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Hello, and welcome to Noon Conference hosted by Modality.
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Noon Conference connects the global radiology community through free live
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educational webinars that are accessible for all and is an opportunity to learn
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alongside top radiologists from around the world.
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Today, we are honored to welcome Dr.
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Benjamin Strong for a lecture entitled "137 Years of
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Malpractice." Dr. Strong completed residencies in both internal
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medicine and radiology and completed a fellowship in body
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MSKMR. He worked as an emergency physician for three years,
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private practice radiologist for two years, and academic radiologist for
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two years. He has worked in various capacities for virtual
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vRad, excuse me, for the last 21 years and holds licenses to
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practice in all 50 US states. At the end of the lecture,
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please join him in a Q&A session where he will address questions you may have on
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today's topic. Please remember to use that Q&A feature to submit your questions
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so we can get to as many as we can before our time is up.
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With that, we are ready to begin today's lecture. Dr.
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Strong, please take it from here.
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All right, folks. I'm going to go through this pretty quickly.
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Thanks so much for the invitation to speak.
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But this lecture tends to run about an hour 15, and we're going to try and
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do it in an hour. So to explain the topic, the
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title of this presentation, the bottom line is I did some
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math. And, what I did is I took
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almost four years, 41 months, of
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closed cases,
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and I have processed all of those. I had all the information,
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reports of counsel, depositions, images, reports, witness
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testimony, on and on.
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And when I compiled all this, I realized, huh, this is
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an unusual thing. This is in fact unique to have
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this much exposure to radiology medical
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malpractice. In fact, if you were to read an average
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workload for an average radiologist in an average-sized
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practice for any period of time, you
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would have to read for 137 years to have
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acquired this much medical malpractice exposure.
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All right. Since we are talking about misses, I want to level
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set everyone. You're probably thinking, "Well, I'll watch from
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intellectual curiosity, but certainly this will never happen to
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me." Especially if you're a resident, you may think you've never made an
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error. Well, that's absolutely untrue, and I want to
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level set everybody's expectations.
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So the vRad error rate has been very
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consistent at about 1.3 major
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misses, that's something affecting patient care,
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per thousand studies. That is our standard error rate.
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The studies that have been published with regard to
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actual QA rates are the Wilson Wong study.
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That's probably the largest, although it's now more than 20
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years old. But it brought the error rate in at about
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1.5 per thousand. There was the SAPA
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study, which was predominantly trauma patients and obviously
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had a much higher error rate, close to 30.
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And then there was the Wu meta-analysis, garbage in,
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garbage out, which yielded this garbage result of close to
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25 misses per thousand. So,
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although we're looking at a lot of misses by radiologists in my
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practice, they do actually very well
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compared to published standards.
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So the typical teaching on this, which I've found to be pretty
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well borne out, is that a typical radiologist will read
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14,000 studies in a year, will have one claim, that's
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a filed intention to sue, every seven
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years or every close to 100,000 studies, and there will be
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one settlement or indemnity. Indemnity is the
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phrase used for either a jury award or a settlement,
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but a payout of some kind, one in every five
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claims.
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So,
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vRad and any other emergency radiology
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practice is at slightly higher risk.
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We read a higher study volume. We have a distributed model, so you
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can't count on your colleagues to defend you.
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And we have greater exposure because ER cases
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undoubtedly bring the highest risk of medical
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malpractice suits. There is a great study from University
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of Washington that showed 46% of radiology
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malpractice actions will stem from emergency departments,
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even though that only makes up about 18% of all
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volume.
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I did an assessment of the entire medical
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malpractice histories of every radiologist that had worked for
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vRad over about a decade.
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And these are the numbers. Now, you have to take this with a grain of salt because
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these were people in all stages of their career.
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So we had people who'd worked 30 years, and we had people fresh out of
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training. So just a snapshot of a
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large number of radiologists, over 800 radiologists, shows you
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that about half of them have a claim of some kind,
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again, in all phases of career. Right?
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But the number I really want to point out here is these two at
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the bottom. The number that actually went to trial,
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26, and the number that actually resulted in a
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plaintiff verdict,
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one.
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So going to trial is exceedingly rare.
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In fact, most medical malpractice defense lawyers are
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very reluctant to go to trial. Your handling of any given
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case has to have been absolutely perfect.
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You have to have opened that study in a timely fashion with no delays.
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You have to have rendered an accurate report
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describing the important findings in clear and succinct
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diction. There can be no typographical errors in your report,
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and you have to have phoned in and made verbal communication
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of those critical findingsTo the relevant clinician.
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And if you haven't ticked every single one of those boxes, I guarantee
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you they will never take that case to trial.
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All right. So over this period of time, VRad read close to 20 million
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studies, and given the stats we just looked at, the expected
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number of claims, 195, expected settlements or
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indemnities, 39. And we came in slightly higher than
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that. And again, I attribute that to the fact that we read predominantly ER
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cases. So we're looking at 48 studies with
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indemnity.
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Of the 220 total claims, there were 36 that
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were opened and shut, meaning just thrown out by the court as
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unsubstantiated. There were 136 that were closed
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without indemnity, and the total cost in legal costs for us
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in those 136 cases was $6
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million. And that was money very well spent.
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All right, so let's look at our 48 indemnity cases.
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I took out three procedural cases.
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We are predominantly a diagnostic
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radiology shop. But we did run some on-site
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practices, and you can see the three procedural cases that
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I discarded. So what that leaves us with is
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45 cases that I went through in
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painstaking detail and charted in the following
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fashion. So we'll take a look at these.
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How did they break down? Clearly, the most expensive
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of all med mal cases are CT of the abdomen, pelvis,
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and chest X-ray. Those average indemnity and
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legal costs combined about $1.2 million
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each, whereas all of the other procedure types averaged
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about $800,000.
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How did they break down geographically? Well, what is up with the Northeast?
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There is no question the Northeast states, especially New York,
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Pennsylvania, and New Jersey, have the highest risk of medical
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malpractice proceedings. But there is another funny outlier, and
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that's New Mexico, and I know exactly why that was.
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New Mexico has legislation that has suspended
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most venue regulations, meaning you do not have to file
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suit in the actual region in which your medical
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malpractice action took place. So what these
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states do, and Pennsylvania now has the same suspension
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of venue. What these lawyers in these states do is
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they file in the most liberal and affluent
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city in any given state, because that is where you tend
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to get the highest jury awards. So, New
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Mexico is currently debating that, the legitimacy of that
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legislation right now. But over many years, over a decade, it's
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been that way. Pennsylvania has gone that way, and as
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one of my lawyer colleagues said recently, guaranteed,
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every single Pennsylvania case will now be tried in Philadelphia.
