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Good morning everybody, and thank you for joining us today, wherever you are,
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if it's morning, afternoon, or evening. Um, thank you for attending today.
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Uh, today, we'll, Dr. Ssim will be,
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we're having presenting our first lecture of the course. Uh,
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the topic is E V V and H p v, head and Neck Cancer. Um,
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just reminders, uh,
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we always encourage you to turn on your cameras and ask questions. Um,
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you can ask a question by raising your hand in the Zoom chat. Um, you can also,
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uh, pose a question in the chat or pose a question directly. Dr. Ssim,
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please wait until he's, um, completed speaking,
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or if you can hold your questions till later in the lecture,
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that would be appreciated. Um, Dr. Em, whenever you're ready.
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Okay, great to see you guys. I'm sure it's, uh, different time zones,
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which is always, uh,
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challenging for us to decide when to present our material. Uh,
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it's currently 6:00 AM where I am, which is in the mountains. I'm, uh,
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out of the mountain time zone just outside of Colorado, uh,
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just outside of Denver in Colorado. I'm in a town called Evergreen,
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and it really is, uh, green all year round with evergreen trees,
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but I'm at about 8,000, uh, feet high, which,
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uh, metric system, I guess that would be around maybe 2300,
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uh, meters high. Um, and it's really beautiful here.
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Um, and I'm very close to,
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some of you may know the resorts like Vail and Aspen.
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That's where I go skiing in the winter time. So I'm looking,
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actually looking forward to the,
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the colder weather and a little bit of snow on the ground.
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Although Colorado's great all year round. Uh,
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it's got great hiking and biking and, uh,
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a lot of stuff you could do in the Colorado River with, uh,
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rafting and kayaking, et cetera. So, uh, a neat location.
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Strange as it may seem, I still work for Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore.
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So I'm one of these remote tele radiologists who reads the cases
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from afar every month.
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I travel from Denver to Baltimore to do weekends on call.
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So that way, um, if there's any procedures that need to be done,
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I I do them in Baltimore and don't have someone have to cover me. So, um,
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good friend of Siresh Mukerji, who, as you know,
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is one of the preeminent head and neck radiologists in the world,
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and he's asked me to help out with the course.
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So I will be doing a little bit of grading and a little bit of talking to you
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about, um, you, the cases in office hours.
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And he's also asked me to talk about a topic that I really enjoy,
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which is the role of H P V and E B V
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in head and neck cancer. So this actually, um,
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some of you who are in the, uh,
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Pacific region are probably more familiar with the role of E B V
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than, than I am as far as it, its role with, uh,
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head and neck cancer and nasal pharyngeal cancer. So, uh,
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jump right in if I'm saying anything wrong and let me know.
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So I'm gonna share my screen at, at this juncture.
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Any quick questions before I go to the PowerPoint?
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All right,
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so I'm gonna pick up my microphone so you'll hear me a little bit better. So,
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how H B V and E B V positive cancers have changed staging and thinking
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about pharyngeal neoplasms?
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So the two viruses that I'm gonna be talking about,
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human papilloma virus and Epstein-Barr virus are
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depicted here in these, uh, graphic descriptions.
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And H P V is a
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virus that has been classically shown to
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cause quite a bit of oropharyngeal cancers,
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particularly around the tonsils and base of tongue.
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And E B V is seen associated with
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nasopharyngeal carcinoma. You see that this is, uh,
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near the eustachian tube and a tumor in the, in the nasal vault.
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We're gonna start with H P V. Um, you know,
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it's been known for a very long time, uh,
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about the impact of H P V for Lary Laryngotracheal
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Papillomatosis in that it caused this benign condition.
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And similarly with E B V,
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people have known about its relationship with Burke's Lymphoma, for example,
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for over six decades. Um,
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H P V has been described
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to cause or be associated with a lot of
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cervical cancers, not cervical with regard to the neck,
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but cervical with regard to the female reproductive system, uh, and the vagina.
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So this is a virus that encodes for six proteins for virus
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replication and two for virus structure.
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It's amazing that something as small as this and as compact
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as this is able to wreak such havoc on the oropharynx and the
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cervical region. So, uh,
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it causes or associated with about 70% of cervical cancer,
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and it may also call cause genital warts.
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So as you look here at the cancer site
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and you look at the percentage probably caused by H P V type,
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you see cervix 91% vulva, 69%.
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So it's been known for a very long time about its impact with regard to the
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cervix. However, over the last three or four decades,
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it's also been shown to
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lead to oropharyngeal cancer. And we'll talk about why that is.
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Here is a little diagram of the genome of the H
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P V virus, and again, very efficient. You know,
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basically just these two capsid pro, pro protein
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genome, pro portions, and then all this for the virus replication.
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If you look at the incidences of,
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or the prevalence of head and neck squamous cell carcinoma,
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you note that oropharyngeal cancer has, if anything,
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been slightly on the rise at the same time that the larynx
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and the floor and gum and other mouth areas have been
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declining the tongue because of the impact of H P V at the base of the tongue
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has actually been increasing. So why are things decreasing?
