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Today we are honored to welcome Toby gilk for a lecture on preventable
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MRI tragedies.
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Toby gilg is a two-time member of the American College of radiology's MRI
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Safety Committee and a co-author of that group's 2007-2019
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and 2020 Publications.
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He is one of the founding board members of the American Board of Mr. Safety
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and a pasture of the organization and holds
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both their mrso and mrsc certifications.
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He also has his own Consulting service and offers the Advanced MRI safety
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seminar in Dubai.
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With that we're ready to begin. Today's lecture Toby. Please take it
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from here.
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Thank you very much. And I am Overjoyed at
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the opportunity to share this with you.
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so preventable MRI tragedies
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As mentioned I'm your presenter Toby Tobias gilk.
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A couple of disclosures. So in addition
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to my own consulting company gilk
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Radiology Consultants. I work for a company called
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Radiology planning to architectural equipment planning
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design firm as the name suggest specializes specifically
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in Radiology facility planning design
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construction. Most of the
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work that I do through guilt Radiology Consultants is sort
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of limited time frame Consulting with individual facilities
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or groups. I do have one ongoing
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relationship and that is with a company
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called metrocens that makes feral magnetic detection
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equipment some of the
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information that I'll be presenting was actually developed for
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mattresses and and
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you'll see that when we get to it.
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In addition to that because of my relationship
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with the board of the abmrs. I
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have access to my help
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right the certification questions for the
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exams for Mr. Medical director, Mr.
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Safety Officer and Mr. Safety expert. So whenever
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I give a talk that touches on the subjects of
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MRI safety, I include this disclaimer which essentially
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says that I'm not
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only allowed to I'm encouraged by the ABM arrest to
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talk about MRI safety, but the
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talks are always related to MRI safety Concepts
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and and general principles and are
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not particular to exam content
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for any of the abms exams.
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So
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Today, we're really going to touch on three topical areas.
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We're going to talk about the trajectory
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of MRI safety and MRI accidents
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in the US because to the
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best of my knowledge. We only really have good access to data on
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this in the US. We're going to
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explore some of the
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early MRI accidents are the one that sort of
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really galvanized MRI safety as a discipline and
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then look at some of the stuff that's happened in
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the very recent past and we're gonna
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look at
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Accreditation and accreditation criteria and
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it's promise of safety and
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and how effectively accreditation standards
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within the realm of MRI how effectively
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they withhold their promise of delivering
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safety at the point of care practice.
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So to start off MRI the safe
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modality, right? So
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there are lots of different ways that we could potentially Define safety. But
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in my opinion the the lowest common
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denominator of how we
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might Define that is prevention of injury.
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If we're allowing injuries to occur We are failing in
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really any definition of maintaining
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safety or achieving safety.
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So
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How are we doing historically with respect to
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to MRI and MRI safety?
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Again, we have data from the US. Let's I
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think you can't look at safety or Adverse
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Events or accidents or injuries in a bubble.
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We have to kind of put them in context and I think one of
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the most important pieces of context is what
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has been happening to the number of MRI
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imaging studies that we do and if
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we use the year 2000 as a starting point and we
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look at changes in MRI procedure volume
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in the US over time. It has
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been for the most part over the last couple of decades a
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story of slow and steady growth.
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2000 when covid hit and MRI volumes
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dropped off a cliff and we are still in
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the the rebound phase following the the covid
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disruptions in MRI procedures. So
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this is Imaging volume growth over time.
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What does MRI accident growth over
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time look like so if we were
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doing a better job over time managing reducing
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accidents and injuries then and
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accident curve would be below the blue line.
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if we were doing no better or no worse than the accident curve would
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essentially be overdrawn immediately on top of
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the Blue Line showing procedure volume growth
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Unfortunately, neither of those two things are true.
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And if we look at percentage change of MRI accidents
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using the year 2000 as a baseline And if
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you
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Go forward a few years or backwards a few years you find out that
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even though I only picked the year 2000 because it's a
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nice round number the fact remains. It's pretty
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representative of the decade or
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so that it's in the middle of but if
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we look at this
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If you do a linear regression of both.
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procedure volume growth and accident volume
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growth
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You find that.
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The linear regression shows almost three times the
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rate of growth on average across
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this time frame of MRI accidents
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as opposed to procedure volume.
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Said simply whatever it is that we're growing in MRI
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volumes. We're growing almost three
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times that much and MRI accidents.
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That is an unsustainable pathway.
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It's important to note that the red line the accident
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data in that previous graph. There
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are a couple of really important things that
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aren't included in that when there's
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an adverse event acting, you know,
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an MRI acting upon a medication pump
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or a pacemaker an implant or
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medical device and somehow the interaction between the MRI and
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the medical device causes the medical device
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to malfunction or behave inappropriately
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that adverse event
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is categorized under the medication pump
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or the pacemaker or whatever the device is. It's not
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categorized under MRI. So all of
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those Adverse Events involving
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Interaction interference with implants and
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devices. Those are not counted in that
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red line data. We saw in the previous slide similarly drugs
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are tracked separately. So any
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adverse reactions with contrast agents
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delivered in MRI also not included in the
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red line, which means the actual
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number of real MRI specific
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accidents and injuries is actually greater than
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what we see in that red line data from the
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previous slide.
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So MRI accidents then and
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now let's let's start with then. Let's
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start at the very beginning what a very good place to
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start. We're gonna start with the mother of all MRI
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accidents the Michael colombini
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accident. Now if the name doesn't
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sound familiar to you, that's okay. You may be
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more familiar with it as the young boy who died
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when an oxygen cylinder was brought into the magnet room.