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But that's not the whole story. Those were just absolute numbers.
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Here were the total awards over this time period, and the clear winner
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is Pennsylvania. But let's go further
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with this and actually look at the percentage of volume that
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we had. So this is the percentage of our medical malpractice expense
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by state. And we do cover all 50 states, and
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therefore, if there's no number in a given state, there were no medical
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malpractice
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actions in that state. But let's take that and divide it by
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the percentage of our total volume by state,
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and that gives you a relative risk ratio for every state.
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Now, I want to quickly point out, I believe
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Nevada, Wisconsin, and Connecticut are
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all spurious values. They are related to single
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cases that were particularly expensive and therefore
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don't really reflect the risk. So I had a recent
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residency graduate contact me and express his
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concern over Nevada, Wisconsin, and Connecticut, and I told him,
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"I don't think you listened closely enough," because Nevada,
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Wisconsin, and Connecticut in this analysis were
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spurious. But that leaves us with New Mexico,
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Pennsylvania, and New Jersey as the highest risks.
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And I will tell you that New York is now making a run for it.
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I'm evaluating our medical malpractice
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proceedings
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for the next four years, and New York has taken off and is clearly
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going to be the winner. So ultimately, New York, Pennsylvania, New
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Jersey, and New Mexico are your greatest risks.
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So let's look at total costs. Legal costs, I will tell you
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this very simply, track to the duration of the
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proceedings. The longer any given proceeding goes on, the
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more you rack up legal costs, and it's
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striking. So the best way to handle a medical malpractice
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case is to get out.
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As far as indemnities go, the biggest one was the one case
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we had that went to trial and resulted in a jury award of
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$5.6 million. So that was the clear winner there.
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If we add these all up, you can see over a period of
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41 months,
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we spent a total of about $44 million.
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So a little more than a million a month is the cost
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for doing business if you're reading 7 million studies a
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year.Sorry,
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that hung up a little bit. All right.
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Let's next look at
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error rate and reading speed. Now, I didn't have
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data for every single radiologist here for a variety of
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reasons, but we certainly have enough to spot the trends.
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People tend to think, "Oh, if you get sued, it's because you are
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inaccurate at a baseline, or perhaps you
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read too fast." And I will tell you, there is no real
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correlation between reading speed and
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error rate. We've been tracking that data for more than 20 years, and
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I can tell you definitively that is not the case.
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However, every individual has their own
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reading rate at which their accuracy drops off, and that
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number might be five studies per hour.
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It might be 25 studies per hour. It varies
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by individual, and it's dependent, really, on your adherence
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to a structured search pattern for any given
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procedure, and just your ability to cognitively focus
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as far as I'm concerned. But the important point about this is
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you can see two-thirds of all our medical
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malpractice cases were radiologists with
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better than average error rates, and two-thirds
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are radiologists with slower than average read rates.
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So reading slowly or inaccurately, not really the
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point.
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It seems to descend more randomly than that.
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All right, if we look at my master chart, you can see the standard of
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care column right here. If there's a red X, that means the
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finding was missed in the standard of care, thus not met.
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If there's a green plus sign, that means the standard of
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care was met. The actual read was
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accurate. So there were 10 out of 45 where the
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standard of care was met, where the actual read was accurate.
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And these broke down very nicely into, was
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communications an issue or was it not?
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In these top five, communications was an issue, and
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that's actually a very low percentage, five out of 45, about
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11%.
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And that's actually quite low compared to the national
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average. When you look at national samples, the communication
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of a finding is actually relevant, and
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salient for that matter, in about 30, sometimes even
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as much as 40% of med mal proceedings.
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For us, we have all these communications automated.
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You can actually work for vRad and never dial the
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phone. We use natural language processing and now large
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language models to identify critical findings within your report and
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automatically trigger a call to the facility.
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So it's much lower than a typical practice
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might see. In addition, I would say of these
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five where communications was an issue, there were only
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two cases where it was a straightforward,
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the radiologist described the finding in the report, failed
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to call the referring clinician, right?
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And both of those cases were pneumonia.
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So I'm saying it now. If you see the initial
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diagnosis of lobar consolidation in the
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proper setting, fever and cough, in a patient from an
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ER or urgent care, you must call that
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finding in. That qualifies as a critical
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finding and must be verbally communicated.
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And I know when I give this lecture live, hands go up all around the
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room. For one thing, many residencies do not
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emphasize that requirement enough.
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You have the ACR to thank for that. More than 20 years
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ago, they rolled to the legal community and said,
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"Okay, we'll add that to the standard of care that a verbal communication
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must be made." It was something that should never have been done, but you have
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them to thank for it, and it is now firmly established as
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standard of care.
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The other question that people always ask is, "Well, but what about left
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lower lobe atelectasis in an ICU patient?" Well, obviously,
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that's not what I said, right? I said initial
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presentation of lobar consolidation with the right clinical history and the
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right clinical setting, ER or urgent care.
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When you make that initial diagnosis of lobar pneumonia, you need to
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call.
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All right. Oh, so let's talk quickly about these ones where what about
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this last group of five, this 11% where the
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report was accurate, the communications were appropriate,
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and causation was to the favor of the
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radiologist? So the radiologist did nothing wrong at all,
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and that's absolutely the case. You can be sued when you've done nothing
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wrong at all. And most of these come down
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to a radiologist being what they call the last
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one at the table. So when they do a med mal proceeding, they will
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typically run around and name every radiologist that had anything to do,
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or every doctor that had anything to do with that patient.
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And then one by one, they tend to settle out, come to an indemnity
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agreement, and drop out of the case.
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And defense lawyers absolutely abhor being
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the, quote, "last one at the table." You're the one that's going to bear the brunt
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of all testimony, and for that matter, any indemnity
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that's handed down by a jury. So they're very reluctant to do that, and most
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defense lawyers will simply settle out when you're the last one
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standing. So that takes those 10 off the
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table, and that leaves us with 35
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cases of straight-up diagnostic error.
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So let's pull those out
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and look at the trends here.Bottom line
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is this, there are three clear standouts in
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terms of the pathology that was involved in all
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of these cases. Epidural abscess, that's
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spinal epidural abscess accounted
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for three.
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Aortic dissection accounted for four, and ischemic
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bowel, usually due to superior mesenteric artery occlusion,
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accounted for six. And if we look at that, it makes up
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about 40% of our medical malpractice
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expenditure, as well as about 40% in absolute
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numbers. So those are the three,
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I call them the big three, that we're going to focus on here.