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They're decreasing as we know more about that risk factor of smoking
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and chewing tobacco such that our youth are engaging in
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it less frequently. They still do, but less frequency. I don't know,
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I don't know the impact of vaping, but, well, we should probably learn that. Um,
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when you look at the impact however of H P V on oropharyngeal
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cancers,
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you see that 70.1% are attributable to any
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type of H P V in the most common one that we're usually doing with is H P V 16,
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second most common, 18 at 60%.
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So it now, as you can see,
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the average annual numbers exceeds that for, uh,
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women's cervical cancer.
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And you see that now, it, it's more,
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it's more men here used to be women.
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And again, here's oropharyngeal cancers, you notice it's number one,
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and the percentage probably caused by any H P V is about 70%.
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Now you still have oropharyngeal cancers caused by alcohol, chewing tobacco,
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beetle nut chewing, squib, and, um, smoking,
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but higher percentage now with H P V.
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So overall worldwide, not just talking about America,
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400,000 cases of oropharyngeal cancer,
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of which 46,000 occur in the us and 60 to 75%, as you saw,
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are H P V related.
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The good news is that those patients who have H P V positive oropharyngeal
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cancer have a better prognosis than those who do not have the
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virus associated with the cancer.
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Those people that have cancers associated with tobacco smoking
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have a worse prognosis than those associated with H P V. Now,
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the demographics and the risk factors of H P V are very interesting,
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and they were largely described by a woman named Carol Fery
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at Johns Hopkins Hospital.
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And in looking at the H P V virus, um,
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she understood that it was very prevalent in the
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cervical and vagina regions of women and obviously caused
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the cancers there.
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And so she looked at the habits of patients who have H P
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V positive oropharyngeal cancer,
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and what she showed was there was a 20 fold increase in the risk
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if that individual was engaging with multiple partners in
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oral sex.
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So her premise was that there was some transmission
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via the vagina and cervical region of the woman to the
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person who was engaging in the oral sex with that person
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leading to the exposure in the oropharynx, um,
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of the patients who develop oropharyngeal cancer.
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And she also looked at, uh, women who were lesbian,
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who engaged in oral,
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in oral sex and also showed that it was a higher risk factor.
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So somehow that activity that one does in sexual,
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uh,
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relations with a partner was leading to the increased risk.
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And, um, and in part that's why you see it more commonly in the men.
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If you look at the prevalence of H P V positive
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cancers versus H P V negative of those who have oropharyngeal cancer,
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you could see that the H P V positives are on the rise at the same time that
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the H P V negatives are declining. Why is it declining?
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Because less people are smoking, at least in America.
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So, uh,
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here you see those numbers again for the oropharynx versus the cervix and those
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associated with H P V 1618.
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This is the H P V 1618 is what we test for.
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So there are some oropharyngeal cancers that are by the other viral types that
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we don't specifically test for. We're usually testing for the 1618 variant.
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What about risks of other location
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cancers associated with H P V exposure?
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Why is it specific to the oropharynx?
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And some people say it has to do with the lymphoid tissue associated with the
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palatine tonsil that it collects there. However,
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we are seeing ever increasing, um,
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exposures and associations of other areas of the head and neck
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with H P V positivity. So oral cavity,
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squamous cell carcinomas, you know,
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the oral cavity includes the oral tongue and the retromolar trigone
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and the areas around the teeth and the alveolis, for example.
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Those areas of the oral cavity are associated with 23.5%
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H P V positive laryngeal cancers, 24% hypopharynx,
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much less so in all,
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they all show a better prognosis when it's H P V positive
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associated cancer than with H P V negative.
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So, um, this is just showing, um,
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the laryngeal cancer rates, uh, uh, associated with H P V,
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uh, D N A positive versus negative.
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And you could see that things do change over the course of time
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towards a greater risk factor,
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increasing rate from 16.5% to 28.1% in
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this five year period. This is a while ago, and this has continued to increase.
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So I mentioned that the H P V positive cancers have a much better prognosis than
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those, which with the H P V negative,
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that led to a revision to the American Joint Commission
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on Cancer, the A J C C staging manual for
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oropharyngeal cancer.
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They separated those that were H P V positive from those that were H
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P V negative oropharyngeal cancer.
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So a separate table if it's H P V positive versus H P V negative.
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What they found was even those that were T four cancers did
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well if they were H P V positive.
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So I mentioned that H P V positive is not exactly the same as
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what we test for, which is that P 16 and P 18 variants.
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But suffice it to say it is a good marker for H P V
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positivity.
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Remember that there are other subtypes of H P V positive and
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also remember that this is not specifically testing for the
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virus, it's testing for a particle a P 16 particle.
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So here is the T staging of oropharyngeal cancer.
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That used to be what was listed
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under oropharyngeal cancer globally.
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Now this only relates to those that are H P V negative and it
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lists the T staging by the size less than two centimeters,
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two to four centimeters greater than four centimeters, T four,
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a invasion of larynx or the deep muscles of the tongue, oid, et cetera.