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What we're looking at right now is a floor plan of the facility where
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this?
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Bellwether accident actually happened, right?
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And if you're not familiar or not comfortable looking
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at floor plans architectural drawings, this is
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essentially a one meter
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thick coronal slice through the building and if
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that helps you sort of visualize the building that's that's
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exactly what a floor plan is.
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So I'm gonna walk us through very quickly and
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and not a whole lot of detail this particular accident.
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So we're gonna start with the anesthesiologist. I'm
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just I'm dropping him in the MRI scanner room.
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That's where he winds up. But he
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begins where the boy Michael colombini
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the blue star and he's in the induction Bay,
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right? And the anesthesiologist gives him
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a sedative before bringing him
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into the MRI scanner room in addition to the anesthesiologist and
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the boy himself. We have two technologists on
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duty. One of them is about to run the study the other of
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which is doing post-processing from a previous study.
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Now as I say with the anesthesiologist gave the
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boy a sedative they move him into the
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MRI room. Now as they're moving in from
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the gurney onto the MRI exam table. He pushes
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through that first dose of her said and they give him a second dose.
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And and then they put the nasal cannula on him and
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they're coming putting the top half of the
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head coil on him and he pushes through his
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second dose of her said and so they give him a third dose.
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At this point the MRI technologist who was assisting with positioning
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goes back into the scan room. The anesthesiologist.
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Is there waiting for the study to
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start and sees the pulse ox beginning to
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drop
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it would appear that they have over sedated the
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boy and it's suppressing respiratory function and
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anesthesiologist goes over to the wall outlet
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to adjust the flow of oxygen going
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to the cannula.
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But there's no flow. There's no air. There's no
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Oxygen coming out of the wall outlet. So the
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anesthesiologist knocks on the window and goes to the door having.
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Called for the technologist. There was no intercom in this setup. The
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technologist comes around and says, what's up,
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doc. What can I do for you?
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Anesthesiologist says, you know, my patient is
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desatting. The oxygen is not working. I need you
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to fix the oxygen now.
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This Tech was a very new hire to the
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MRI facility and she knew that there
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was something odd about the oxygen it wasn't piped in
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from the main hospital Central Supply, but you wasn't exactly
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sure so she went back to the more senior
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Tech who was doing the post processing and the
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more senior Tech said, this is something that's really important for
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you to understand how it works at this facility. You don't
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know let me show you let's do this together.
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So the two of them go into the equipment room or system component
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room of the MRI where there's a bulk cylinder
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that feeds a line that goes through
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the wall into the magnet room and that bulk cylinder had run dry.
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So more senior Tech is showing the more Junior Tech how
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to go about swapping out the bulk cylinders.
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In the meantime the patient's oxygen sat continues to
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drop and drop and drop in the anesthesiologist becomes more
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and more agitated.
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And he's at the door and he's Yelling to the technologist who
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now are essentially in an acoustically separated
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room and they can't hear anything that the
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radiologist. Excuse me. The anesthesiologist is saying
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so they're oblivious to his increasing levels
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of agitation. So he's yelling and
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yelling and yelling for oxygen and yelling in
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frustration that the texts are responding to him.
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And In This Moment a nurse who had left something
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in the department from a previous patient lets herself
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into the the MRI area and she
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hears the anesthesiologist calling for oxygen
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for this dating child.
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The nurse remembers from her earlier trip
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down to MRI that she saw portable
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cylinders. Where did she see them?
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She goes into the induction Bay and she sees a
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few portable oxygen cylinders.
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She picks one of them up and hands it to the radiologist. The
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radiologist turns around takes two steps into the room and
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the cylinder flies into the
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MRI scanner where the boy is positioned strikes the
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boy in the head and face the injuries,
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ultimately fatal, but the
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immediate reaction of the anesthesiologist on
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the nurse is they call the code Team Code team
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comes and sees this and they Panic a
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little bit because while they know how to treat
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Trauma, they don't know how to extricate the
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boy out of the MRI because he's somewhat pinned by
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the cylinder. The code team actually calls a
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paramedic team who was responding dropping a patient off
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and together the code team and the
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paramedics and the anesthesiologist and
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a nurse. They extricate the boy and they're Wheeling
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into the ER and about this moment the
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two technologists appear from the equipment room
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and announce that everything is fine because
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they've swapped the cylinders and now the oxygen is
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working fine.
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right
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so
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if you want more information about a more in-depth root cause
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analysis if you have your phone shoot this
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QR code, I've got a few more QR codes in the in the presentation.
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Ask yourself in this particular story. What were the
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contributors to this accident? Right was
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it the the training or the knowledge level of
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the anesthesiologist where the training and knowledge level
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of the nurse was at the
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technologists a lot has been made today of lesser
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Staffing at the
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point of care. This was an instance where we had two technologists at
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the point of care and this accident still occurred.
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Was it a question of who
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had access to the MRI suite was
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it a problem with the cylinders?
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I would argue that each and every one of those elements actually plays a
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contributing role and if you compare those
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elements to existing licensure
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regulatory accreditation standards,
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I think that you will find that it
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would really not be that difficult to be in full
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compliance with your state licensed your requirements and perhaps
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your Enterprise or modality level
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of accreditation minimum requirements and still have
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this accident occur to keep again, we're going
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to look at accreditation requirements specifically here
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a little bit later in the presentation.