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Just quickly, we do a very robust QA
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review. Our radiologists are over-read to the tune of about
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10% practice-wide, and we have identified the things
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most commonly missed. So large classes, fracture,
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and mass nodule adenopathy, those are the most commonly missed
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things. But if you look at more specific pathologies,
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it's very clear. Intracranial hemorrhage and pulmonary
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embolism are the big outliers. So I'm not going to run through all this
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math, but I do want to point out that we then established what we call
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the big five, the five pathologies that are
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either most likely to convert to a medical malpractice case
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or most frequently missed. So you see them here, aortic dissection,
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spinal epidural abscess, superior mesenteric artery occlusion,
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intracranial hemorrhage, and pulmonary embolism.
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And by running the math on this, we can actually determine what is
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the percentage likelihood of any given finding being
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missed, what is the percentage likelihood that it converts to a medical
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malpractice case when missed, and from that,
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we can determine the actual cost to the practice for any given
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miss.
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We use that actually to direct our efforts in building AI
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algorithms to identify pathologies.
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All right, so now we're on to the actual cases.
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So let's look, I picked representative cases from each of
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these pathologies, and so these are what we will look at.
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And our first one is a spinal epidural abscess.
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First movie of the day never runs well, so we'll give it another
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shot here.
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There we go.
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All right. So the thing to note about spinal epidural
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abscess is this.
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In every case
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of CT for spinal epidural abscess, there has been
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another finding that should have tipped the
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radiologist to the fact that there is an infectious process
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in the neck.
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Prevertebral edema, tonsillar abscess, or as in
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this case, a septic facet joint.
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So you can see on the axials, there are these little lobulated
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fluid collections immediately adjacent to the facet joint there.
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The facet joint was only a little bit degenerated. There was no erosion.
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In fact, the bone windows were so unremarkable, I didn't bother
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saving them. Right? But you can see related to that, there
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is an enormous epidural fluid collection.
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It's going to be in the posterior left aspect right here,
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and there you can see it, that thickened dura and the displaced
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cord anteriorly,
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clearly present. And then let's go to the sagittals.
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You can see again those lobulated fluid collections, and there
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is the bulging epidural fluid collection right there.
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All right. So here is the report. I religiously
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duplicated all of the reports here.
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These are the complete reports without correction of
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typographical errors or any other such things. Right?
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And I've just put in yellow the salient features.
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So you can see the facet joint was called correctly.
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Oh, there was a typo there.
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Right? But basically, the epidural fluid
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collection was not described. We have a grading system for our
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reporting, a 10-point system where we just
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actually randomly pull radiologist reports and give them grades.
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We usually use this when they're first starting with us.
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But I had every one of these reports reviewed
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blindly by our medical directors and graded.
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So this one only got dinged on structured reporting and was otherwise
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a fairly high-scoring report, and that's obviously just report
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content and not with specific reference to the accuracy
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of image interpretation.
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All right, so what happened with this patient? Well, they came in at 5:00 p.m.
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with left upper extremity weakness and fever, and the CT was
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interpreted as a paraspinal soft tissue abscess.
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At 8:00 a.m., this was a preliminary study, so it was
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over-read the next day by the finals reader on-site, and
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they missed it again. And that's commonly the case with
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prelim reading, and it gives me pause when we talk about
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AI giving you an initial read because when I look at
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prelims being over-read the next day, easily
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50% of misses are missed a second time because of the
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cognitive complacence of a radiologist reading in that
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environment.
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So by 10:00 p.m. the next day, the neuro symptoms had progressed, and this
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patient went for a decompression surgery.
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They are now a partial quadriplegic, wheelchair-bound.
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The estimated verdict was $5.5 million.
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That's what the defense counsel will generate based on a whole bunch of
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inputs that we will get to. The chance of success was
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deemed 60%.The apportioned liability,
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usually determined by the counsel of both the plaintiff and
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the defendant, as well as the judge in conference, will apportion
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the liability. Any given indemnity that results will be
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apportioned in those percentages to the involved physicians.
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The estimated settlement was therefore 1.1 million.
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They actually have a mathematical equation.
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They invert the chance of success.
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So you would call this 40% chance of a bad verdict, right?
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And you multiply 40% by 40% apportioned
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liability times the estimated verdict, and that will
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generally render the estimated settlement of $1.1
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million.
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So the jury verdict came in at $14 million.
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This was that one case, it was from Wisconsin, that should
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never have gone to trial. In fact, I was in the conferences when
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this was determined, and I was quite vocal about the fact
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that there's a clear miss, there's a typo in the report.
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There's a bad outcome. This should never have gone to
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trial. So the doctor that pushed this through, I still refer
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to him today as the $6 million man.
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So there you go. Now, I did copy and paste
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comments from depositions, and it gives you an idea as to
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the way med mal lawyers think about these things.
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The red text is stuff that's obviously not in favor of the
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radiologist. The green text is things that are in
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favor of the radiologist.
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So you can see the trial judge ruled that VRAT, the radiologist's
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agreement with this discrepancy inside the QA system was
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admissible in court. And that is actually
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a terrible judgment on the part of the judge
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because that is not the case in the vast majority of
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states. Only in Kentucky, and I believe Michigan is
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working on it, are
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internal QA proceedings actually disclosed or
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discoverable in med mal proceedings.
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Most states agree that internal quality assurance systems should be
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separate from that, and in order to maintain the quality of
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care, we ought to be able to objectively
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look at any miss and handle it internally.
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But this one judge came along and said, "No, I think it's okay." And as a result
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of this, we actually changed the agreement
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diction in our quality assurance system to be sure that that
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will never happen again. The other thing you can do is establish a
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national patient safety organization, a PSO,
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that reviews internal quality data, and that provides significant
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protection against disclosure or
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discovery of quality assurance proceedings.
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An unusual comment was made here that one of the experts opined that
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total recovery, even with immediate diagnosis, would be an unreasonable
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expectation. And that doesn't come up as often as you'd
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like to think. In fact, there are many states that do
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abide by the lost chance
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doctrine, which means you don't get to say, "Oh, this patient
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would have died anyway," or, "This outcome would have been terrible
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anyway." It's called the lost chance doctrine.
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If the patient had had a timely access to the appropriate
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treatment, it is assumed, in most cases, and in most
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states, that the treatment would have been successful.
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And that's obviously a fever dream, but it is the case in
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med mal proceedings.
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All right, so that's our first spinal epidural abscess.