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T four B advanced cancer goes into the masticator space musculature,
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OID plate, skull base carotid artery.
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The T staging of H B V associated P 16 positive oropharyngeal cancer
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you note does not separate T four A and T four B.
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It used to be that T four B was basically unresectable incurable disease.
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Now it is no longer separated as such
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and they're all lumped under T four because with chemotherapy and radiation you
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can eradicate this cancer.
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So let's look at this. This patient is H P V negative.
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There is a cancer at the tongue base, which is extending into the ula.
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This is the edge of the epiglottis. So a decent sized cancer.
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We would measure this, see whether it's two, two to four sore.
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As far as the T staging,
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unfortunately there is a necrotic lymph node here. This,
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the lymph node is in an H P V negative cancer. However,
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it has been shown that cystic lymphadenopathy is a
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characteristic of H P V positive cancers.
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It can happen in H P V negative,
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but more commonly when you have a cystic or necrotic lymph node like this,
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it's gonna be H P V positive. Here's another cancer,
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again, base of tongue cancer. It's sort of triangular shape.
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It's less than two centimeters, it's a T one cancer. However,
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you notice that the patient does have a,
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an enlarged lymph node on the right side as well.
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Another cancer, this one in the palatine tonsil on the right side.
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This is a T two weighted MR scan. Um,
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MR is very good for identifying oropharyngeal cancers as high in single
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intensity, generally on the T two A sequences.
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And usually it does show contrast enhancement.
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Here's a patient with a tonsor cancer.
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It was growing into the base of the tongue via the gloss tonsor sulcus.
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So glosso tongue tonsil palatine tonsil
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sulcus, that sulcus that joins the two.
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And you can see here that at the base of the tongue,
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this actually crossed the midline from the, uh,
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palatine tonsil.
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You also note that the patient has on this PET scan positive lymphadenopathy
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on the left side. So
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we use, um, PET scan quite frequently,
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both for the initial evaluation as well as follow-up after treatment
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of oropharyngeal cancer because it does light up very nicely,
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whether it be H P V negative or positive.
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We at Johns Hopkins do employ diffusion weighted imaging as part of our
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protocol for M R I of head and neck cancer.
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I can tell you that sometimes it's helpful.
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Sometimes you just get so much artifact that it,
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it is blows away. Um, can you please, uh,
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everyone please kind of mute themselves 'cause we're getting a little background
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noise. Thank you. Um, so here for example,
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is a patient who has enlargement of the left palatine tonsil.
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It does look like it's entering the, uh, base of the tongue.
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This is an A D C map from the diffusion weight scan.
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You can see it's dark in signal intensity.
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And that would argue that this is not just lymphoid hyperplasia,
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which can occur in the tonsor region,
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but is indeed a cancer.
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So here's another example of a patient with a, um,
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molecular cancer. This is the epiglottis.
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This is the area of the epi of the Mula.
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This is the D W I image showing the high signal intensity in D w.
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I remember that when you do the A D C maps,
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you expect this to be dark in signal intensity.
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And as I mentioned, after treatment,
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we are using the PET scan with a combined contrast enhanced
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CT scan to better assess the results of the treatment usually in the
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oropharynx, particularly with H P V positive, that's radiation and chemotherapy.
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So, um,
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with regard to H P V positive versus H P V negative head and neck squamous cell
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ca cancers,
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there are no imaging features that will consistently predict H P V status.
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I just completed a radio radios, um,
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review of the literature to look at the features
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of
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H P V positive versus H P V negative oropharyngeal cancer.
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And the radios accuracy was about 74%
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at predicting H P V positive cancers as opposed to H P V
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negative cancer. And, um, in general,
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they were smaller cancers and more homogeneous cancers.
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So smaller primaries, cystic nodal metastases,
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that will get you about 74% accuracy. Uh,
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I expect that with time and artificial intelligence improvements,
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this accuracy will increase.
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Right now we have immunohistochemistry to pretty easily identify that P 16
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P 18 virus particle,
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but it may be a time where we will do the M R I or a
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CT scan and be able to predict the H P V status as
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AI methodology and machine learning improves.
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What about T four cancer? So again, T four a,
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T four B for the H B V negative, if you have involvement as you do here,
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this is an a palatine tonsil cancer on the right side.
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And you see that you've lost the border between the cancer and the
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OID muscle, and it's showing some enhancement right along those fibers of the
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OID muscle compared to the contralateral side where it's nice sharp border.
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This involvement of the medial OID muscle is
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a T four A characteristic. If it goes into the, uh,
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lateral OID or the OID plates, it's uh,
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it's considered T four B
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extrinsic tongue muscle involvement is another feature of oropharyngeal cancer
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that may lead to a T four cancer. Now remember,
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this is H P V positive base of tongue cancer.
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Remember with the H P V positive, we don't separate T four A from T four B. Um,
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the extrinsic tongue muscles are the geno gloss muscle,
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the hi glossy stylos muscle and the pallo
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muscle. So if you have the geno gloss muscle,
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this is the right geno gloss muscle. This is the left geno gloss muscle.