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So that was in 2001 that
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accident happened.
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Have have we learned our lessons?
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Short answer that is no.
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Just this past weekend. I had
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to rebuild this entire presentation because this past weekend somebody sent
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me the image on the left, which is
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a scooter for somebody who's had
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foot or ankle surgery and can't put weight on it. And so
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you essentially put one leg on the scooter and wheel yourself
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around.
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A patient wield this scooter into the MRI scanner
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room. This is
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Friday of last week six days ago
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the Imaging Center where this occurred apparently rallied all
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of their staff and got everybody all around and
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they were trying to yank the the scooter out of the bore
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of the MRI when the patient informed them the
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patient police officer informed them
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that in the little bag that hangs on
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the handlebars was a pistol at that
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moment. The Imaging Center stopped trying to
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pull the scooter out of the MRI and
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subsequently called for ramp down
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from the manufacturer.
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We can't for the life of us. We might not have seen the
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pistol the handgun but we can't
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for the life of us pretend that we didn't see a giant metal
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scooter and recognize it
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as as a potential risk.
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So that was an image that I got this weekend. I posted
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it and I said, oh my goodness these things are still happening.
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And I opened the floodgates immediately after
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I got this picture which I understood was
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also an MRI accidents transport chair that happened
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last week. Somebody sent me that
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picture of I posted it immediately after I
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got this picture which is a wheelchair stuck
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in an MRI. I
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heard from somebody who understood that
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at least the initial cost estimate and this may
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have included interrupted patient care services, but the
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initial estimate what ran in seven figures
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for what it was going to cost to restore
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this service.
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So I posted this and then I got this one. It's
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a little difficult to see because this photo
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is taken through the control room window, but there's
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an oxygen cylinder in one of those little
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wheeled dollies and the
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person who sent this to me said I happened to know what Imaging
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company one of your previous
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images was from this is from a different location
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same Imaging company as one of the other images.
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Just add one of their different locations from a few weeks ago. I posted
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it and I got this one, which is a syringe
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pump on a non Mr. Conditional
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syringe pump. It would appear inside the
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bore of the magnets. I posted that one.
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I got this one, which is a floor cleaner in an
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MRI. I got this one which
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was an MR conditional infusion
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pump that had mistakenly been
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attached to a conventional IV poll.
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And while the pump was safe. This is
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a couple of folks with bed sheets wrapped around the pole trying
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desperately to keep it from going into the bore of
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the magnet.
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They had already removed the pump on when this picture was taken
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and then I got this picture, which is
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a ventilator up against the MRI.
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So the notion that somehow these MRI
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accidents are a relic
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of our distant past.
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These pictures that I'm just shared with you. This little
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photo montage is a collection
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of accidents that have happened most of
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them within the last couple of weeks in different
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locations. Most of these are throughout the US. I know
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at least one of them is outside the US
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These are not in our rear view mirror. This is not ancient
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history this continues to occur
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on a regular and frequent basis.
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and if that is news to you, it's because
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We do an excellent job of hiding our
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dirty laundry in this profession. It is
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a rarity that we see any of these much less,
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you know a flurry of them. Like I just shared with
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you of recent history.
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One of them that got buried.
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Tried to get buried but Western incident
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in which a prisoner in
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handcuffs and shackles and a
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corrections officer both.
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Went into an MRI scanner room and both got
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stuck to the magnet. I've written sort of
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a
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preliminary investigative article if you
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shoot the QR code on the screen it will take you to that.
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I posted it on LinkedIn so you if you
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find me on LinkedIn, you can also just find that article.
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so
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What is the state of MRI safety right? We
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know how accidents happen now. I
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just showed you a whole bunch of projectile accidents because those are
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the ones that make the best pictures but those are by no means the only
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type of MRI accidents or injuries that occur.
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We have a really good understanding of
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virtually all of the the means
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by which.
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People get injured in MRI the means by which
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accidents occur in MRI.
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in addition to that we know how to prevent them
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and we know that those preventions are
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remarkably effective when properly deployed. So
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if we know how to
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prevent or we know how the accidents occur we know how to prevent them.
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Why do I have a photo montage to
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show you right?
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So let's start by
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by addressing the point that I was just making that, you
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know, the projectile accidents are the ones that are most photogenic,
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but overall. How do people
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get injured in MRI?
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They're actually.
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A handful of different injury types that are the most
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common and then within each injury type. They're
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actually a few different causal Pathways
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that can wind up producing that
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injury type.
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So not only do we need to look at injury type, but we need to look at causal
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pathway.
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And again, as I said at the beginning there are lots
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of ways that we can talk about safety or Define safety, but
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I think prevention of injury should be
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the lowest common denominator the thing upon which
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we can all agree.
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So how do we cause injury and MRI? This is
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and and the QR code will be on the
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next several slides. So if you don't make it quite in
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time on this one, you'll have a few
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more shots. This is a study that I
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did got published
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by metrosense. This is actually a repeat of a
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study that I did with Dr. Emmanuel kanal that got
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the paper behind this got turned
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into a scientific presentation at the 2012. Rsna.
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So I did that.
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Study with Dr. Canal that got presented at rsna
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in 2012 with two years of data. This is
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a repeat of that study with two years of more contemporary data.
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In general 95% of
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the injury accidents that we evaluated fell
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into one of three categories Burns
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projectiles and hearing damage 5%
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of the reported injury accidents.
