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RAMP Lesion with PCL Tear

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First case is a 17-year-old

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with twisting injury while playing football.

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So scrolling from medial to lateral, we can see the, uh,

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MCL, the tibial collateral ligament here.

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There's a lot of edema when we get to the, here's the body

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of the medial meniscus.

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When you, when you get to the posterior horn, you see

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that there's, uh,

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this high signal surrounding this posterior horn.

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So this is a, a ramp lesion.

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The, there's no distinc, um, meniscal capsular

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or meniscal tibial ligaments.

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And there's also, uh, bone marrow edema here.

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And we can see that the, uh, PCL has increased signal,

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uh, in the substance of it.

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There's, uh, definitely intact fibers that remain,

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but there's a moderate grade tear of this PCL, uh, in,

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in the, um, in the substance.

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The ACL is completely torn.

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And when we get to the lateral, um, meniscus, you can see

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that, um, he actually has a, uh, ligament of Humphrey,

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but the, there, there's, um,

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high signal within the posterior horn of

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that lateral meniscus that extends way too

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far, uh, laterally.

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And so, uh, this is a berg grip or berg grip.

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And, uh, one way to look at this is to count the number

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of slices, uh, lateral to the, uh, PCL, um, footprint.

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So this would be the first slice

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that you don't see that PCL in.

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And you see 2, 3, 4,

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and five, I mean, uh, once you hit the four, uh, um, slices.

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And that's, uh, pretty diagnostic of a, a berg grip.

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And in this case, um, this thing extends, um, quite a, uh,

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a distance away from the PCL.

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So that's, this is, um, a definite, uh, tear, um,

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of the posterior horn.

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And you can see a double notch this very deep, uh,

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osteochondral impaction, uh,

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it's at least a couple millimeters that depressed posterior

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to the true lateral condyle patella sulcus.

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And as we keep going laterally, uh,

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there's also a posterolateral corner injury,

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uh, which we're not gonna focus too much on.

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But whenever you're, you're seeing on this extensive multi

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ligamentous injury,

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you really should be checking the neurovascular structures.

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Um, I, I had thought that the perineal nerve was a little

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bit bright, um, near this fibular head,

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but, uh, according to the clinical notes, she was not, uh,

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or he was neurovascularly intact.

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And something I wanted to highlight here was

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that these were the radiographs four days

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before the MRI.

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And so this is a case of a knee dislocation, uh,

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when you get bi cruciate injuries.

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And certainly as you start to get, uh, other, uh, liga uh,

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ligamentous injuries, you really should, uh, uh,

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entertain the possibility of a prior dislocation

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That has been reduced.

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Um, and, and you can see that this, uh,

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this radiograph was taken in a dislocated position.

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So this patient went for arthroscopy,

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and the arthroscopy was four weeks, uh,

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after the, it was four to five weeks after the injury.

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And this is the intracon or notch.

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Um, given that there's a, uh, length of time

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after the injury, you can see

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that there's a lot of synovitis.

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Um, this was, um, an empty, uh, empty wall here

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that's consistent with the ACL tear.

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The PCL, uh, looked okay, um,

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after they, uh, debrided through all that, uh, synovitis,

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and this is

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the posterior horn of lateral meniscus.

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This, uh, probe is, um,

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dropping in through the top and the bottom.

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Um, and that, uh, connects up to the, um, uh,

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ligament of, uh, berg.

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So that's the Ryberg grip.

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And this was that deep, um,

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that, that osteochondral impaction.

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And what, uh, this thing was about a centimeter in diameter.

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It corresponds very nicely to the MRI.

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And there was, uh, a big blood clot that had actually,

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uh, formed and it filled in, uh,

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and was remodeling by this time it was,

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it was remodeling into fiber cartilage.

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And so it's similar, uh, to what you would, uh, hope to see

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with, um, marrow stimulation.

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But, uh, that, that was a nice, um, uh,

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arthroscopic correlate.

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And at the notch, um, they had debris it

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through the synovitis, and you can see

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that this is just the remnants stump of the, of the ACL.

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And they did a reconstruction.

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And for the lateral meniscus, uh, they, they repaired that

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There was a question in the chat about the wrist or grip.

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So I'll just spend a little bit, bit of time on it.

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Um, it happens, obviously, uh,

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when you get anterior subluxation of the tibia

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and with the fixed meniscal femoral ligament, it, it unzips

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and causes this tearing, uh, right along the, uh, plane of,

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um, uh, of the berg ligament.

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And, uh, if you count the number of images lateral

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to the PCL with the first image,

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where you don't see the PCL labeled one, um,

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four images is pretty specific.

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Um, or you can make some measurements.

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Um, but generally you can see irregularity of the, uh,

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of those margins where there's that vertical cleft.

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And if it's irregular, then it's gonna be a tear.

Report

Faculty

Donald Resnick, MD

Professor Emeritus, Department of Radiology

University of California, San Diego

Mini N. Pathria, MD, FRCP(C)

Division Chief, Musculoskeletal Imaging

University of California San Diego

Eric Y. Chang, MD

Adjunct Professor, Radiology

University of California, San Diego

Brady K. Huang, MD

Clinical Professor of Radiology

UC San Diego Medical Center

Tags

Musculoskeletal (MSK)

MRI

Knee