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Sun Mi cha for an update on imaging and 2021 W H O C N
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SS tumor classification. Dr.
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Cha completed her neuroradiology fellowship at New York University Medical
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Center.
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She's a neuroradiologist with special interest in expertise in brain tumor
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imaging at University of California San Francisco Medical Center,
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Okay, great. Well, thank you so much for having me today. Um,
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hello everyone out there.
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I'm going to talk about some brain tumor imaging in the context of
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W H O C N SS tumor classification. I don't have anything to disclose.
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So objective today is to,
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I'm going to highlight couple of key points from the 2021 W H O C N SS tumor
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classification and really morph that into how is that
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relevant to neural radiologist or general radiologists who are looking at brain
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MRIs or spine MRIs for patients with brain tumor.
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And I'm going to just illustrate some of the correlation of molecular genetic
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markers in terms of what are you looking for on imaging?
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'cause we are non neuropathologists, we're not basic biologists,
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but we must keep abreast with this explosive knowledge coming from the
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biological side because it does have implication for imaging.
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So the three things that I'm going to highlight is W H O C N SS
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classification and neuroimaging techniques that most of you are very familiar
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with,
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but put that in the context of the molecular generic era of brain tumors.
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And then I'm just gonna show you, uh, case by case how things are relevant.
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Imaging and neuropathology neuro molecular genetics are intertwined.
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So first, let's start with C N S who classification.
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So some of you are already familiar that World Health Organization has
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been supporting, uh, classification of not just brain tumors,
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but all tumors for c n s tumors.
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The first version came out back in 1979 and 2000 up
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to 2007. And the one,
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these four classification schemes were purely based on histological.
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And then something magical or something, uh,
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really groundbreaking happened in 2016 classification where
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molecular genetic information became part of the official
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classification system.
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So no longer just the histopathologic features of tumor was used
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to classify tumor. Now there's this very,
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very advanced technique looking at molecular genetics,
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but more interesting to us radiologists, it's the,
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for the first time ever since 1979,
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M R I image made it to the cover of this book.
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And then fast forward five years later,
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2021 W H O classification, the fifth edition was published.
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And you could see that now we have two M r I images.
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So imaging is now really gaining attention to our
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neuropathologic, our neuropathology and neurobiology colleagues.
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That imaging plays a such an important role of how we actually look at tumors.
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So we are well on our way to becoming a very important,
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we were already were,
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but now we are pushing towards being part of the classification of c n
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s tumors. So
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the nutshell of W H O 2021 is that there are molecular markers everywhere.
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And this is the cartoon I made, and it seems like it's,
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we are just touching the tip of the iceberg. And these,
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these are some of the idea, um,
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molecular markers that are part of now ordinary conversation in tumor board.
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But there are actually many, many more to come and they're already here.
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And next version of, uh, C N SS classification,
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which will be coming in maybe five to seven years,
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we are going to see even more. So what does this mean for radiologists?
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We just have to make sure that we know what is changing the field
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of classification of c n s tumors so that we could keep up with,
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uh, how we interpret imaging.
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So here's the nutshell of C N S U.
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There are so many molecular markers and we're gonna,
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I'm only gonna touch on the several really important ones, uh,
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today and at U C S F, uh,
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instead of just getting a histopathological report, we get something like this.
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This is called U C S F 500 gene panel,
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where we actually get not just a histological diagnosis,
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but we get I D H status. But in addition to that,
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we get whole host of additional information and this is really becoming
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a part of our standard of care for brain tumor, uh,
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pathological diagnosis.
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So I'm gonna show you a couple of cases and we'll go over this at the end. Uh,
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you may not know the answer now, but I could assure you at the end of this, uh,
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50 minute talk, you'll be an expert at it. So here's a young, um,
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19 year old came with a diagnosis of stroke because of the A D C
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and D W I appearance and end up having these molecular features
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when pathology was performed. Can you think of tumor type? This could be
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second case. Here are three different, very different histologic tumor types,
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pilocytic astrocytoma, ganglio glioma,
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and pleomorphic anthro astrocytoma.
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Can you think of a molecular marker that these three tumors
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often, not always, but often share. So what is the molecular marker?
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Third, here's a tumor with very interesting appearing calcification.