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You see, this cancer is infiltrating this muscle and widening it.
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That is considered extrinsic tongue muscle involvement and therefore T four
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cancer. Here we have the involvement of the
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hi gloss muscle.
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So the stylo gloss muscle comes from the styloid process and then
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inserts on the tongue.
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The hi gloss muscle is that extension of that same muscle from the tongue to the
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hyoid bone. So at this level,
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we're at hilos and the infiltrating enhancing
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tumor that you see here has entered the, uh,
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hi gloss muscle. This is the contralateral hilos muscle.
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This is the mylohyoid muscle over here.
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And in between right through here is your sublingual space
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or your floor of the mouth. So this muscle, again,
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mylohyoid muscle stylo, uh, hilos muscle,
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genio gloss muscle, intrinsic muscle of the tongue, uh, seen here,
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here on the other side, mylohyoid muscle hilos,
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muscle genio, gloss muscle
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hilos mylohyoid.
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So depending upon whether it's H P V positive or H P V negative, this may be,
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um, characterized as T four or T four a,
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T four B. I mentioned about the cystic nodal metastases, as I, as I said,
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that is a characteristic of H P V positive or oropharyngeal cancer,
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but may also occur in H P V negative. Here's one that was cystic nodal mass.
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This one ended up being a bronchial cleft cyst.
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This one, a malignant cystic necrotic lymph node.
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So that's our differential diagnosis.
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We had a neck radiologist now are very wary about calling things
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brachial cuff cyst, um,
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because of the prevalence of cystic nodal metastases associated with
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H P V positive cancer.
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So if I see something that looks like a pure cyst in the neck in this location,
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I pay a lot of attention to the palatine tonsil in the base of the tongue and
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the molecular region to see whether there's anything that could possibly be a
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primary tumor. And then if there's any nodularity to this rim,
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like you see here,
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I would say most likely a broncho cuff cyst cannot exclude a cystic nodal
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metastasis from an H V V positive cancer recommend aspiration cytology.
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That's fair. Okay,
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so as I mentioned, the good news is that H P V positive cancers,
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although they're much more common now and are increasing in frequency,
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they have a much better prognosis.
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Even if there's positive margins after surgery,
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radiation therapy and chemotherapy seems to wipe this cancer out pretty readily.
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And even if you have positive lymphadenopathy, you can still effect a,
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a cure. So here is the good news.
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This is the disease-free survival and overall survival.
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And you see that with H P V positive cancer. This is 0.8,
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this is 0.6, this is 0.4, you're at above 0.8.
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With H P V negative cancer,
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you're somewhere between 0.4 and 0.6 over the course of 60 months.
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So this is a five year survival.
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This is five year overall survival here at 0.4
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for H P V negative,
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but still above the 0.8 for H P V positive.
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And if you look at the treatment that's been going on over the course of time,
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oh, excuse me,
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um, what you see is the green arrow, which is chemoradiation therapy.
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Now is the predominant way that we treat
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H P V positive oropharyngeal cancers.
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Another table showing that benefit of H P V
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positivity.
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Another area where we have seen an
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impact of H P V positivity is in the cases of
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carcinoma of unknown primary.
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These are patients that have discovered a lymph node in their neck
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and the E n T doc does an a full endoscopy and finds
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nothing.
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We do a CT or an M R I scan and don't find anything except for the big lymph
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node. So they aspirate the lymph node and they find H P V positive,
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uh, cells.
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So that will lead to a bilateral or ipsilateral,
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uh, tonsillectomy with the assumption that it's a microscopic primary tumor.
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So quite often now,
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the unknown primaries are H P V positive and there's an assumption that it's
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from the head and neck region and consular region or base of tongue.
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And those patients will, uh,
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either get the tonsillectomy for removal of the cancer or the chemoradiation
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protocol.
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Some unknown primaries are E B V positive and we'll talk about that because the
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nasopharynx is another area where you can have occult primary tumors.
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The nodal staging is also different depending upon whether it's
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H P V positive or negative.
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The nodal staging in the eighth edition of the A J C C incorporated
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extra nodal extension, that's what e n E is.
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And once you have extra nodal extension,
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it bumps up the t staging into the N three category.
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Um, or if it's a single lymph node that's e and e positive,
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sometimes that will bump it into the N two category. So,
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um,
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any lymph uh, lymph node, a single lymph node, um,
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less than three centimeters will uh,
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get bumped up to e N E negative E E n E positive and, uh,
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will increase the, uh, end staging.
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Now on the, uh, the extra nodal extension,
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this is specified to be pathologic e n e,
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not radiologic, e n e.
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And the reason for that is because we actually are relatively insensitive
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to the presence of extra nodal extension, although, um,
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we are good at when it's grossly like this,
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when it's microscopic disease, which is the majority of cases,
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it's pathologically positive, but imaging negative.
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So as you can see, uh, CT evaluation for this, uh,
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for sensitivity was only 43.7% for all comers.