28:10
Our next one
28:12
is an MR. And this MR demonstrates what I
28:17
like to refer to as the reversal phenomenon,
28:21
where an MR, one of the series on your MR
28:25
is so abnormal that it looks normal.
28:29
So on the T1, just a little hint of high
28:33
signal right here in the anterior epidural space.
28:37
Not anything you'd probably call, unfortunately.
28:41
And here on the T2, it looks almost like it's an artifact, although you
28:45
can see a little cord signal there.
28:47
But let's go to the enhanced. When you go to a Gad-enhanced MR, you
28:51
need to note that mentally and think to yourself, I'm
28:55
reading a Gad-enhanced MR, which means fluid collections
29:00
should be low signal intensity,
29:03
including the CSF. Look at this. The
29:07
entire CSF is lighting up, all this patient's meninges.
29:11
This is way too much gadolinium enhancement.
29:14
In fact, there should be none.
29:16
But it's so extensive that it looks normal,
29:20
and by virtue of that, this enhancing fluid collection here in the
29:24
anterior epidural space was missed.
29:27
So let's look at those on cine.
29:32
Again, the reversal phenomenon. I see this with marrow,
29:35
diffuse marrow infiltration in widely metastatic
29:38
disease. The T1s will be dark, the T2s will
29:42
be bright, but so diffusely so
29:46
that people will mistake them for normal.
29:49
The last one is in neonatal brain MR for global
29:53
hypoxia or anoxia, global ischemic damage.
29:57
That can cause such widespread changes that you
30:01
may fall prey to this phenomenon there as well.
30:05
All right, so here is this patient's report.
30:08
You can even see in the clinical history, this patient was being evaluated for an
30:12
epidural abscess,
30:14
but it was clearly missed. And the thing that's amazing here is
30:18
this was an MR of the CT and L spine, as well
30:22
as brain MRs were done on this patient.
30:25
And all of them looked exactly like this enhanced one
30:28
here, where the entire CSF space lit
30:32
up.So very extensive infection.
30:36
So you can see this one got dinged just for structured reporting.
30:39
And actually now structured reporting is standard in our system, so
30:43
it wouldn't even have been dinged in modern days.
30:48
This patient came in at 12:00 a.m., left upper extremity
30:51
weakness, and the brain CT and L spine were all read as
30:55
normal.
30:57
It was a prelim, so the final read at 8:00 a.m.
31:00
the next morning, also normal.
31:04
It was discussed with the local neurosurgeon.
31:06
This patient was decompensating quickly and they
31:11
consulted a neurosurgeon who said, "You need to get this guy over to my hospital."
31:14
So he was transferred that night and had an epidural
31:18
abscess evacuated and the cord decompressed at that time.
31:23
The patient's now quadriplegic and wheelchair bound, spent a long
31:26
hospitalization with many complications.
31:29
The estimated verdict was between $9 and $10 million.
31:33
Chance of success, 50. Apportioned liability,
31:37
100%. That's fairly unusual for the
31:40
radiologist to bear the entire brunt of a potential
31:44
indemnity. In fact, out of the 45 cases I reviewed,
31:49
six had an apportioned liability of 100%.
31:52
So typically, they like to share the pain.
31:55
The estimated settlement came in at $2.25 million.
32:00
And as you can see, the indemnity that we ultimately paid was much, much
32:04
less than that.
32:06
So the plaintiff is an incomplete quadriplegic who requires total care.
32:12
The wife is his primary caregiver.
32:13
They've been married since '83, and a jury will like them.
32:17
So that's one of the things that lawyers do in these situations,
32:21
is they do a very thorough assessment of any potential witness,
32:25
and they include those evaluations in their reports of counsel.
32:28
So they will frequently talk about the credibility, the
32:31
believability, the compassion imparted by
32:35
given witnesses, whether that be the plaintiff or the radiologist.
32:40
They also do an in-depth evaluation of the
32:44
region and say, as in this case,
32:48
in general, the judges in Lake County are fair.
32:51
The juries tend to be conservative, made of middle-class workers, commuters to
32:55
parks, and retirees. So that factors heavily into
32:58
expected indemnities because the more
33:01
conservative locations tend to give lower
33:05
awards. And then lastly, what lawyers will do is
33:09
they will compare your given case to other
33:12
indemnities from that region of similar
33:16
pathologies. And you can see they were worried here because
33:20
adults who became paralyzed after spinal epidural
33:24
abscesses settled for large numbers
33:28
in similar cases.
33:30
So it was curious. This patient actually,
33:34
his job was he was the producer of documentary
33:38
Christian movies.
33:40
And I just wonder, was he one of those rare people that just practiced
33:44
what he preached? Because they only demanded the indemnity that would be
33:48
required for his ongoing care. And that's the reason there's such
33:52
disparity between the estimated settlement and the actual
33:56
indemnity that was paid. All right, so those are our
34:00
spinal epidural abscess cases. Let's move on to aortic
34:03
dissection.
34:05
Aortic dissection is similar to spinal epidural
34:09
abscess in that in every case of
34:13
aortic dissection that I saw that has gone to
34:16
MedMal, there have been other findings that
34:20
would clue you to the fact that there is an aortic
34:24
dissection present beyond just seeing the linear
34:27
intraluminal filling defect.
34:30
And in this case, that finding was the asymmetry of the
34:33
nephrograms. Those nephrograms are markedly
34:37
asymmetric. And when you see a delayed nephrogram like
34:40
that in a non-hydronephrotic kidney,
34:44
you have to suspect a vascular cause.
34:47
Either this patient is having a renal artery dissection or thrombosis,
34:51
or an aortic dissection,
34:54
that might either be involving the ostium of the renal
34:58
artery or might have thrown clot to the renal artery.
35:02
But when you see an asymmetric nephrogram like that,
35:06
you've got to start thinking something else is going on.
35:09
If that kidney happens to be hydronephrotic, certainly you can blame
35:13
it on obstruction. That will delay your nephrogram.
35:16
But in a non-hydronephrotic kidney, you've got to assume a
35:19
vascular cause.
35:22
All right, so this one is incredibly subtle.
35:26
The other thing I will say about the aortic dissection cases that I've seen,
35:30
of the four we had, there was only one
35:34
that was an appropriately protocoled and performed
35:38
study for the diagnosis of aortic
35:41
dissection, meaning it was in aortic phase, a
35:45
CTA of the chest with proper contrast bolusing, et
35:49
cetera. Right? In all the cases we're going to be looking at,
35:53
it's not an optimal study for aortic dissection.
35:56
So here's the warning. That's not a defense.