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Does not enhance. Has this heterogeneous T two and diffusion abnormality,
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can you think of a genetic marker that defines this tumor?
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How about this one? Here are, uh,
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six different patients with a large midline tumor.
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All pediatric patients. Can you think about,
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think of a diagnosis and a molecular marker that all these six different
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patients share. And how about this one patient?
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Two different patients with an extra axial tumor kind of look like
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meningioma, but they do not have the typical dural tail.
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This one looks very destructive.
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Can you think of a molecular marker that can, um,
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unify these two at very different type?
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But now we know that they're very related. How about this one,
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two different patients with posterior fossa, append omas.
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Do you know the molecular genetic difference between the patient up at the top
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versus patient up at the bottom?
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And here are four different patients with four different types of
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medulloblastoma.
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Can you name the four main subtypes of medulloblastomas?
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So we will go over the answer at the end of this talk. So, imaging,
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uh, neuroimaging of 2023.
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Still the most important technique is the structural m r
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i.
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We cannot interpret physiologic or any other fancier imaging
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technique without actually seeing what the tumor looks like on structural
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imaging.
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But we also do physiology based m r i to assess where their
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vascularity their metabolism. And another very important, uh,
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type of technique that we use is this hybrid imaging called PET CT or PetMR.
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And many institutions are beginning to use this technique to look at
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is this a recurrent tumor or is this a radiation necrosis?
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So today I'm only going to highlight couple of the structural and couple of
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physiologic M R I. And as I said before,
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structural m r i post con precon, T one,
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T two flare multimodality multiplanar imaging.
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This is the bread and butter of what we do. And this will never go away,
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but we put additional tests to look for hyper
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vascularity, whether they're leaky VA permeability,
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and whether there is a hyper cellularity or where there's high
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choline metabolism. So physiologic,
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M R I gives us a lot of insight into very non-invasive
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way of gland, um, glancing at their tumor biology.
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It's not as good as obviously actually looking at pathology,
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but it's a really powerful non-invasive tool.
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And this is what we do at U C S F and it's pretty standard at most institution.
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Pre post T one,
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T two F S C flare and D W I and a D, C, uh, D uh,
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a D, C and dwi. This is a must. And we also do, uh,
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s w i and a s l perfusion imaging.
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S w i is becoming more and more important in brain tumor imaging because we
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use this primarily to look for areas of blood products,
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especially after radiation therapy.
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And we use this for assessing where the,
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the extent of micro and macro hemorrhages and also vascular lesions that are,
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uh, mimicking brain tumors and primarily in the brain tumor arena.
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We use this to assess for the extent of radiotherapy, uh,
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related injuries.
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So here are three different patients with susceptibility weighted imaging.
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You could see this patient as literally innumerable punctate dots of
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susceptibility or micro hemorrhage.
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This is a patient who received whole brain radiotherapy for
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medulloblastoma 15 years prior.
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Here's a patient with very peculiar looking branching pattern of ss. W i.
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This is a person with a vitis.
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This whole thing was removed and it's not glioblastoma.
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This is a ven neuritis or veins that are partially thromboses.
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And this is a patient with hyper, um, very clear,
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large vascular mass. And that's cavernous malformation. So SS w i, very helpful.
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Here's an example that we saw at tumor where patient had a, a re enhancing,
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very aggressive looking, right? Brachial pontus mass in the posterior fossa.
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But if you look at patients SS w i,
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there are new innumerable punctate micro hemorrhages.
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This is a telltale sign that patient probably had a radiation therapy.
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And lo and behold,
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we got the history after the fact that patient had on nasopharyngeal
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carcinoma and a tumor that were radiated twice
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before. Uh, we did not have the radiation field.
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But with that history and with that S W I appearance,
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we feel very comfortable calling this radiation necrosis.
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And patient was treated for steroids to control some of the edema related mass
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effect and paid this lesion slowly, uh, disappeared.
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D w i very important sequence. We use this to, uh,
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assess for acute infarct, abscess, cellular tumor,
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and uh, actively demyelinating lesion. So here are three different patients.
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Here's the D W I imaging without even looking at structural imaging.
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When you see this homogeneous in, uh,
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reduced diffusion with an irregular mass like this,
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this is a intracranial abscess until proven otherwise.
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Here's a patient, you can barely make it out.