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If you look at grade four,
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where clearly the lymph node has been exploded with cancer,
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then we get up to a sensitivity of 74%.
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But even that is relatively low.
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So, you know, when we look at our cancers,
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if we see this fuzzy margin around this necrotic lymph node or, or you know,
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extension into the sternal cardio mastoid muscle,
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we're gonna call extra nodal extension on our imaging,
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even though the staging requires it to be by pathology. Of course,
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what happens a lot of times is that the patients don't get that lymph node
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dissection or, or uh, um,
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resection and therefore they never know that it's e n E positive,
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but they go with the radiologic impression.
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So here's one that's clearly infiltrating into the skin surface and around the
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carotid artery.
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The end staging of H P V positive oropharyngeal cancer just looks at
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one or more ipsilateral nodes less than six centimeters.
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It doesn't even separate them into the less than three, three to six.
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It just separates them based on six centimeters in size because even a five
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centimeter lymph node will melt under the impact of radiation
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therapy and chemotherapy with H P V positive cancer.
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So a different nodal staging based on six centimeters or
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less or greater than six centimeters at M three
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doesn't even list the extra nodal extension.
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Why even extra nodal extension can be sweeped swept clean with
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treatment for H P V positive cancer. Okay,
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so we've exhausted H P V positive cancer in our first half hour.
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We're now ready to move to the Epstein Bar virus.
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So maybe I should stop and see whether there are any questions about H P V
31:12
positive cancers and oropharyngeal cancer
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questions out there. All right, hearing none,
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I will shift gears and go to the nasopharynx and EP Epstein bar virus.
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So Epstein Bar virus, uh, also is a relatively simple virus,
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and yet it has huge impact in the head and neck.
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You can see you have your late latent membrane proteins and your nuclear ones
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that are going to enter the cell and lead to the replication of
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the virus. And here's some depiction of that virus.
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So we start our story about Epstein Barr virus in 1964
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with Tony Epstein and Yvonne Barr,
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who were the first to grow lymph human lymphocytes in culture.
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And this was from a Burkitt lymphoma.
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So remember that E B V is associated not just with nasal pharyngeal carcinoma,
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but with many types of lymphoma.
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And burki lymphoma was the first one that was described in 1964.
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So we are now 60 years later. Wow.
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If you look at E B V positivity, this is not in cancer,
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but just routine, you know, exposure in your life.
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You notice that in many situ
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countries and locations,
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the positive E B V titers are very high.
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This E B V is the,
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is the virus that's associated with mononucleosis,
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which is a viral illness that is associated with lymphadenopathy and fatigue,
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et cetera. Um, many,
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many of our college age kids get this once they're exposed in
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college and they have mono mononucleosis. So this is Pennsylvania.
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You could see the number here by age, you know,
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16 or 18 when they enter college, they're already exposed at 80%.
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Look at it here. This is Greenland.
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And if you of Greenland, you'll see a lot of E B V.
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And here we have Uganda and Denmark. Wow.
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So high rates of basic exposure from the very beginning, early in life.
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So the E B V lifecycle, you know, as as they typically do, they enter the virus,
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they start to replicate, they deal,
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they interfere with the T cells and therefore shed additional
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viruses late, um,
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in the B cells and then out it comes in either infection
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or if it infiltrates into the genome of the nasopharyngeal cells.
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Cancer
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E B V has been associated with so many illnesses. Oh my god,
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we talked about, you know, mono,
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but look at all the lymphomas that have higher rates of E B V exposure,
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pt, post-transplant, lymphoproliferative disorder, P T L D,
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all these other cancers of which we're gonna be talking about nasopharyngeal
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carcinoma, but thyroid as well, salivary gland, et cetera.
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When we look at the W H O characterization of nasal
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pharyngeal carcinoma,
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it's described as keratinizing squamous cell type, which is type one.
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And then the non keratinizing squamous cell carcinomas are separated into those
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that are differentiated Type two and undifferentiated type three
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types two and three are the ones that are predominantly E B V positive type
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one, not as much,
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but the risk factors for nasopharyngeal carcinoma, um,
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include Southeast Asian ancestry as well
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as alcohol, less so the smoking exposure.
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Now we said that H P V positive cancers had a better prognosis.
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Is it the same with regard to E B V
35:27
positive cancer?
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And what you see here is that those that are E B V positive have
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a higher rate of distant metastases and a
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lower rate of disease-free survival and a lower rate of overall survival.
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So as opposed to H P V,
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which in imparts a beneficial effect,
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those cancers that are E B V positive do worse. And they,
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as you saw, were usually those un uh, different, uh,
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non keratinized undifferentiated cancer type. Um, lemme go back
36:05
the non keratinizing ones,
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which include the differentiated and undifferentiated ones.
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So type two and type three, and they generally have a worse prognosis.
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The t staging of pharyngeal carcinoma requires you to understand the
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adjacent tissue. So T one is confined to the nasal pharynx,
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no para pharyngeal space extension T two extension
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to the para pharyngeal space.
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I will tell you that almost all nasal pharyngeal cancers when by the time we
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detect them, have gotten into the paranal space.