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Are everything else? So if we can address Burns projectiles
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and hearing damage, we can actually successfully address
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95% of injury accidents
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in MRI.
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So when?
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Dr. Canal and I and then later me on my own looked at.
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Projectile accidents we'll start there because they're the most photogenic. What
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are the steps existing best
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practices now?
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When Dr. Canal and I did this for the 2012 rsna
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meeting we used the then most recent
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most up-to-date ACR guidance document on
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safe Mr. Practices the 2007 edition of that.
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So we took three best practices that
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came directly from that ACR 2007
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document utilizing the
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acr4 Zone which links Access Control to
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screening and supervision. Number one. Number two,
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the use of feral magnetic detection systems to alert
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us for objects that are potential projectile
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threat objects and number three
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conspicuously labeling the Mr. Safety status
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of objects and device that reside inside
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the MRI suite, right?
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If you applied those three protections 69%
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of all the injury accidents
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in the more recent evaluation 69% of
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them.
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Could have been prevented by one or a combination of these three.
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existing best practices
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Now the 69% has asterisks next to it because the 31%
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in the two years of data that we looked at where
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it wouldn't have prevented that entire 31%
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of the cohort was service Personnel. So
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another way of looking at this is it would have been these three
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preventions would have been a hundred percent effective in clinical
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scenarios, and it was only in a service situation
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where they begin to get weaker,
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right?
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So that's projectiles. What about Burns same thing
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Dr. Canal? And I identified three existing best
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practices taken directly from the ACR 2007 document
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and they were utilizing either an
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air gap or padding. We said one centimeter, but
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really it was whatever the Mr. System manufacturer specifies
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for that particular system, but provide an air gap or
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padding between the patient and the transmitting RF element
28:30
remove unneeded electrically conductive material and
28:33
prevent large caliber body Loops skin
28:36
to skin contact.
28:39
You do those three things individually or in
28:42
combination and they would have likely prevented 94% of
28:46
the burn injury cases that were evaluated
28:49
in that two-year period 94% prevention of
28:53
burning injuries with these three protections, right?
28:58
The third most frequent form of reported
29:01
injury MRI classified injury is
29:04
hearing damage. Unfortunately only
29:09
about 11% of the hearing damage
29:12
cases were identified the
29:15
patient not having been provided with hearing
29:18
protection. So
29:21
low hanging fruit the first thing we can suggest and again this comes
29:24
directly from that 2007 ACR document
29:27
require the use of hearing protection.
29:32
And that will fix the 11%
29:35
Now these next two were not
29:38
parts of that 2007 document they have
29:41
been added in to subsequent additions and
29:44
they are at a verify fit and function
29:47
of provided hearing protection and having
29:50
at least one alternative means if you
29:54
normally provide patients with the compressible foam earplugs
29:57
make the over the
30:00
ear muffs available for patients. If they
30:03
can't or won't use the compressible foam plugs
30:06
give them an alternative.
30:10
So of that more recent study that I did
30:13
with metrosense if we take those three Burns
30:16
projectiles and hearing damage.
30:20
The injury accidents and we apply the
30:24
three.
30:26
Preventions for projectiles the three preventions for Burns and
30:29
the one that we measured from the 2007
30:32
document of providing hearing protection for auditory injury.
30:38
Those would prevent 74% of the
30:41
Mr. Injury accidents.
30:45
Which is nothing to sneeze at and if we exclude
30:48
the service Personnel from this that
30:51
same data essentially turns into 80% prevention
30:55
rate and that's even before we add
30:58
in our two additional protections for
31:02
hearing protection.
31:04
Now hearing protection or hearing injury cases is really the
31:07
smallest slice of those three. So the additional protections
31:10
may not have a huge impact on the overall numbers,
31:13
but they can help a significant
31:16
number of the patients who use hearing
31:20
protection incorrectly.
31:24
so
31:26
we have the expectation.
31:29
The expectation is actually given to us by accreditation
31:32
organizations, right the accreditation
31:36
organizations. What is it that they promise?
31:40
they promise assurances of
31:45
Industry standard minimum levels of image
31:48
quality and patient safety and
31:51
I'm talking here specifically about accreditation standards
31:54
as applied to Radiology.
31:57
So
31:59
if we take that and we look specifically at MRI
32:02
safety and we look specifically at those
32:05
preventions that
32:08
take them together are going to give us somewhere between 74 80% Effectiveness
32:11
in terms of reducing injury accidents.
32:16
That's evaluate the degree to which existing accreditation
32:19
standards actually fulfill their
32:22
promise of safety when it comes to MRI, right?
32:28
So we're gonna look at tables for
32:31
the next three slides. So on
32:35
the left are the two most popular Hospital parenz
32:38
age accrediting organization and
32:41
the two most popular parents Opie
32:45
outpatient accrediting organizations Radiology specific
32:49
accrediting organizations, and I have
32:52
gone through their site accreditation requirements
32:55
for our best practice
32:59
protections for projectiles Burns and
33:02
hearing injuries. Now before I give you my results,
33:06
I want you to identify and think
33:09
for yourself.
33:10
Requiring the four zones requiring ferromagnetic detection
33:14
and requiring conspicuous device
33:17
labeling for Mr. Safety properties. How many
33:21
of these three do you think your accreditation
33:24
organization requires? And if
33:28
you're at a hospital site and you have both for example Joint
33:31
Commission or DMV and ACR
33:37
Find them. How many do you think they require?