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The lesion on D W I kind of disappears.
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This is what diffuse glioma looks like on, uh, diffusion.
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Here's a patient with two lesions, have a leading edge, reduced diffusion.
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This is pretty classic for non neoplastic,
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usually inflammatory, uh,
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actively demyelinating type of lesion. And this young, uh,
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patient was biopsied and that's a tumor effective demyelinating lesion.
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So diffusion is a must sequence when you're interpreting a brain brain
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mass. Here's another example.
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This patient came to us with a preoperative diagnosis from elsewhere,
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right? Frontal glioblastoma. I think that's not a bad diagnosis.
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There's a lots of mass effect.
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There's edema crossing the corpus callosum with central necrosis ri
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of enhancement. But once you see the D W I and a d c,
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you know that there's homogeneous reduced diffusion within end necrotic tumor.
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So that is a very unusual appearance of a glioblastoma.
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So this is more classic appearance for biogenic abscess.
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And indeed pathology proved that this is genic abscess.
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Our surgeons going in knew that this was going to be a puss
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'cause we told them and they end up just doing a little bur hole and sucking
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that puss out. And patient did great.
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Here's a young woman that I showed a little bit earlier. This, uh,
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young woman was diagnosed with stroke at an outside hospital and you could see
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why, why?
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Because there is actual homogeneously reduced diffusion and
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it's very dark on a d c.
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But I think most of you would also notice that that shape is not a good,
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good, uh, shape for a territorial infarct. But nonetheless,
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patient was fine. The workup was negative,
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was transferred to our hospital and patient underwent surgery.
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And this is a hyper hypercellular,
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unfortunately what's called a molecular glioblastoma
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perfusion. We use it to look for hyper vascularity hypervascular tumors.
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We also use perfusion for,
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to detect recurrent tumor assessed for glioma grade and sometimes
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postictal changes.
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Here's a patient who came to us with a homogeneously
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enhancing right cerebellar mass.
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And you could see that D W I is not reduced.
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There's a little bit of a rim of susceptibility, but not much else.
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So the question is, is this a metastasis or something else?
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Patient did undergo whole body workup and there was no mass.
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And if you add a s l perfusion,
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you could see that the whole lesion is very,
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very vascular in the cerebellum.
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And this is pretty classic appearance for a heman glioblastoma.
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And that's indeed what it was on pathology.
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Here's a person who's been coming to us for, um,
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serial imaging after patient had a subtotal resection.
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But you could see here that we don't know where the recurrent tumor here is.
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Patient had a seizure, they controlled the seizure.
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So after they controlled the seizure,
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we brought the patient back and did a profusion imaging and you could see that
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there is a clear unmistakable lump of hyper vascularity
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associated with non mass like flare here.
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So our neurosurgical colleagues went in and resected this, uh,
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hyperperfusion area.
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And the whole thing was a live recurrent diffuse glioma,
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i d h wild type spectroscopy.
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We use this tool now as a problem solving tool.
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Here is a normal single of oxil spectroscopy,
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normal n a a creatine and colon.
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This is what you wanna see.
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And we've done many, many spectroscopy studies,
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both two D uh, single voxel, two D and three D.
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But I still find this single voxel very powerful.
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And here's an example of some of our patients, um,
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that we did on spectroscopy. Oh, by the way,
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a single voxel only requires about less than three minute of imaging.
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So it's a really powerful tool that does not take up much in terms of
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additional imaging.
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And we've now kind of developed four different types of
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spectroscopic appearance of an abnormal lesion.
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So what we call the proliferative, where there's high,
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high choline hypoxic profile where there is clear lactate,
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peak infectious profile where we see amino acids,
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alanine and acetate,
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and the necrotic pattern where we see predominantly very high
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lipid and lactate.
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And here's an example of how we use this single voxel two minute of
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additional imaging.
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So this patient came to us with a left frontal glioblastoma as
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the preoperative diagnosis does look like glioblastoma with central
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necrosis. But once you get D W I,
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you know that inside of that reen enhancing lesion,
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there is a clear reduced diffusion that looks like pus.
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So we brought the patient down and with a single voxel spectroscopy
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using TE of 35 milliseconds and 2 88 milliseconds,
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and we saw all the metabolites that classically seen in
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biogenic abscess such as amino acid,
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lactate acetate, and the choline, which is not a tumor marker,
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it's a, uh, membrane turnover marker is very, very low.