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Medial or lateral OID involvement, prevertebral muscular involvement.
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So that's T two T three into the bone
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spread to the sinuses.
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And then T four intracranial extensional on the cranial nerves.
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Remember that nasopharyngeal carcinoma has a quick exit out the nasal pharynx
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into all the areas of the tego palatine fossa and the second
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division of fifth cranial nerve foramina,
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including frame and rotundo, the Vian canal and et cetera,
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tega maxillary fissure. And once it gets into the cranial nerves,
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it's considered T four cancer.
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Now you notice that there is not T four A and T four B here. Why is that?
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Once again,
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this is a cancer that can be cured with chemo and radiation treatment,
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even though it is spread far afield, even intracranial.
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So here's a T one nasopharyngeal cancer.
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You look here and you see that there is asymmetric
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appearance to the FOSS of romule where it's showing contrast enhancement.
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You see that normally we have these little fat planes between the muscles here.
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These are the tens and levator valley palatini muscles. You notice that those,
37:58
that that bright signal between the musculature is missing here and then it
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shows enhancement. This is a T one cancer.
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It may also involve the fingal bas fascia over here.
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Then that, um,
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also is a means of spread to the base of the skull.
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Here's another one. This is T two cancer. Why is it T two? Well,
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here's the left sided cancer,
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but you see that you have asymmetric enhancement here of the longest
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coline musculature complex.
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So this is the normal appearance post contrast.
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Here you have this muscle that's infiltrated the prevertebral muscular
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involvement imparts a T two cancer. Um,
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right here this is still muscle, if it was skull base,
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it would shift it to T three cancer. Oh,
38:57
I'm sorry. So this one is a different cancer.
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And you see that it's infiltrating the paranal space
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and extending, um,
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here at the skull base. Here's another one.
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This is a cancer over here in the romule.
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Or you note that the patient has a retro pharyngeal lymph node associated with
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the primary tumor.
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So sometimes these are pretty subtle and they are even harder to detect via
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endoscopy because the up here at the nasal vault and nasal pharyngeal vault,
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it's, it's,
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there's a lot of lymphoid tissue and the cancers are sometimes obscured by the
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lymphoid tissue. So that endoscopy, it's negative. And this is again,
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one of the sources of carcinoma of unknown primary,
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maybe in the nasal pharynx. Most of them occur in the palatine tonsil skull, uh,
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tongue-based region.
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But the nasopharynx is the next most common of the sites for a primary tumor.
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Sometimes we have a carcinoma of unknown primary and we never know where the
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primary tumor came from. It's just too microscopic.
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Let's look at this case. So this is a nice case.
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You notice that there is blunting of the phospho romule.
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You have infiltration of the para pharyngeal fat on the right side.
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You notice that there is tissue here that is going along the retro antral
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region, nice and clean on the normal side.
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And you see that this turid musculature looks a little
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funky. The OID plate here is involved. Here's the OID plate.
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It looks like it's kind of eroded as opposed to this normal OID plate.
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So we are now, um,
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dealing with something that is into the OID musculature.
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And if we, uh, look for cranial nerve involvement,
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well we're kind of very concerned about it since the OID plate is
40:58
involved. And the tego palatine fossa is right here,
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should be fat containing. And here we have soft tissue.
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So if we look at the next, um, slide,
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we see the infiltration here of the tego palatine fossa.
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There's likely seno palatine foramen involvement right here.
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This is the normal seno palatine foramen.
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We know that we've got tissue going on the retro antral region.
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We've got the involvement of the, uh, medial tego muscle.
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We probably are going to have involvement of the lateral oid muscle,
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which we'll see in just a moment.
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And we have extension into the nasal cavity.
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This is the same patient post gadd coronal and higher.
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Up here we have involvement of the inferior orbital fissure.
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Here's the normal inferior orbital fissure with fat.
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Here we have involvement of the foramen rotund. We follow this.
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This is mecca's cave. Is there too much tissue here?
41:56
Here is the coronal scan. It's showing involvement of
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the medial terra goin muscle, which is here.
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The lateral terra goin muscle shows involvement right here
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compared to here. And where's it coming from? It's coming from frame. And val.
42:16
So this tumor from the nasopharynx has gained access to the
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intracranial compartment through frame and val remember frame.
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And val is the egress of the third division of the fifth cranial nerve.
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Here's meccas cave.
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It looks different than the caval in the contralateral side with contrast
42:34
enhancing tissue. So by virtue of this,
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we've got lateral OID involvement. We have involvement of the cranial nerves.
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We have intracranial extension. This is T four nasopharyngeal carcinoma.
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Curable, still curable.
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Oh my goodness, look at this one.
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So here we have lateral OID mediater,
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both of which are infiltrated here.
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We have the world's largest frame in val compared to the normal frame in
43:05
val, clearly intracranial extension to the cavernous sinus.
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And this is your T four cancer.
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If it gets into the orbit via that inferior orbital fissure that I showed
43:20
previously, this inferior orbital fissure getting into the orbit,
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that's another reason to call it T four cancer. So
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E B V and squamous cell carcinoma.