33:43
Joint Commission has a requirement that more or
33:46
less describes zones three and four without invoking
33:49
the acr4zone. So they
33:53
they get two thirds of a point for
33:56
the four zones the ACR
33:59
which developed the four zone
34:02
model doesn't require it as a minimum
34:05
site required element of their MRI and
34:09
breast MRI accreditation programs.
34:14
Apart from The Joint Commission getting partial credit for one answer and the
34:18
accreditation organization minimum performance
34:22
for for protecting MRI patients.
34:26
from projectiles is is
34:30
pretty poor
34:32
pretty awful. In fact now let's repeat this exercise. We're
34:35
going to do the same for crediting organizations. But now
34:38
we're going to do it for burns right again in
34:41
your mind. I want you to think how many
34:44
of requiring padding between
34:47
the patient and the transmitting RF element
34:50
Removing electrically conductive material from the bore or
34:53
using EMR conditional if it has to be there and preventing
34:57
large caliber body Loops or padding the patient's tissues
35:00
from it themselves. How many of these
35:03
three are minimum requirements from Joint Commission
35:06
DMV ACR and IAC?
35:12
None of them require any of them.
35:15
Now I should say that joint commission
35:18
requires training on Burn risks
35:22
ACR requires the
35:25
existence of a policy on thermal injuries.
35:30
None of them actually require the explicit actions
35:33
the the direct preventions that would stop these
35:37
injuries from occurring requiring a
35:40
policy requiring training when you
35:44
don't require the specific actions is
35:49
clearly not effective if we look at the trajectory over time. All
35:52
right, so that was projectiles and burns. What
35:56
about hearing protection, right?
35:58
Requiring hearing protection verifying the fit and function
36:01
of the hearing protection providing an alternative means of
36:04
hearing protection again identify your
36:07
crediting organization. Tell me how many of these you
36:11
think are explicitly required as minimums
36:14
for your accreditation.
36:17
And if you were noticing a trend in the previous couple
36:20
of slides and you probably won't be terribly
36:23
surprised to see that Trend continue again. None
36:27
of these four crediting organizations
36:30
have explicit requirements for
36:33
these injury prevention
36:36
actions.
36:39
Pulled from best practice documentation
36:42
and the verify fit
36:46
and function and provide alternative means I know
36:49
verify fit and function has been Incorporated in subsequent ACR MRI
36:53
safety guidance, and I think provide alternative means
36:56
has as well. So
37:00
These are best practices. None of these are our you
37:03
know from outer space Bizarro suggestion.
37:07
They're in the
37:10
industry standard best practice for MRI safety.
37:14
Just don't use them. We don't
37:18
incorporate them.
37:21
right, so
37:23
For our three injury types and
37:26
the three preventions for each injury type three times
37:30
three nine total preventions.
37:33
How do our accrediting organizations Fair?
37:37
Specific to MRI accidents and injuries Joint Commission
37:40
gets partial credit for one of the nine criteria the
37:43
other three evaluated accrediting criteria
37:47
or organizations and their criteria. They strike
37:52
out three times zero for
37:55
nine on on the remainder.
37:58
And I can't help but point out how the
38:02
ACR.
38:03
which has I absolutely unequivocally
38:07
applaud the ACR for their MRI
38:10
safety best practices documentation it is
38:14
It is a world standard because it is earned that
38:17
position.
38:19
Their accreditation however goes to Great
38:22
Lengths to dance around the idea that we're
38:25
actually going to require the practices identified
38:28
in now the manual on Mr. Safety
38:31
as a part of the accreditation.
38:35
We know how injury accidents occur. We know what
38:38
the effective preventions are. No body
38:41
on the outside is requiring them.
38:47
In fact this starting this weekend is
38:50
the ACR annual meeting. I'm actually I'm gonna
38:53
be there on Sunday. I got a poster accepted which
38:57
is how to QC MRI
39:00
safety standards accreditation standards. And
39:04
essentially I'm going to talk through
39:07
and if you hit the QR
39:10
code, you're going to see sort of the long form
39:13
article and included in that will be the copy
39:16
of the poster. You're more than welcome to
39:19
take a look at it. If you're attending the ACR annual
39:22
meeting. I'm invite
39:25
you to seek me out on Sunday. The only
39:29
day that I'm gonna be there unfortunately and ask your
39:33
colleagues about why ACR accreditation
39:37
why no accreditation
39:40
organizations really have the established
39:44
best practice prevention that would prevent
39:47
types of injuries
39:50
So the I talked about the data in the
39:54
study that I did with Dr. Canal and then the study repeated
39:57
with mattresses more recently
40:00
that data is actually
40:03
sort of captured in table format
40:06
right here and then
40:10
the information on the accreditation
40:13
of those
40:15
Top four accrediting organizations and their performance on
40:18
those injury prevention criteria on the
40:21
right hand side.
40:26
So
40:27
to summarize and
40:30
Just as a thought if you have questions spurred by
40:33
this now is the time to try and get them in. So to
40:36
start typing your your questions in the Q&A but to
40:40
summarize.
40:43
We talk about MRI as the quote unquote
40:46
safe modality.
40:51
The way in which we Define it as the safe modality really
40:54
appears not
40:57
to take into consideration the thought the
41:01
fact that we can and
41:04
do injure people.
41:06
On the regular we impale people
41:10
we Crush people we burn people we
41:14
interfere with the operation of
41:17
their medical devices that wind up poisoning them
41:20
or delivering therapy when it shouldn't or not delivering
41:24
therapy when it should.