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So our confidence putting the together with the diffusion that this is going to
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be a genic abscess was near 100%.
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And our neurosurgical colleagues just did a very small bur hole
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and sucked out the fluid. And lo and behold,
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there is that yellowish purulent material and this is a path proven
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genic abscess. So let me now, uh,
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focus more on the brain tumors based on the molecular genetics and I'm going to
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start with three different types of pediatric tumors and go on
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to adult tumors using the, uh, imaging techniques that I just described to you.
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So pediatric brain tumors in the W H O scheme from
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2016 to 2021, many different, um,
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classification changes have been made. The first is these two tumor types,
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one medulloblastoma, the other appendamoma.
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And you could see that without knowing anything about the tumor.
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So here's post con T one, you could see that the,
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this patient has a tumor that is relatively homogeneously reduced on
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diffusion.
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So this is going to be some type of a cellular tumor patient.
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On the other hand, this tumor both are midline enhancing lesion.
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You could see that D W I is not reduced.
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So D W I is single most helpful sequence after looking at post
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contrast imaging.
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So we already know this patient has a hypervascular,
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a hypercellular tumor and that's a mesoblast stomach.
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And this patient on the right, this is a patient with APPENDAMOMA
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and D W I is really the first step towards honing down
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into the molecular or biologic feature of their tumor.
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So let's start with medulloblastoma. Medulloblastoma.
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Now genetically are divided into four main types and
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these,
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some of you're already familiar with the wint sonic hedgehog and
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group three and group four and our colleagues from Stanford
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published this beautiful paper and this was already nine years ago,
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uh, showing the imaging difference between the four subtypes,
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the wind, the Sonic HEA group three and group four. And it turns out that,
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uh, wind type of medulloblastoma are almost always,
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um, off midline. And they're not in the fourth ventricle only.
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They almost simulate a CP angle schwannoma, that's the wind type.
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Sonic hedgehog are usually the hemispheric tumors with this
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multinodular solid component. And there's two different types of it,
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but we are only going to just mention that this is a sonic hedgehog.
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And then these are the more common pediatric babies and infants, uh,
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can get this type of tumor where the tumor is in the dead midline and
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some enhances avidly and some don't.
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And it turns out that the fourth ventricular midline tumor of
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mesoblast with avid enhancement are more likely to be grade group three.
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And the less enhancing subtype tends to be group four.
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I find this fascinating that imaging, although it's not a hundred percent,
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can give us a glas into potential genetic and
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molecular subtypes. So here's the fourth main subtypes.
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How about appendamoma? So this is an interesting tumor too.
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So most of you are familiar that usually sup tentorial
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pomas are intraparenchymal.
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The fourth ventricular or posterior fossa ones are inside the ventricle
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and the core one is in the intramedullary.
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I often wondered why we don't often see ependymomas right in the,
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in the middle of third or fourth, um, lateral ventricle.
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Most of the ependymomas supra temporally that I've seen,
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they're all in the supra tentorial, uh, parenchymal compartment.
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But then now all these uh, genetic information is coming out.
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So 2016 and 2021 w h o now are classifying
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super tentorial append omas,
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particularly in pediatric age group based on this very
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sophisticated molecular markers.
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So the relay fusion positive super tentorial append omas
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are one of the most aggressive append omas or commonly occurring in
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pediatric age group.
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And they look even worse than some of the more really aggressive
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glioblastomas. And most of these appendamoma,
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particularly the relay fusion ones that I've seen,
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they tend to be intraparenchymal.
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But then when they do recur,
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they can recur all along the dural surface.
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So their biology is very different than the typical appendamoma that I've seen.
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So there are two subtypes that the W H O has, uh,
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clearly defined in the 2021 are the relay fusion and
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yap one I have yet to see a yap one molecular altered, uh, append omas.
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But like I said before,
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the super tentorial appendamoma in a young child,
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they tend to be this very aggressive, um,
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molecular variant called relay fusion is the most common one that I've seen.
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And one thing that I wanna stress that relay appendamoma, when they do recur,
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they can recur along the dura. So please, if you're,
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if you know the molecular feature,
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please look very closely at the dural margin 'cause it may be the first
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sign of recurrence. How about intraventricular posterior fossa?