36:01
It doesn't matter. The radiologists go crazy over this.
36:05
They say, "Well, it's not a CTA. The contrast bolus wasn't
36:09
optimally timed. It was a study of the neck or a routine
36:13
of the abdomen pelvis, for that matter." Doesn't matter.
36:16
If the aorta is on the images, you need to look at it.
36:20
And I consider the aorta to be the greatest risk to any given
36:24
patient in both traumatic and atraumatic
36:28
cases. So look at that aorta every single time, and it does not
36:31
matter if the study was optimally protocoled to show you
36:36
an aortic dissection.
36:38
So an incrediblySubtle dissection here.
36:41
The more you look, the more you see, though.
36:43
It's basically on every single slice, and you can
36:47
even, once you start to appreciate it, see it waving in the
36:51
systolic breeze. And we'll look at a magnified view of that so
36:55
you can get a better idea of it. So in this one, I did
36:58
have to actually parse out some of the dictation because it
37:02
was so long. And that's another warning I have
37:06
for you. When you find yourself going on and on and on,
37:10
describing findings without attributing the appropriate
37:14
significance to them, stop yourself, because you are making
37:18
notes but not music.
37:21
And you're probably missing something in the big picture.
37:24
My dad was a lawyer, and his favorite phrase was, "The truth
37:28
is infinitely compressible." If you are looking at a
37:32
straightforward finding and you're attributing the right significance to it, you
37:36
get very succinct, if not laconic, in your description
37:40
of it. If you find yourself going on and on like this, something is
37:44
wrong. In fact, this radiologist still was
37:48
concerned over this, still dissatisfied, and so he went
37:52
and issued an addendum that's as verbose as
37:56
his initial report. But in all cases, he just doubles
38:00
down for some unknown reason on the left kidney being
38:04
the abnormal one, and it clearly is not.
38:08
All right, so we dinged him in a report review for not citing
38:12
comparisons and for hedging. That's the on and on phenomenon.
38:17
So this patient came in at 1:00 PM with left flank pain.
38:21
They did a routine contrasted abdomen pelvis CT,
38:25
and maybe the flank pain history is why the radiologist was
38:28
so concentrated on potential of a
38:32
stone or a recently passed stone. So this happened in the
38:36
week between Christmas and New Year's Eve, and therefore, no final
38:40
overread was even issued. And then the patient died about
38:43
36 hours later in front of his wife and small daughters
38:47
on New Year's Eve.
38:49
The estimated verdict was $5 to 7 million, chance of success,
38:53
60, apportioned liability only 25%,
38:57
and the estimated settlement came in at 5 to $700,000.
39:01
And as you can see, our indemnity was just slightly higher at 850.
39:06
So here is the mag view on that, and I'll let that run a couple
39:10
of times so you can see that flap
39:13
clearly present throughout the entirety of the
39:17
abdominal aorta.
39:23
So that's a scary one. But the fact that it's not protocoled for arterial
39:26
phase, that it's not thin-section for CTA,
39:30
not a defense. If it's present on the images, you are
39:34
going down for it.
39:37
So the deposition testimony, we had devastating
39:41
testimony from the wife and daughters. He was a perfect husband and father.
39:45
The damages were heavily weighted by lost wage and loss of
39:48
consortium. So loss of consortium used to be a legal
39:52
term that referred specifically to sexual congress, so
39:57
groin injuries and the like, where a patient could no longer
40:00
enjoy said with their
40:04
mate. That was what
40:07
loss of consortium typically used to mean.
40:09
Its definition has been broadened significantly
40:13
in previous decades to now include interpersonal
40:17
interaction of any kind, with family members, friends,
40:21
all of those sorts of things. So,
40:24
that is a significant change over time.
40:28
We did get a positive comment that there was an intelligence, experienced, and
40:32
well-spoken radiologist. You'd be surprised, or maybe not,
40:36
how infrequently you see that kind of thing.
40:39
And then lastly, New Hampshire is trending more toward plaintiffs but has
40:42
traditionally been the most conservative of the New England states.
40:45
I did my internal medicine at Dartmouth, and I can definitely tell you that
40:49
is the case. They are the live free or die state in New
40:53
England.
40:56
All right, let's look at another aortic dissection.
40:59
This is another one, and again, you'll see all of these cases
41:03
are not optimally protocoled or performed for the
41:06
identification of aortic dissection.
41:09
So this patient actually had a history of a
41:12
previous aortic laceration, which had been surgically
41:16
repaired. So kind of like a cat in having
41:20
multiple lives, although they clearly ran out at this
41:23
point.
41:25
So this is a non-contrast study of the neck.
41:29
And again, not optimal for aortic dissection, but you can
41:33
clearly see it. Even on the non-contrast, you can see it in the
41:36
ascending aorta. You can see it in the arch.
41:39
There's even some sub-intimal clot in the
41:43
posterior aspect of the arch right there.
41:47
So it is undoubtedly visible, even though it's clearly not an optimal
41:51
study. All right, so in terms of the report grade,
41:55
this got a 10 out of 10. I remember this radiologist very well.
41:59
She's retired now, but she was an outstanding
42:02
radiologist. And you can see her major miss
42:05
rate was about half that of the practice average.
42:10
All right, so this patient came in at 3:00 PM with neck
42:14
and jaw pain
42:16
and died at 2:00 AM before additional testing could be
42:20
performed.
42:22
The initial demand was $18 million.
42:26
Okay, so the initial demands in these cases, they come
42:30
in with the initial claim, a
42:33
declaration of intent to sue, and they will throw out
42:37
these crazy numbers. And radiologists call
42:41
me all the time and say, "Oh my god, there's an initial demand of $100
42:43
million."That never happens.
42:47
Sometimes a jury award will even be given on that level,
42:52
but it never actually comes to fruition.
42:54
You don't have a million dollars. The insurance companies don't have a million
42:58
dollars, $100 million, sorry.
43:01
And it really is all for show. And these initial
43:05
demands are just legal posturing to scare
43:08
everybody into submission. Right?
43:11
So, people ask me all the time, "How do I get medical malpractice
43:15
insurance to cover me for those 100 million runaway jury
43:18
verdicts?" And the answer is you can't.
43:21
You could never pay the premiums to get that level of coverage.
43:25
You're just going to have to take your licks when it comes to crazy
43:29
runaway jury verdicts like those.
43:31
And again, they rarely come to fruition.
43:33
Even if a jury hands down a verdict like that, it
43:37
generally gets negotiated down after that.
43:42
And I will add, your personal assets are never at risk.