41:27
We in MRI we injure
41:30
and kill people.
41:33
and almost every single instance where we
41:36
do that those injuries are preventable through
41:39
existing best practices
41:42
and if you look over time,
41:47
We have been doing a poorer and poorer
41:50
job keeping up with increases in
41:54
volume and managing MRI safety and
41:57
keeping it at worst.
42:00
On par with the growth in MRI. Imaging
42:04
Regulation and accreditation organizations really haven't
42:09
kept up when they
42:12
were never really there to begin with but they certainly haven't given
42:15
us the tools the the minimum requirements to
42:19
help protect patients.
42:24
And when we protect patients, we protect the
42:27
institution we protect the individual caregivers
42:30
as Radiologists.
42:33
You are captains of
42:36
the ship with respect to radiologic services.
42:41
Legally that means your responsible for the
42:44
safe execution of the studies. We beat
42:48
on Radiologists all the time for Quality
42:51
accuracy and timeliness of interpretation.
42:55
And yes, those are really important and those are you know
42:59
rvued if I can make that a verb.
43:04
In addition to that you have a legal responsibility to the
43:07
safe execution of the exam which means the
43:10
actions of the technologists or
43:13
nurses or Tech AIDS or others who
43:17
operate within the MRI environment?
43:20
so
43:23
as it stands today.
43:25
licensure regulation accreditation does not despite
43:28
its promises does not promise
43:31
MRI safety and the
43:36
the individuals the organizations that are responsible for
43:39
safety, which is the development
43:42
and implementation of standards of practice.
43:47
The responsible party is you is the radiologist
43:50
is the hospital is the imaging centers. And
43:53
so each of each of
43:57
us is on the hook for our part
44:00
of MRI safety.
44:04
With that I very much want to thank you for your time and
44:07
attention. We'll take as many
44:11
questions as time allows for if you
44:14
have questions that we can't get to or that you would
44:17
rather not ask in a public forum here is some of my contact information
44:20
you're free to reach out to me. If you
44:24
have an ongoing interest in MRI safety, I would
44:27
very strongly recommend if you're on Facebook
44:30
join the Facebook MRI safety group page. It
44:33
is an amazing resource of
44:37
more the 27,000 peers from around
44:40
the world and Incredibly helpful
44:43
resource for answering MRI safety questions.
44:47
and with that
44:48
speaking of questions
44:51
Toby we have quite a few questions, so we will try to
44:54
get to them all.
44:56
First one is what's the best form of hearing protection or highly
45:00
recommended one?
45:03
Um
45:05
I will give you my personal preference and that is
45:08
for the over-the-ear sound suppression sound
45:11
suppressor muffs. Obviously, you have to get the
45:14
ones that are all plastic and they don't work
45:18
on many patients inside a
45:21
head coil. So
45:25
This this has limited utility larger patients
45:29
in head coils. You're going to have to use in the ear types
45:32
of hearing protection. The reason
45:35
that I suggest First Choice being the
45:38
muffs is actually two reasons one.
45:41
There's actually
45:45
Technique involved in properly applying the compressible foam
45:49
ear plugs and if the patient
45:52
doesn't understand the technique you they
45:55
may look like they've put them in correctly,
45:58
but they may not be getting anywhere close to the sound protection that
46:01
the packaged indicates over the
46:05
ear muffs really require almost no technique. I mean if you
46:08
can put on a Parry earmuffs you you are protected right
46:11
so
46:14
Technique is is one advantage of the muffs. Number two generally
46:17
speaking. The muffs will provide equal if
46:21
not better sound suppression or noise reduction then
46:24
the in the earplugs. So if
46:28
you can use the over the
46:31
earmuffs, that's that's my preferred recommendation,
46:34
and I recognize that's not going to work in all situations.
46:39
Between the compressible foam earplugs and something a none
46:43
over the year muff sound suppression. There's what's
46:47
called swimmers putty and it says silicon putty and
46:50
you put it on the outer aspect or outer anatomy
46:53
of the ear and it essentially creates an airtight seal,
46:56
but it doesn't migrate down into the outer Canal
46:59
quite so much. There's some patients who just get the
47:02
heebie jeebies about putting things in their ears and for
47:05
them that swimmers putty may be an
47:08
acceptable alternative. It's they're
47:12
more expensive than the compressible foam plugs. So you probably
47:15
don't want to make that your first choice but as an alternative
47:18
means it will be the best choice
47:21
for some patients great question.
47:28
right
47:29
let's see who are MRI accidents reported
47:32
to who follows the
47:35
them up and how how is it that so many go
47:38
unreported?
47:43
The problem is that nobody reports these accidents. We actually
47:49
As a part of that that 2012 study that Dr. Canal and
47:52
I did we actually compared an 18-month
47:55
period of FDA accident reports
47:58
with
48:01
the state of Pennsylvania has a mandatory accident reporting.
48:06
Requirement and so we looked
48:09
at Pennsylvania accident reports MRI accident
48:13
reports versus National us
48:16
FDA accident reports and modeling
48:19
the Pennsylvania data out to sort of a national
48:22
scale. It suggests
48:25
to us that the the FDA
48:28
reported accidents are maybe two
48:32
percent of what actually occurs.
48:37
the reporting structure to the FDA it
48:41
if a patient if somebody not just a patient if anybody dies
48:44
as a result of an interaction with an FDA regulated
48:48
device the hospital or or medical
48:51
provider has to report it directly to the FDA short
48:54
of killing somebody.