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So now we know clearly intraparenchymal, sial,
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appends and posterior fossa intraventricular appends
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are genetically molecularly completely different.
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They may look similar on histopath pathology, but they are not,
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uh, related at all in terms of molecular genetics.
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So what are the two subtypes that w h O defined in the 2021
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and the two subtypes are posterior fossa, appendamoma type A,
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posterior fossa, uh, appendamoma type B.
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So what are the type A versus type B?
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So the type A looks like this.
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They almost look like a CP angle or lower, uh,
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medullary cistern tumor going out into the foram and luka often.
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And this is called the P F A or I call it the p f
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appendamoma Asymmetric 'cause it's off to the one side.
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And this is an awful prognostic appendant and unfortunately
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much more common in pediatric age group.
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And then there's this subtype,
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the group B are the ones that sits usually in the midline,
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kind of simulate the appearance of a medulloblastoma group three because
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they are midline enhances.
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But remember append omas are not reduced on diffusion.
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And this is what I call the posterior fossa appendamoma that looks like a ball.
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But here you could see that they are actually very different.
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One is in the midline,
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one is asymmetric and it also turns out that they're very different genetically.
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So P F A I call it a stand for asymmetric
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group B, B stand for ball.
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So let's look at the tumor types a little diff um, more carefully.
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So here's group a appendamoma type,
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a asymmetric of midline and they tend to have more necrosis
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hemorrhage.
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And these are much more aggressive component and they have a unique genetic
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and molecular marker. Very different from P F A A P F B,
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excuse me. And this is much more common in pediatric age group.
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Here's the P F B group,
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more like ball shaped in the midline and not as much as
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necrosis, little less hemorrhage, the midline location.
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And this is the type of append omas that tend to occur older children or
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adult patients.
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And their main presenting symptoms they tend to present earlier because of the
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obstructive hydrocephalus and they're very rarely invasive or
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infiltrative at all compared to the P F A variant.
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So here's P F A the awful, um,
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much more prognostically worrisome type of appendamoma.
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And this unfortunately is much more common in pediatric age group.
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And they have a very specific molecular markers that are very different than
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P F B, the one that looks like a ball shaped in the midline posterior fossa.
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This is a ball shape,
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it's a better prognosis and affects adults a little bit more
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than pediatric age group.
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Now moving on to second type of tumor that pediatric patients might get is
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the diffuse midline glioma.
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So these are tumors that are disorders primarily of
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a histone.
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And I think some of you know that each human cell D n a is about 1.8 meters,
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but thanks to histone, which winds down the um,
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D N A into 90 micrometers.
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But you could see that if there is a histone related abnormality,
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it could lead to just devastating tumors like this,
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particularly the histone H three K 27 M locus
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tends to cause tumors of this gigantic midline glioma.
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So comes the name of diffuse midline glioma,
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H three K 27 M alter. So this is um,
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in 2021 version change its name and it affects these midline
29:17
structures and they look like this, uh, just terrible tumor in the midline.
29:22
Patient is sometimes very minimal symptomatically altered,
29:26
but it's a tough tumor.
29:28
Surgical resection is not a possibility because they tend to involve the deep
29:33
thalamic nuclei like this. It's just an awful tumor.
29:37
But here's the six different patients with the same awful diagnosis.
29:41
And they're all, even though histologically they may look very different,
29:46
but they have histone H three K 27 M altered
29:51
and they tend to occur in the midline and hence the name diffuse midline
29:56
glioma and some of these spinal cord tumor.
29:59
And most of them now are called a diffuse midline glioma.
30:04
Only when they could,
30:05
our pathologist can actually definitively identify the histone
30:10
alteration, particularly H three K 27 M.
30:15
And here's an example of a spinal cord.
30:18
We used to call this spinal cord astrocytoma or glioblastoma and
30:23
that's, that's not wrong.
30:25
But once they get a tissue and our pathologists look for this particular
30:30
mutation, that's how we know that this is a diffuse midline glioma.
30:34
H three K 27 M altered. Here's a patient iso,
30:38
but what does it mean for radiologists?