43:46
That's what medical malpractice insurance is for.
43:50
So I've had older radiologists call and say, "Oh, I've got to retire now because
43:53
I'm afraid I'll be sued and lose my house." That never
43:57
happens. You have to literally be criminally, not just
44:01
negligent, but actually bent on the demise of your
44:05
patient to a criminal degree before your
44:08
personal assets are at any kind of risk in a medical
44:12
malpractice proceeding. Right? You have to be the kind of doctor that they
44:16
make miniseries about,
44:19
to get to that level. So don't worry about that, don't worry about
44:22
initial demands, and don't worry about runaway jury verdicts.
44:27
The bottom line is, no matter what the initial demand is,
44:31
that plaintiff is eventually going to come in at what's called a
44:35
policy limit demand, and that's what the settlement will
44:39
be for.
44:40
All right. So initial demand, crazy.
44:43
The estimated verdict, we put at $1 to $2 million.
44:47
Chance of success, 30. Apportioned liability was 60.
44:52
Financial indiscretion on the part of the plaintiff.
44:56
This
44:57
patient actually lived a profligate
45:01
lifestyle, had immense gambling debts,
45:05
and owned a house that was worth less than its mortgage.
45:10
And so due to his financial indiscretions, the judge
45:14
up front ruled that there would be a 25% reduction
45:18
in any indemnity given to him because for all
45:22
that the medical-legal system exists to
45:25
act as a safety net for the uninsured or under-insured, right,
45:29
patients with terrible outcomes, they tend to get awards even
45:33
if uninsured. Right?
45:36
Just because who else is going to pay for it? Right?
45:39
So I kind of almost like that about the medical
45:42
malpractice system, but I'm pleased also to see that it's not here
45:46
to pay off your gambling debts. Right?
45:48
So there is someone out there with a functioning brain and rational
45:52
thought.
45:53
The chance of surgical success was put at only 75% as
45:57
well. And again, this is somewhat rare to see that incorporated
46:01
into the reasoning, but it was nice to see.
46:04
Therefore, the estimated settlement came in at $4 to $500,000, and you can
46:08
see we ended up paying $400,000 here.
46:12
So the commentary from the deposition, the plaintiff family is incapable
46:16
of saving, mortgage value higher than house value, patient lifespan
46:20
adjusted down for smoking and obesity.
46:23
And that would reduce your indemnity because they base the indemnities
46:26
on your potential lost years of life and potential
46:30
earnings.
46:32
Surgical correction, again, at 75% likelihood.
46:35
The one interesting thing was the referring physicians did take
46:38
deposition shots at the radiologist, and one suggested
46:42
that a CT of the neck without contrast is a perfectly
46:46
adequate study for excluding aortic dissection.
46:49
So it's pretty clear people will say anything when being deposed,
46:54
and for the most part, the other doctors at the table are
46:58
not your friends.
47:02
All right. So our last aortic dissection.
47:05
Again, there are findings that should have triggered a
47:09
more intensive search for an aortic dissection.
47:12
You can see again, this is one that's not optimally protocoled.
47:16
This is a CTA for pulmonary embolism, so there's barely any
47:20
contrast in the aorta itself. But look at all the
47:24
additional findings you've got. There's prevascular
47:27
mediastinal stranding right there.
47:30
Clearly, you have to describe that.
47:32
There is disparate contrast density in that ascending
47:36
aorta. You can see there's a dissection there.
47:39
And there's a hyperdense pericardial fluid collection that can only
47:43
be a hemopericardium. If you see a pericardial fluid collection that
47:47
dense, you need to think hemopericardium, and you need to go look at the
47:51
aorta because aortic dissections that get down to the root,
47:55
they're within the pericardial sac due to the high extension of the
47:59
superior pericardial recess. So it's a common complication
48:03
of aortic dissection that you'll get a hemopericardium, and all of
48:07
these findings should have triggered these thoughts in the radiologist's
48:10
mind. You can even see there's probably early tamponade
48:14
because you've got so much IVC and hepatic venous backflow here.
48:19
All right. So this was read as a small to moderate pericardial
48:22
effusion
48:24
and nothing else. Got a nine out of ten, failing only on
48:28
recommendations for follow-up.
48:32
So this patient came to the ER with chest pain.
48:36
A CT of the neck was performed 10 days later for neuro
48:39
symptoms at which the dissection was identified, but the
48:43
patient could not be saved. They did operate, but he died
48:47
post-operativelySo the initial demand, again, over the
48:51
top, $9 million. The estimated verdict came in at $5
48:55
million with a chance of success being 40, apportion
48:59
liability of 45.
49:01
The estimated settlement therefore came in at $1 million.
49:04
So we had a demand on the table for $1.4 million
49:09
and our defense counsel, actually the
49:12
ill-advised parent company, had said, "We're going to the
49:16
mattresses on this. We want to defend it." And
49:20
I, of course, was vocal in opposition to that,
49:24
but I remember very well, I had my bags packed.
49:27
I was flying to Santa Fe at 6:00 a.m.
49:31
the next morning, and I got a call at 5:30 a.m.
49:35
and they said, "Cancel your flight.
49:36
We settled." So that's known as settling on the courthouse
49:40
steps, and it's a frequent occurrence.
49:43
So I was all ready to go
49:46
in spite of my better judgment.
49:49
All right. So the findings were missed repeatedly on multiple
49:53
studies, and asymmetric pulses were noted on clinical exam.
49:57
The finding was missed by the defendant's expert, so that's
50:01
always helpful. The defendant's surgical expert, again,
50:04
unusually predicted a 25% to 40% operative
50:08
mortality.
50:09
The opposing counsel is established, well-respected, and successful.
50:14
I actually was deposed by this guy, and I have to say that is a very
50:17
accurate description. He was a silver fox, and
50:21
he actually brought home to me the important rule of
50:25
depositions, which is answer the question and do not go on
50:29
and on. And I, at this point, was pretty well
50:33
coached up for depositions, so I would answer the question and stop.
50:37
One sentence is what you should limit yourself to when answering
50:41
deposition questions. And every time I stopped talking,
50:45
he would go like this. And it was clear he was used to
50:48
drawing out more self-indictment from witnesses.
50:52
And it really brought home to me the
50:56
quality of the coaching I had received, which was just answer the question and no
51:00
more.
51:01
The radiologist acknowledged the error and was a reluctant witness.
51:04
This brings up an important point.
51:07
I have radiologists screaming at me all the time saying,
51:11
"I did nothing wrong. It was the wrong study. It was the wrong protocol.
