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So let's think about the mechanism of perceptual error.
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So once again, these are the errors where you look,
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but don't see where the lights are on nobody's home.
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And, uh, somehow we see, so we, we fail to see something
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that is later obvious, even to ourselves.
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In retrospect, this has a certain rate of occurrence,
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about two or 3%,
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and it has a remarkably stable error prevalence since it was
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first described by Garland in the 1940s.
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And this is despite tremendous advances of technology
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and knowledge being measured across a broad range
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of practice situations, multiple generations of providers.
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I mean, my practice today does not resemble Dr.
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Garland's practice at all.
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I don't think he would recognize what I do,
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and I would think of what he did was quaint
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and, and historic.
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Um, but remarkably, we have the same error rate.
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Um, it really suggests
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that there's an underlying human factor,
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an underlying neurobiological mechanism.
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And, you know, we do have these biological tools
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that have been handed down, you know,
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for millions of years of evolution.
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We operate using the eyes
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and brain that developed
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for very different reasons than sitting in front
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of a monitor all day reading x-rays.
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And, uh, you know, we have some amazing abilities.
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Uh, we know
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that you can detect an abnormality again from Dr.
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Kiki's work, uh, with eye tracking, you know,
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400 milliseconds.
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Most radiologists will find the
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abnormality on an, on an image.
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Um, we know that there's unconscious
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or pre-conscious detection
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and filtering of things that we see.
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We know there's tremendous pattern recognition
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and pattern creation.
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We have all these great superpowers,
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but we also have some limitations.
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And, you know, one of them is we we're, we fall prey
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to certain, you know, classic illusions.
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Like it's very hard to see this as both a duck and a rabbit.
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This could be the rabbit's nose, his mouth and his eyes,
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or this could be the duck's eye and his bill.
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Um, and, uh, you know, the,
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the duck rabbit illusion is very common.
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This was a great paper. This was a few years back.
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Um, Evans et all, uh, they basically got a bunch
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of radiologists to look at mammogram images
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that they flashed on the screen for half a second.
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And, uh, the radiologist could of course, um,
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pick out which ones, you know,
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were from women who had cancer.
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But the interesting thing is they were
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of the opposite breasts, the
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breasts that didn't have the cancer.
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And, uh, so, uh, looking at the mammogram
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of the opposite breasts 80% of the time, uh, uh,
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just about the radiologist could pick it out.
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Looking at that for half a second. It's amazing superpower.
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They cannot tell you how they did it.
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I can't tell you how they did it.
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Um, but yet we still have this error rate.
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And, uh, eye tracking, uh, studies have been very helpful.
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Um, this again, is from Elizabeth Kapinsky from Emory.
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Uh, the, uh, the dots show you where the,
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where the eyes fell, you know, that,
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that the foveal central vision and the, the red bars
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Or the Cades between, uh,
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and, uh, it shows you that the, the GA is tracking of how a,
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how someone looked at a chest x-ray.
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We know that they look at, they'll look at an x-ray, uh,
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differently if they're tired, as opposed to they're fresh.
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Um, so abnormalities are often detected in
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less than a half a second.
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And the gaze also tends
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to dwell on areas, uh, where they miss things.
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So, uh, they'll look at something, something multiple times,
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their gaze will be drawn to it
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and they'll, you know, they'll ultimately not see it
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and afterward not remember, uh, having ever looked at it.
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And, and certainly have no recollection
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of there being anything there.
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And you show them this thing that they missed
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and say, well, you looked at this like eight times.
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Uh, and, um, so, uh, there,
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there is a subconscious process going on
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that doesn't involve working memory.
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And, you know, you know, again,
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the lights are on, but nobody's home.
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And, uh, you know,
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radiologists are no better at
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finding Waldo than anyone else.
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It turns out that our skills, our,
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our amazing superpowers are really only limited to the,
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to our area of expertise.
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And, uh, uh, you know,
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we've all seen solution since childhood.
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We know that the horizontal lines are the same exact
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length, but it sure doesn't look that way.
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Uh, this one's amazing to me.
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This is called the Shepherd's Table illusion.
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Both tabletops were exactly the same.
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And I actually had to get a ruler and measure it
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because I couldn't believe it, but it is true.
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Um, this is a great illusion.
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Uh, this is called the Fraser Spiral.
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It sure looks like a spiral.
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In reality, it's just concentric circles.
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So now you know the secret. I'll take the circle away. Oops.
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Looks like a spiral again.
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Even knowing what it is cannot defeat the illusion.
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This illusion is cognitively impenetrable
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and, uh, you know, how many colleagues are.
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Could you also describe as cognitively impenetrable?
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Um, half the people will see this as moving.
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Half will see it as static. I can't predict.
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Um, here's a functional MRI of my own brain.
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I'm thinking it'd be really great if we could figure out why
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this, why this is happening.
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That's sort of our moonshot. I.