30:40
So we're not the one who's gonna diagnose H three K 27 M molecular
30:45
features,
30:46
but I want you to remember that these are really terrible tumors they sneak
30:51
around.
30:51
They actually can spread all along the C S F as if they are metastatic
30:57
pineoblastoma or mesoblast stomachs and keep an eye on brain.
31:02
Any lesions in the brain cannot be ignored. So let me show you,
31:06
this is one of our patient from many years ago, uh,
31:10
when we first to, uh, our pathologist start to test for the H 20,
31:15
um, H three K 27 M after radiation therapy,
31:20
our radiation oncologist did a great job. Uh,
31:23
some of these enhancing tumor looks better, the flare looks better too.
31:27
But remember this original flare imaging of the brain,
31:31
we were not sure whether this was really a real finding or is that a tumor?
31:36
But five months later you could see all of those areas are now nodular
31:42
and patient recurred. And unfortunately the real um,
31:46
down, uh,
31:48
the tumor that they couldn't control was not the spinal cord diffuse midline
31:52
glioma.
31:53
It was the C S F ependymal leptomeningeal spread of
31:58
the original tumor.
31:59
And this is how diffuse midline glioma H three K 27 M
32:04
altered tumor behave on follow-up imaging.
32:08
So please make sure you get brain imaging to make sure we don't miss this
32:13
very subtle, uh, lesions that show up on flare imaging alone.
32:17
These areas may not enhance at all
32:22
adult tumors.
32:22
I'm just gonna show you some of interesting molecularly conjoined uh,
32:27
tumor types. One is this.
32:29
So meningioma and heman cytoma back in the day when molecular genetics
32:33
was not the not a thing in terms of our daily conversation,
32:38
I used to think that meningiomas and he angio cytomas were related and
32:43
just that the heman cytomas were much more aggressive and angrier looking and
32:48
destroying the bone. And it turns out that uh,
32:51
molecular genetics have proven that these two tumors are not related at
32:56
all. But it turns out that solitary fibrous tumor,
33:01
which is a pretty rare extra axial tumor that we see,
33:04
but elsewhere in the body too,
33:06
is intimately associated with he angio cytoma
33:11
even though they look very different.
33:13
This is what's called the grade one and cytoma is grade two
33:18
or three and they are related by this particular nuclear
33:22
expression called stat six.
33:25
So W H O now lumps solitary fibers,
33:28
tumor and hagio per cytoma as a one single tumor type
33:33
with a varying degree of aggression.
33:36
So S F T is usually grade one heman cytoma
33:41
is usually grade two and three and heman cytomas can
33:46
recur anywhere else in the body.
33:48
But both these tumor types have stats six nuclear
33:52
expression and that is really needed to make the diagnosis
33:57
of SS F T and heman uh,
34:00
cytomas in the brain here, the circumscribed tumor.
34:04
And if you look at these three very different histologically tumors have a
34:08
nodule and cyst nodule and cyst nodule and assist.
34:15
These are pilocytic astrocytomas ganglio gliomas and pleomorphic
34:20
antho astrocytomas and some of the super tentorial of these
34:25
three types share a molecular marker call
34:30
B A V 600 E mutation at our institution in some of these
34:34
patients with this particular mutation,
34:37
they have a anti BRAF F therapy they're in clinical trials for and
34:42
we are getting pretty good response to therapy. There. Again,
34:47
three very different histologically but imaging wise
34:52
I always knew they kind of looked similar because they share this shape, uh,
34:56
this pattern of nodule and cyst and a lot of these super
35:01
tentorial pilocytics ganglio and PX A have B R
35:06
A F V 600 E mutation. Very interesting.
35:10
And this is a paper from more than decade ago that already looked at
35:15
over 1000 tumors, uh,
35:17
P X A pilocytic and glioma and has shown that up to 60
35:22
70% of these tumors will harbor B R A F V
35:27
600 E mutation.
35:29
So these work has been going on for decades even though it now
35:34
just made it to the 2016 and 2021 W H O,
35:39
the work has been going on for decades to come to the fruition and make it into
35:44
the classification scheme. So molecular glioblastoma,
35:48
before I talk about molecular,
35:50
let me tell you the classic glioblastomas here are eight patients that I've
35:54
known in the past have the classic central necrosis,
35:58
very aggressive irregular retinal enhancement.