48:58
the
49:00
Standard pathway for reporting accidents is through the OEM
49:03
the original equipment manufacturer of that object
49:06
or device your MRI scanner. So
49:09
for MRI, that's your Siemens is your
49:12
Philips is your GE is your cannons your
49:15
Those groups so somebody from the organization from
49:18
the hospital or Imaging Center reports it to the manufacturer the
49:22
manufacturer then beams whether or not it hits a
49:25
mandatory reporting trigger to then report to the
49:28
FDA. So if the
49:31
hospital doesn't
49:34
Share the information with the the OEM the service Personnel, then
49:37
it will never make it to
49:40
that reporting party. Also, if
49:44
an accident occurs, and even
49:47
if somebody is injured, but if the injury is
49:50
not to a level that it requires hospital admission, technically,
49:54
it doesn't meet the minimum.
50:00
Requirements the minimum threshold for mandatory reporting
50:03
so we can hit somebody,
50:06
you know in lacerate them and require stitches
50:09
we can give them a concussion we can break their arm. But as
50:12
long as that person that injured party is not
50:15
admitted to a hospital.
50:18
Technically, we're not required to report it to the FDA.
50:22
So who reports and and why too few
50:25
of us because there are too many loopholes in in
50:29
the reporting structure and process and we
50:33
really need to just like
50:36
my photo montage. We need to share this information because
50:39
all MRI providers Radiologists technologists
50:42
need to have a better understanding of what
50:46
the frequency of these types of accidents are and what
50:49
the potential consequences and in terms of injury and
50:52
liability.
50:54
We need to report more so that we all have a better understanding and
50:57
take the appropriate steps.
51:03
As a building regulator, I'd like to know more about the four zones and
51:07
the MRI suite where can I find that information? Oh, that's
51:10
a great question.
51:14
So
51:17
Probably the best places the original source, which is the acr's
51:20
Publications. So
51:24
They published a draft version of a 2023 manual on
51:28
MRI safety. I think they pulled it back from their website. So
51:31
at the moment the the most up-to-date information
51:34
you can get.
51:37
Is from the 2020 ACR manual
51:40
on Mr. Safety and it describes
51:43
the four zones, and actually there's an appendix within the
51:46
document.
51:48
that narratively walks you through sort of the patient's
51:51
experience of an MRI facility in MRI suite,
51:54
right and it talks about reception and patient prep
51:58
and changing and secured access and it
52:02
there are diagrams in the document. But in addition to that in this
52:05
appendix, there is sort of this narrative that explains what
52:10
What happens at what point in the patient experience and
52:13
how that relates to the physical environment
52:16
safety?
52:21
And your research do the accreditation and regulations reflect
52:24
the increased caseload of higher acute patient types having
52:27
Mr. Imaging.
52:34
Joint Commission I think
52:37
has in their standards something about you know managing risks
52:42
associated with patient acuity.
52:47
but that's
52:49
That's kind of a throwaway statement in the absence of any
52:52
sort of specific criteria. In my
52:56
opinion. I think what providers
53:00
really need are sort of
53:03
explicit statements of
53:05
What does increased patient Acuity look like
53:08
and what additional demands should that put on
53:11
us in terms of maintaining patient safety?
53:16
Um, there is a building code
53:19
document called fgi, facilities
53:22
guidelines Institute and fgi, publishes
53:27
hospital and outpatient facility design
53:30
criteria.
53:32
And from the 2018 edition of
53:36
fgi, and the more recent ones they actually
53:39
introduce a concept called patient Acuity.
53:43
Classifications. Right? An MRI
53:47
is not an MRI is not an MRI. We're not going to deal with
53:50
the same patience in the same clinical demands of a
53:53
magnet that is in an orthopedists office
53:57
versus a magnet that's
54:00
adjacent to the trauma. They have a level one trauma center,
54:03
right? They can be the exact same MRI scanner.
54:06
But what we are going to demand of
54:09
those in terms of Clinical Services are going
54:13
to be totally different we're going to have different patients different
54:16
patient levels of Acuity or intervention or
54:19
anesthesia sedation.
54:23
The whole patient care environment is going to be radically different
54:26
one to the next. So why would
54:29
we design or plan MRI facilities that
54:32
are cookie cutters of one another shouldn't
54:35
we be looking at? What are we
54:39
doing to this patient? What condition is the patient in when they
54:42
arrive they come in from the ICU? Are they a walkie-talkie,
54:45
you know elective knee exam.
54:49
We're gonna have different infrastructure needs different staffing needs different
54:52
patient monitoring needs different clinical support needs for
54:56
the higher Acuity patient or patients with
54:59
greater invasive demands for their study. So
55:02
in the 2018 fgi documents
55:06
it essentially built a Class 1
55:09
Class 2 class 3 that roughly corresponds with
55:12
exam procedure and surgery.
55:17
so
55:18
when it comes to that the the accrediting organizations really have
55:21
not touched this issue not effectively
55:25
any way to my way of thinking but if
55:29
you look at the fgi it at least
55:32
gives us sort of a framework and gives us some minimum criteria for
55:35
equipment and personnel and
55:38
infrastructure and that sort of thing that maybe really helpful. That's
55:41
a great question.
55:44
Okay, there's a couple questions regarding the shorter time
55:48
slots and whether that has had an impact on some of these accidents in
55:51
your opinion and maybe what you've seen in your research.