51:14
It had no contrast. They didn't give me reformats," whatever the
51:18
case may be. They always want to go to trial.
51:22
It's professional pride, personal pride, what have you.
51:25
They always want to go to trial. But you saw the numbers.
51:28
Going to trial is exceedingly rare, and it's not going to
51:32
happen if there's the slightest incongruity in
51:36
the whole
51:38
case.
51:39
So you really, interestingly, that's
51:43
not a right of the radiologist to demand that it go to
51:46
trial. In most medical malpractice insurance agreements,
51:50
it's the insurance company that gets to determine the final
51:54
outcome as to whether or not it's settled or goes to trial.
51:57
The radiologist has no voice in that matter whatsoever.
52:01
So most of these people are just screaming into the void because
52:05
it's not a right that they actually have.
52:08
So you don't have the right to insist that your case go to
52:12
trial. However,
52:15
if you want to make it so that your case does not go to trial,
52:20
that's easy. You can sandbag it. You can go into your deposition and
52:24
say, "There it is. I see it now. I should have seen it.
52:27
It's present on the images." If you go in and do that,
52:31
they're never going to take it to trial.
52:33
They're not going to put that radiologist on the stand. Okay?
52:37
So you don't have the right to force trial, but you
52:41
can, through your own efforts, or just honesty for that matter,
52:45
make it so that your case never goes to trial.
52:51
All right. Let's look at a couple ischemic bowels.
52:53
They break down into two basic groups,
52:57
bariatric surgery
52:59
and thromboembolism. Okay? So in
53:02
bariatric surgeries, here is my advice.
53:05
Whenever you see those gastric staples,
53:08
make sure that that study is done with oral and intravenous contrast.
53:13
In this particular case I'm showing, intravenous contrast would've been the
53:16
telltale
53:18
act that would've made this diagnosable.
53:21
But the bariatric surgery patients, they tend to
53:25
obstruct and perforate and have staple line dehiscence, and on and
53:29
on. The list of complications is massive.
53:32
And so oral and intravenous contrast for every one of
53:36
these patients, and make it a hard and fast recommendation.
53:41
So you can see here, actually, this radiologist actually
53:44
complained in his deposition that, "Oh, well, they didn't say anything about a
53:48
history of bariatric surgery." Well, don't say that.
53:51
You'll sound like an idiot. It's very clear that there are gastric
53:55
staples here, and the previous history of bariatric
53:59
surgery could not be more obvious.
54:02
All right. So no evidence of bowel obstruction, et cetera.
54:06
No description of the potential for mesenteric
54:10
volvulus and ischemic damage. I want to also point out here,
54:14
masses in the solid abdominal organs can be missed without intravenous
54:18
contrast. Boilerplate disclaimers are worthless.
54:22
Something like that does you no good whatsoever.
54:26
So if you're throwing those out, "Oh, acute ischemic changes can't be
54:29
identified in 24 to 48 hours on a non-contrast head CT."
54:34
Worthless. It's worthless. Nobody will ever point at that and say,
54:37
"Oh, but this disclaimer should get our radiologist off."
54:41
The reason it's worthless is you don't make a specific
54:44
recommendation. Okay? If you really feel like the
54:48
lack of intravenous contrast is hampering your diagnostic
54:52
accuracy, then you have to sayI recommend this
54:56
study be repeated with oral and intravenous contrast.
54:59
If you put that in, that holds up. If you make a
55:03
specific recommendation that the referring clinician does not carry through
55:07
with, that will aid in your defense.
55:12
All right. So this is a swirl sign, is the bottom line.
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And when we talk swirl sign, we don't mean bowel, we mean vessels.
55:20
Right? And the swirl sign, look at them spinning over one another there,
55:24
is probably the most specific finding in
55:27
post-bariatric patients for vascular compromise.
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So it's a very important finding to make.
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This report did not do very well,
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didn't address clinical concern, full of disclaimers, didn't have
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recommendations. See the intelligence behind our grading system.
55:45
All right, so this patient came in with severe abdominal pain.
55:48
Read as no bowel obstruction. Returned three days later
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with necrotic bowel requiring excision.
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Hospitalized for six weeks. Now has short gut and is
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TPN dependent. And that's why abdominal pelvic
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CT scan,
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medical malpractice indemnities are so expensive.
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These patients,
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they're usually younger. They end up with needs for long-term
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care that are extremely expensive.
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Estimated verdict, $5 to 10 million. Chance of success, 40%.
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Lots of people named, six defendants, so apportioned liability was only
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17%, and the estimated verdict came in at 500 to
56:28
1 million. They were way low because this indemnity ultimately
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was 1.3 million.
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So in our favor, the discharge summary was cut and pasted,
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giving the impression of inattention by the hospitalist.
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The referring was a bit evasive and did not make a great appearance
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as a witness. Too bad. They can drag you down even if
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it's not your own testimony that was suboptimal.
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All right.
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Our last one, thromboembolism. In thromboembolism cases,
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yet again, there's always an indication that thromboembolism has
57:06
occurred, usually in the form of a wedge-shaped, hypodense,
57:10
subcapsular kidney or splenic lesion. Right?
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So you guys saw my trauma lecture before.
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When you see those in a trauma, go find the vessel laceration that caused
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it. When you see them in a non-trauma,
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look at the superior mesenteric artery because this patient had
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an upstream, either aortic or cardiac source,
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thromboembolic shower.
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And so when you see these lesions in the kidney or
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spleen, you need to go and look at the SMA because the SMA
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is a magnet for thromboembolism. It's got the right
57:46
orientation, it's aided by gravity, it's high flow, and the
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consequences of acute occlusion of the SMA are
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devastating. And you can see it right here.
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Right? But there are the renal lesions that should have been called.
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So look at this report. Talk about going on and
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on and on.
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Notes but no music. Look at that. It just
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doesn't seem to end. In fact, it never does because
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this radiologist ended his report with the word et
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cetera, the abbreviation, et cetera. Can you believe it?
58:22
As though that hadn't been enough.
58:25
So this was a prelim, and the next day,
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so this got the lowest score of five out of 10.
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Bad typos, no structure, no comparisons, plenty
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of hedging, and lots of disclaimers.
58:38
So the next day, the on-site clinician comes in
58:42
and issues a similar final report and misses all the same
58:46
relevant findings. I think these two should probably share a
58:50
jail cell.
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And look at that. As a last thought, a parting shot,
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he says, "Oh, there are a couple wedge-shaped areas of diminished profusion,"
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diffusion, or sorry, profusion, "but suggestive of
59:05
small infarcts." Well, he failed to put it all together.