36:02
These are all glioblastomas and the classic G B M
36:07
now have all these extra molecular genetic diagnosis that our
36:12
pathologist is testing for and some of them will be MG M TM
36:16
methylated. And most, some of you know the implication of M G M T,
36:20
hypermethylated G B M,
36:22
these are actually the ones that respond quite well to
36:26
temozolomide chemotherapy.
36:28
But there's all these other things that they test for.
36:31
But the unifying one is that all glioblastomas are
36:37
IDH one wild type.
36:39
So there's no more what's called the glioblastoma.
36:42
I d H mutant does not exist anymore.
36:46
All glioblastomas are I D H wild type.
36:51
Now what is molecular glioblastoma?
36:54
These have a genetic mutation. The three component here,
36:58
TER promoter mutation, E G F R, gene amplification,
37:02
trisomy seven and MONOSOMY 10.
37:04
And on imaging they do not look like the classic glioblastoma I just
37:09
showed you. Uh,
37:10
this is the 19 year old who was originally uh,
37:14
misdiagnosed as a stroke. If you look at her post con imaging,
37:18
it does not enhance at all. And on D W I,
37:22
it has really hyperintensity D W I signal intensity
37:27
and very low A D C.
37:30
This is a path proven molecular glioblastoma with these
37:35
three molecular alterations. TURT promoter, E G F R,
37:40
trisomy seven and monosomy 10. And this is new.
37:44
This is a separate tumor, but nonetheless,
37:47
molecular glioblastoma are just as aggressive as classic
37:53
glioblastoma. And this young lady who uh,
37:58
received T P A and cerebral angiogram looking for a source of stroke elsewhere
38:03
came to us. This was resected. This is a molecular glioblastoma,
38:08
but if you look down,
38:10
patient has a second focus of additional tumor and this
38:15
is really bad news. Additional lesion.
38:18
And that is the lesion that turns five months later into a frank
38:22
glioblastoma. And this is a terrible prognostic uh,
38:27
situation.
38:28
Diffuse gliomas not to be confused with diffused midline gliomas.
38:33
Diffuse gliomas are what we used to call astrocytomas
38:38
oligodendrogliomas or all uh, astro oligo astrocytoma.
38:42
So we don't call oligo astro anymore.
38:45
Diffuse gliomas are non glioblastomas and they're infiltrating
38:50
either astrocytomas or oligo dendro gliomas.
38:55
And these are the three molecular markers that define diffuse gliomas.
38:59
I D H being the most important.
39:02
It signifies that it's going to be a lower grade one P 19
39:07
Q chromosome number one,
39:08
chromosome number 19 locus of code deletion.
39:13
This is a disease defining chromosomal marker for
39:18
oligo dro glioma.
39:21
A T R X is a marker defining astrocytoma.
39:25
So at our institution almost all diffuse gliomas on imaging
39:31
and at initial pathology,
39:32
a histologic analysis will undergo I D H for sure
39:37
and one P 19 Q of to make sure that it's not an oligo.
39:42
And if one P 19 Q is intact,
39:46
then they will go ahead and do a T rx to prove that this is an astrocytoma.
39:50
So this is how it's divided.
39:52
Diffuse gliomas is either mutant or wild type.
39:56
I already told you wild type diffuse gliomas are def facto
40:01
molecular glioblastoma in the mutant variant they will undergo MP 19
40:06
Q co deletion testing. If that is deleted,
40:10
that's an oligodendroglioma period N if it's one P 19 Q
40:15
intact,
40:16
then a T RX is lost then that's an astrocytoma,
40:21
the wild type. These are much more aggressive tumors.
40:25
They if they have a tur promoter,
40:27
E G F R amplification trisomy seven and monosomy 10,
40:32
this is called the molecular glioblastoma.
40:37
And diffuse astrocytoma i D H mutant was newly um,
40:42
graded uh, based on grade two,
40:44
three and four on WH for 2021.
40:48
And this the most aggressive variant is now called the grade four.
40:53
But it has to have this particular molecular deletion called CDK
40:58
N two A B homozygous deletion. But looking at the imaging,
41:02
you could tell that this tumor is already trying to enhance and there's some
41:06
areas of central necrosis but doesn't really look like a frank
41:11
glioblastoma.
