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So we can draw a few conclusions from all of this.
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Most errors that we make
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as radiologists are perceptual errors,
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simply not seeing something.
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Although we might actually see it later, we
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can often see it in retrospect.
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The other errors radiologists make are often related
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to cognitive biases and mental shortcuts or heuristics.
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Very few errors are because of gaps in knowledge.
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And I think that maybe because we're all so well-trained
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and it, it could be that we worry about, um, making sure
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that we have all the knowledge that we
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need before we come to work.
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Um, and it worked.
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You know, maybe if we didn't do CME,
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we'd make even more errors, but it's a very,
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very tiny fraction of the errors we make are due to that.
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Um, sustained vigilance.
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You know, staying in front
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of a screen just looking at this stuff, uh, all day long.
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It may be limited by our biology,
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and maybe this is a feature and not a bug.
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I mean, we didn't evolve to practice radiology.
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We, we evolved really fundamentally
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to appreciate the music of the Beatles.
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One more thing, you know, some error may be due to
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what we call microsleep events.
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These are very short duration, um, less than a second.
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They can last up to 30 seconds. They're detectable by EEG.
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And, uh, it's possible that, um, you know,
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that might be at times when the lights are on
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and, and nobody's home.
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In our own laboratory, we've done, uh, quite a bit
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of research looking at, um, sort of, uh, uh, interplay
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between different networks, uh, uh, a higher brain function,
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you know, the default mode network, the parietal, uh,
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network, uh, salience network,
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and how those can interact to create a situation where, uh,
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you're looking but not seeing.
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And we actually have found, uh,
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that there is an increased risk
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of error under certain mental conditions,
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which are generally not detectable, um, you know,
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without specialized equipment.
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Some suggested reading, uh,
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there's a great book called Being Wrong by Katherine Scholz,
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where she talks about how, um, when you're wrong,
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it feels just exactly the same as when you're right.
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And so, uh, you, you can't necessarily know,
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like I know I'm right 'cause it feels right.
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Um, great book called Why We Make Mistakes, which is about
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how we tend to self justify, uh, another book.
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Along that same line, mistakes were made, but not by me.
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Um, this is a terrific book.
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How Not To Be Wrong by the Mathematic
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mathematician, Jordan Ellison.
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This, actually, this is probably the most fun book you'll
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ever read by a mathematician.
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Um, and, uh, thinking Fast and Slow.
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I mentioned, uh, from Daniel Canman,
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and then there was a terrific book called Snowball
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and a blizzard by, uh, Dr.
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Steven Hatch who talked about, uh,
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how hard might recognize this as a mammogram.
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Uh, how hard does, you know, to find some things
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because they, you know, they're difficult to, we, we deal
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with a high level of uncertainty.
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And again, the whole concept of, of, of uncertainty
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and the high level of uncertainty that we deal with
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Sort of begs the question that how much of the things
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that we call error are just a manifestation
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of the inevitable uncertainty that we find ourselves in.
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Um, terrific book, uh, by Stuart Firestein, the head
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of Biology at Columbia, uh, talking about, uh, how failure
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and repeated failure is what made science successful.
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And, you know, we, we need to do that.
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So, uh, a couple of final thoughts on on closing.
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Uh, when you think about tort law, tort exists, you know,
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basically, uh, for multiple reasons.
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Uh, one is to deter bad behavior.
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Uh, the other is to punish malfeasance.
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And the third is to compensate people that are harmed.
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And when you're dealing with perceptual error,
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the most common errors that radiologists make, you know,
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most of them are outta the radiologist's control
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that we simply don't see something, even though we looked
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and we did all the things that we're supposed to do.
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Um, and you can't get that
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to improve by punishing it.
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You can't, um, change that.
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Uh, you can't just, you know, be more careful
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and it just doesn't work.
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Uh, we're dealing with an underlying biological process,
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so perhaps there are some situations
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that we commonly see radiologists sued for,
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that it's really not appropriate to go through tort law,
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and we ought to find other ways to compensate, uh, people
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who are harmed because people are harmed by our errors.
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And that's, that's a reality,
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and we have to, uh, deal with that
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and, um, make restitution for that.
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Um, but sometimes, you know, blame
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and, you know, concept of negligence
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and harm are not as tightly connected as people may think.
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And, uh, when you can't control it,
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but it's a reality, then you have
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to mitigate it some other way.
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And, you know, that's what the insurance industry,
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you know, is supposed to do.
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Um, and asbestos, we have, you know, a fund that pays people
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who are harmed by asbestos without necessarily pointing the
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finger and blame at people
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who used insulation in the 1940s, you know, for example.
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So, one last thought in closing, uh, about quality.
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The race for quality has no finish line.
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So when you think about it, is kind of like a death march.