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So we talked about its impact in nasopharynx and we also saw that there were
43:36
some hypo parental cancers and gastric cancers. Um,
43:40
it is increased in oral cavity. Can cancer, um,
43:43
particularly those individuals who have the risk factors of beetle quid chewing.
43:48
So there's a higher proportion,
43:50
proportion of oral cavity cancer in those patients who have beetle quid chewing
43:55
that is associated with E B V.
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Um, nodal staging for nasal pharyngeal carcinoma is listed here. Uh,
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n one retropharyngeal lymph nodes and unilateral ones or six centimeters or less
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above the cricoid. And two bilateral lymph nodes,
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less than six centimeters above the cricoid. And three,
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if they're greater than six centimeters or below the cricoid.
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And remember that nasopharyngeal carcinoma is a little bit, um,
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perplexing in that it is a cancer that seems to have a
44:31
high rate of supraclavicular lower neck lymph nodes.
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There's some spread in that it seems to jump sometimes.
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Some of the jugular lymph nodes, you know, level three and level four.
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And yet you have these supraclavicular lower level four, uh, lymph nodes.
44:51
Here's a nice, um, medial, um,
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retro pharyngeal lymph node, um,
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nodes of ruber and um, this case unilateral.
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So N one,
45:06
here's one that had multiple lymph nodes in the cerv vicular fossa here
45:12
that was associated with nasopharyngeal carcinoma. A curiosity,
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we do follow nasopharyngeal carcinoma with PET scanning
45:25
with the treatment.
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So many of these patients who receive chemoradiation therapy,
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um,
45:33
they are followed with PET ct or in some cases PET mr.
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And you can see the tumor shrink over time.
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And in this case, combined with the ct,
45:45
you can see where the localization of that is and also evaluate the
45:50
nodal metastases. And, uh, this is a, this is again,
45:55
pretty routine in America at least.
46:00
Now I mentioned that E B V is also associated with lymphoma.
46:04
So sometimes when you have oropharyngeal masses because of
46:09
the lymphoid tissue at the base of the tongue,
46:12
the lingo tonsor tissue as well as the palatine tonsor tissue,
46:17
you may have lymphomas in these locations that simulate squamous cell carcinoma.
46:23
Far and away squamous cell carcinoma is much more common than lymphomas,
46:27
but lymphomas do occur in the nasal pharynx and they
46:32
are difficult to distinguish from the presence of squamous cell carcinoma.
46:37
And they may also be infiltrative. Here you see my fino valley once again,
46:42
Fino Valley,
46:42
bilateral involvement of Fov Valley as well as infiltration of the
46:47
Kern sinus bilaterally. This tumor may be E B V positive as well.
46:56
Look, if you had a bacterial infection, I could prescribe something,
47:00
but that's clearly a virus.
47:03
I just can't help you virus retrovirus.
47:07
So I hope that this, um, let me, uh, stop sharing.
47:13
I hope that this, uh, discussion about these two sites of cancer,
47:19
oropharyngeal cancer and nasopharyngeal cancer has been elucidating
47:24
for you with regard to the staging and,
47:27
and also the impact of two viruses,
47:31
H P V for oropharyngeal cancer and E B V for nasal pharyngeal cancer.
47:36
And those, the impact that it has on the cancer itself.
47:41
Remember, H P V generally a good thing to have.
47:44
E B V unfortunately is associated with a worse prognosis.
47:50
Both of them are prevalent in society
47:55
across the world and have led to increases in
48:00
these specific types of cancers.
48:03
Questions from the audience?
48:09
Let me see whether there's any chat questions.
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I'm seeing nothing and, uh,
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q and a I don't see any questions to answer with that. Oops, what'd I do?
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Let me get my, uh, zoom back up here. Alright,
48:23
so not having heard anything,
48:25
we'll take a quick opportunity to hear where you are from
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and a little bit about, um, how it is that you're taking the course.
48:35
So, Philippe, are you still on? Is it Phillip or Philippe?
48:41
Uh, I can't hear you. Uh, I think you have to. Everyone unmute.
48:43
And if you have your cameras available and you're not, uh, in bed closed, go,
48:48
go ahead and open the camera. Philippe, uh, you, uh, where are you from? And,
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Uh, how are you? Uh, I, I, I am from the Philippines. Uh, I already, yeah,
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I already took the neuro case. Yes, I
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Remember you. Yeah. Yeah.
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And then I'm now taking this, uh, also I also took the stroke.
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Oh, good, good.
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Uh, online voice.
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All right, so you're a regular.
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Great.
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Thank you. Thank you for your money. Okay, Andrea, you're next.
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Uh, hello. Hi, uh, I'm from Hungary and I'm radiology resident.
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Actually, I'm on call right now, but we call during the lecture,
49:31
so it was nice. Uh, so I would like to improve a little bit in head and neck.
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I never really reported head and neck before. Uh,
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and as an attending I would like to prepare for attending life and just
49:43
In case. Yeah,
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head and neck is the area that even is imposing for neuroradiologist.