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Failed to look at the SMA even after saying something like that.
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All right, so this patient came in for a hernia repair.
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The final read did note the renal abnormalities, but not the SMA.
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She was treated for a post-op myocardial infarct.
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Two additional CTs failed to identify it, and
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finally,
59:30
an emergency laparotomy revealed ischemic bowel.
59:33
So the estimated verdict was 1.5, chance of success 51,
59:37
apportioned liability 25%, and the estimated settlement,
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625 global, of which we ended up paying 200.
59:47
So this matter is
59:49
in a rural area in Illinois. The rural aspects of Illinois tend
59:53
to be conservative. The decedent worked at Sunset Lakes
59:57
Resort. She was paid in cash and credit toward discounted camping
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costs. It's really kind of sad, but they look at your
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earnings, and they actually compute how much lost
60:09
life you had and how much you would likely have earned during that time,
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and that's how they partially calculate these indemnities.
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And she also worked as a Mary Kay cosmetics consultant, which we all know is a
60:20
pyramid scheme.
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All right, so multiple people actually missed this,
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and then the only negative aspect is the plaintiff's expert apparently did
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identify it.
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All right, so that is our run-through.
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I do want to run our takeaways. There's our 35
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diagnostic errors,
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and in the 10 communication issues.
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Ah, here we go. Here are our takeaways.
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So what did we learn?
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Always communicate critical findings through multiple channels.
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You need to call on critical findings, and the example of lobar
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pneumonia, I think is the most important thereDo
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not rely on preliminary status of a read as any kind of defense.
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Half of the time, the next guy is going to miss it too.
61:13
Get oral and IV contrast on all post-bariatric
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surgeries.
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Beware that long and rambling report, an indication you've
61:22
made multiple findings but aren't putting things together into a unifying
61:26
diagnosis. Beware that total reversal phenomena,
61:31
meningitis in the spine, marrow
61:34
infiltration on MSK studies, global
61:37
hypoxia in neonates. Those are the MR studies that tend to
61:41
do that to you.
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Job one is the aorta. Evaluate the aorta vigilantly, no matter what the
61:48
circumstances. Contrast, non-contrast, CTA, routine,
61:52
neck, abdomen, whatever it is. If the aorta is on your
61:55
images, you need to look at it, and carefully.
61:59
All right. And lastly, adhere to your established anatomic search pattern for
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every procedure type. I can't emphasize this enough.
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I spent a decade on the VRAD Quality Assurance Committee, and I came
62:11
away fully convinced that 90% of all
62:14
radiologic error is due to failure to adhere to an
62:18
established, methodical, regimented, repeatable
62:22
search pattern. So that's how you should proceed with every one of
62:25
these cases that you read.
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All right, folks, I will stop there, and we may have a little time for
62:32
questions, so I'll turn things back over to Ashley.
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Awesome. Thank you so much for that really in-depth and informative
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lecture, Dr. Strong. We have a question in the Q&A
62:44
box and then a couple in the chat that I can
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read to you if you'd like.
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Sure.
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All right, so there's one. Let me see.
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"How
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do juries justify and work
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out giving such high amounts, such as tens of millions?"
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Pulling at their heartstrings.
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Perfect.
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The simple answer there. We go in with very objective assessments.
63:14
In fact, I often joke that it's the only productive work
63:18
economists are ever called on to perform.
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Mostly, they just theorize and are wrong.
63:25
But the one actual job they do is they come in on these medical
63:29
malpractice cases and they calculate lost earnings.
63:32
They calculate from actuarial data what the likely lifespan
63:36
of that patient would've been, what their earnings would've been, what their
63:40
investment returns might've been, and that is a big part
63:44
of how they calculate the actual
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indemnities. But the plaintiff lawyers
63:51
try and escalate that, take that to a much higher level
63:54
by emotional appeals, basically.
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Pain and suffering, loss of consortium.
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Those are all things that are harder to quantify, and
64:03
therefore, they're the ones that the plaintiff attorneys like to play with the
64:07
most.
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Great answer.
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Any advice for pediatric radiology?
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Oof. Get out.
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Pediatric radiology is a particular risk.
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They are the obstetricians of
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radiology.
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Because any pediatric case, typically,
64:31
most states have a two-year statute of limitations, two years from the
64:35
time either that the event occurred or the time that the patient was
64:38
aware that the malpractice occurred. That varies state by state.
64:43
But for pediatrics,
64:46
that two-year statute of limitations begins at the
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time the patient turns 18. And so,
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I guess, be all the more vigilant because your risk is far
64:58
greater. There's no doubt.
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Another great answer. Can you clarify more regarding the disclaimers?
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For example, stroke cannot be ruled out on CT, as this is a clinical diagnosis.
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Is there genuinely no role for them?
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Yeah. They are not helpful. The only role
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I see for disclaimers like that are basically to
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help with the education of mid-level providers.
65:26
We've got a lot more nurse practitioners, physicians assistants
65:30
working in the role of the referring clinician, and they're
65:34
not as steeped in medical knowledge, and especially around issues
65:38
like this, that a stroke can be negative for 24, 48 hours on
65:42
a CT scan. They don't necessarily know those things.
65:45
So it depends on the referring clinician population that you're working with.
65:50
That might be helpful here and there to say, "Hey, by
65:54
the way, you're not going to see an acute stroke on a head CT without
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contrast."
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That's the only way that I see them being helpful.
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And ultimately, you could argue, if you avoid a
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devastating outcome, you're probably going to avoid a
66:10
medical malpractice case. You may have noticed you wouldn't want to switch
66:14
places with any of these patients in spite of the
66:17
relatively large indemnities that were awarded.
66:22
There is a devastating outcome. It's almost a prerequisite for there
66:26
being a med mal case of any size. And so
66:30
anything you can do to avoid that devastating outcome, just by
66:34
definition, will reduce your medical malpractice risk.
66:37
So if you're dealing with mid-level providers and they probably need a little
66:41
additional education on certain aspects of
66:45
imaging sensitivity or specificity, if you're using it in that
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capacity, fine. That makes perfect sense to me.
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However, I see people pointing at those disclaimers all the time and saying,
66:56
"But I have that disclaimer." Again, if it's not associated with
67:00
a specific recommendation, it is worthless in the
67:04
med mal world.
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Great. Thank you so much for answering that. I think we'll wrap there.
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So we appreciate you coming back on and doing this really
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in-depth review.
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Absolutely. It was a pleasure to be here as always, Ashley.
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Yeah.
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67:25
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