55:54
Do you feel like that's a safe correlation to
55:57
make
56:00
um
56:02
I think we can look at that and intuitively sort of
56:05
say this feels like it's it's a contributing factor. I
56:08
I
56:11
would share that feeling I
56:15
I personally think that the greater contribution more
56:19
so than than short.
56:23
Schedule Windows is all of the additional responsibility
56:27
that we've been layering on MRI technologists,
56:30
you know, 20 years ago.
56:34
MRI technologists, sat and scammed and
56:37
that was their job.
56:40
In a lot of facilities today, it's scan while
56:43
you're scanning your actively looking up
56:47
and implant or device or contraindication for a patient
56:50
who's you know future on the schedule you're dealing
56:53
with add-ins you're trying to rejuggle the schedule because
56:56
somebody knows showed if you're in a hospital environment, you know,
57:00
you've got the the neurosurgeon whose barking
57:03
at the technologist because clearance for their Neurosurgical patients,
57:07
you know in the device or implant that was poorly documented.
57:12
There's so many ancillary, you know
57:15
tertiary responsibilities sort of layered on
57:18
the MRI technologist.
57:21
If we look at what shorter appointment times mean, right what
57:24
we're taking
57:27
out from a longer appointment time is we're
57:30
just taking out additional sequences
57:34
or we're doing the same number of sequences. We're just
57:37
reducing the time that any one of them takes right? So we
57:40
still have to deal with exactly the same elements
57:43
in terms of getting patients on the table and off the table and
57:46
if a tech is scanning, that's what they should
57:49
be doing. So the reduced
57:53
time frame alone, I don't
57:56
think is is really the culprit. It's
57:59
the reduced time frame in concert with all of
58:02
these overlaid responsibilities on the
58:05
MRI technologist, and it's that
58:08
combination that is
58:12
In my opinion leading to distraction that
58:16
a number of the accidents that
58:19
we looked at pictures of and some other recent ones. If you
58:23
look at that article about the The Prisoner and
58:26
the guard that got stuck to the magnet
58:29
distraction also played a key role.
58:32
There was earlier a few weeks ago pictures of
58:36
a bed stuck to a magnet and that
58:40
again was an incidents of technologist
58:43
according to what I've heard so far the
58:46
technologist who was distracted in the moment and and
58:49
let that go in.
58:51
so
58:53
it's it's distraction exacerbated by shorter appointment schedules,
58:56
but it's distraction that is
58:59
is the the big key and that I
59:02
think is a function of expecting technologists to
59:05
multitask with just too many too many
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balls to juggle in any given moment.
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This last question. It'll be a double double
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question.
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Any recommendations on materials for understanding implants
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better? And then the
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Are there published guidelines around imris use
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in a hybrid or Suite okay, um
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implants and devices.
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in many instances we are
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More conservative than we need to be that in many instances.
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There are ways to identify safe Pathways to
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Imaging patients. They just
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require some additional knowledge. I will
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I'll put a plug-in for my friend and colleague Dr.
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Manuel Canal runs an amazing course
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geared towards both technologists and
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Radiologists that he does several times in the
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US every year. I've actually got
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model my Dubai course largely on on his course
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and that the knowledge
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that you get from from those courses will
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significantly change the way that you understand perceive
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measure risk and help
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you to understand ways in which you can
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effectively manage those risks.
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I am not aware of sort of
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a print resource. That really does the same job as
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the courses that Dr. Canal developed, but I
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would encourage you please take a look at those if
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they're at all, you know possible for you as a
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tremendous resource.
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doctor canal and others are working on a clinical guide
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that will capture some of this information and
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and help share it but that
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publication is
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aggressively a year out perhaps a
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little more. So to the second part of
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the question about interoperative MRI environments
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Interoperative, Mr. Pet Mr. Mr. Linac,
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you know where we are either putting MRI
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in in very unusual for MRI environments
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or we're hybridizing and
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we're smashing it up with another modality that has in
61:44
the case of Pat and radio Pharmaceuticals or
61:47
Linux and you know, ionizing radiation
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from the beams. We are superimposing
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two different safety regimes on
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top of one another and the
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only advice that I can give is is kind of general and and
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encompasses the inner operatives and the pet Mrs.
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And they are Linux and that
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is
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start early and recognize that you know
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MRI safety and infection control Provisions that
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you would apply separately in an MRI
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suite in an operating room. Now, you have to Overlay them and
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you have to Overlay them in a way that actually
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Supports best practices in the workflow and that
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doesn't happen automatically that actually requires sort
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of mapping out process and workflow and material and
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that sort of thing similarly pet Mr. And identifying,
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you know radio pharmaceutical and radiation
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protection for traveling radio Pharmaceuticals versus
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your acr4 zone model and that
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sort of thing and Mr. Linac, how are we going to provide these
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protections? You know, does it really change when
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we go from?
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walls that are eight inches of foot thick to walls
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that are a meter thick and how
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do we manage this in concert with you
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know, non-mr Linux as a part of a
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radon Suite
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it really requires.
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thinking about this prospectively trying to correct after the
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fact is always
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much more expensive much more invasive and much less
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satisfying and then planning that out ahead
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of time.
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Get people who are expert at not only
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the equipment siding signing. The equipment is difficult, but
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it is comparatively the easy piece get people involved who
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can integrate facility planning and design
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with workflow planning and
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design you want to build the workflow first
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model out the best possible, you know,
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workflow and operation and then
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design and build the building to to kind of
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crystallize that best case
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workflow.
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