49:48
Everyone's worried about the head and neck, so hopefully, uh,
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you're gonna learn a lot of anatomy and pathology and feel really comfortable
49:54
after the course. Good luck with, thank you, Andrea. Nice to meet you.
49:58
Nice to you. I'm gonna pronounce it Ganga. Chowdry, where are you from?
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Hi. Um, I'm basically from Pakistan, but I'm based in Ireland.
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Okay. And, um, this is my first time taking the course and um,
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I'm just preparing to get back to work.
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I've been on a career big for several years.
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Okay, good to have you back. Mark Holland.
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Are you with us, mark?
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Yeah. Hi there. Um, so I'm in Australia at the moment in Perth,
50:29
start getting ready for bed. Um, I love head and neck.
50:33
I've done it for a long time.
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I love seeing all the fun cases and watch how the, um,
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these goes along the nerves.
50:43
Very good. Very good.
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I do a lot of general radiology, so it's nice just to keep in touch with e t.
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Right, right. Very good. Well,
50:51
I think you're going to enjoy the course and eSSH is a wonderful teacher,
50:55
so Great, great. Sudir, Sudir,
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PA pa are you with us? If you are on mute.
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All right. Sudir might be virtually with us. Gory bock.
51:15
Gory, where are you from? Hello. Yes, I hear you. Uh,
51:18
Uh, hi sir. I'm from, I'm from Mumbai,
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India and I'm a senior resident at Tata Memorial Hospital. Uh,
51:26
I really like Radi and being from a tertiary onpro
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center, we have come across lot of cancer cases in my period of residency.
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So I'm hoping that from this course I would be able to gain confidence in
51:41
other radiology that we usually did not get to see during a residency.
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And yeah, hoping to pursue any radiology future as well. Thank you.
51:50
Thank you. Well, good to, good to meet you. Um, I've, uh,
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been to India five times, including Mumbai, and enjoyed that very much.
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Thank you for your attendance. And, uh, finally Han
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Um, hi David. Um, I'm also from Australia, um, the East Coast, Sydney.
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Um, I'm not a neuroradiologist. I'm a, I'm more of a body radiologist,
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but I do find head and neck cases interesting. And I do them from time to time.
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Yeah, I enjoyed this course. Thank you. Yeah,
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Very good. Well, I think, uh, everyone's gonna be much,
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much more comfortable with head and neck radiology by the end of the course,
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and I think you're going enjoy it quite a bit. So good luck and, uh, you'll be,
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uh, hearing Dr. Yes,
52:30
Dr.
52:31
I'm, I'm so sorry to inter, inter reflect, um,
52:34
we do have one question in the chat.
52:36
Oh, okay. Right. Gory. Thank you.
52:39
Is there any difference in management in cases of carcinoma of unknown primary,
52:43
which present with nodal metastases and are H P V negative? So,
52:48
um, in general, what happens,
52:52
at least in at Hopkins is they will get an a ipsilateral nodal
52:57
dissection and an ipsilateral tonsillectomy at the same
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time with a presumption that it's a tons primary
53:07
tumor. Um, fortunately, um,
53:12
these patients often will get PET scans and sometimes we will identify the
53:16
primary tumor on a PET scan that might redirect them
53:21
to, for example, the nasopharynx or another location.
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The PET scan may also include the chest, and sometimes we do find that the,
53:30
uh, the primary tumors are in the lungs, the upper lung fields,
53:34
or even in the esophagus.
53:36
So that's generally how it's approached here at Hopkins.
53:41
And, um, if it's H P V positive, they're less likely to,
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uh, pursue the things in the chest or the, uh, esophagus. If it's, you know,
53:51
like a, uh, a, a a non-active lung nodule,
53:56
they may just follow that nodule, assuming that's a benign granulomatous thing.
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So, uh, H P V positive, they're,
54:02
they're going to assume it's a head and neck primary. Hope that's,
54:07
that's helpful. All right, y'all,
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well have a good evening as the, oh, Sader, you have a question?
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Y Yes. Hi. Sorry, I was trying to figure out the mic earlier. Oh, okay.
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I wanted to introduce, uh, Sadir from Chicago, uh, the, uh,
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advantage of taking your, uh, brain and spine course previously. Excellent. And,
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uh, taking the head and neck to see if I can start reading those as well.
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Excellent. Well, I'm sure you'll thank you. Alright, very good. Alright,
54:33
well with that, I'll uh, sign off to Courtney unless you have, uh,
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any comments Courtney for, or instructions for them for the coming up week?
54:43
Uh, no, not at this time. Thank you. Just a reminder that, um,
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cases are going to be due, um, on Tuesday,
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September 20th by 11:59 PM Eastern Time.
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And thank you for everyone that did attend.
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This recording will be made available on demand and will be posted to the course
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website and emailed directly to you. So if you have any additional questions,
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you know how to contact me. Um, and thank you again for attending. Thank you,
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Dr. Sso and everyone. Have a good day.