41:12
You should think about grade four diffuse astrocytoma I D
41:17
H mutant.
41:18
And if your institution has the capability to do this molecular analysis,
41:24
CDK N two A B homozygous deletion,
41:27
this confirms that this is a grade four diffuse
41:32
astrocytoma.
41:34
I D H mutant I D H is the king right now of
41:39
determining the fate of a glioma.
41:41
Whether it's going to glioblastoma route or diffuse lower grade glioma.
41:46
It was discovered in 2008. And if there is a I D H mutation,
41:52
it leads to this particular molecule to hydroxy glu rate
41:56
accumulating. And it's much, much more common in lower grade gliomas.
42:01
And in primary GBMs it's almost never seen.
42:05
But in some cases of a glioblastoma that D differentiated from
42:10
a lower grade, you may actually detect this,
42:13
but in classic glioblastoma it's never seen.
42:17
So what does this mean that we at least have to know what IDH one
42:22
mutation one P 19 Q code deletion A T RX loss means that
42:27
I just already told you.
42:29
So here's some of the tumors that this is from literature where T two is super
42:33
bright flare, it becomes darker.
42:36
This has been called a T two flare mismatch and this is not a
42:41
100% rule,
42:42
but this has been described as T two flare mismatch meaning
42:47
T two is super bright, flare gets darker.
42:51
This has been a molecular imaging correlate of a diffuse
42:56
astrocytoma I D H mutant A T R X loss.
43:00
Not a hundred percent rule, but you could uh,
43:03
assess at least guess before the surgery.
43:07
Now here's a patient with diffuse glioma and how do I know
43:11
it's more likely to be i D H mutant or wild type?
43:14
The D W I is going to be one of the most helpful technique.
43:18
You could see that the tumor kind of disappears in D W I.
43:21
This is more likely to be I D H mutant the better prognostic
43:26
uh, glioma,
43:28
this is that patient with molecular glioblastoma not enhancing but look how
43:33
very much aggressive the D W I looks very reduced on D W I,
43:38
very dark on a D c. This is not a lower grade tumor at all,
43:43
despite the fact that it hardly enhances, has apparent circumscribed border.
43:48
This is not a good tumor. This is a I D H wild type.
43:53
This is molecular glioblastoma. How about this one?
43:56
This patient has a serpiginous looking calcium
44:01
and that calcific marker is pretty good.
44:05
Not a hundred percent rule for a specific type of tumor.
44:09
And you could see that the fluorescent in cyto hybridization,
44:12
that's what that is,
44:13
shows you that one P 19 Q code deletion.
44:18
You could see that there should be two pink and too green.
44:21
Our pathologist confirmed for me, but there's one missing.
44:25
So this is so-called the one P 19 Q code deletion.
44:30
And this is a disease defining marker of an oligo dendro glioma.
44:35
We don't do CT anymore to confirm the presence of calcification.
44:40
We may do SS w I but um,
44:44
CT to confirm calcification is no longer a standard of care practice.
44:50
This is a patient, this is the last case that I'll share with you.
44:53
He came back at 2003 and our um,
44:57
this was discovered after he had a car accident and CT detected a
45:02
low density lesion. So he came, he was completely asymptomatic.
45:06
I looked at this and I said, Hmm,
45:09
I'm not sure if it's tumor so why don't we just see get serial imaging.
45:13
So he came back every year and then it started to grow in about
45:18
three years. Here's 2012.
45:21
So nine years this lesion has almost double.
45:26
So I scratched my head and said, does lower grade gliomas grow this slowly?
45:32
Probably could. But during 2020, patient called,
45:35
emailed me and said my, can you take a look at my M R I?
45:39
And I look at it and I look at from the 2003. So these are 17 years apart.
45:45
And I explained to the patient, this is growing.
45:48
We no longer can just sit around and do nothing.
45:52
And our neurosurgical colleagues, after hearing my um,
45:56
brain tumor talk about two hg, he said to me,
46:00
why don't we get a two HG M R s? And I thought really an idea.
46:05
So we brought the patient to our research scanner and our
46:09
outstanding postdocs and PhDs there helped us to do a
46:14
two HG scan. And lo and behold,
46:17
this patient within this lesion had an unmistakable,
46:21
not an artifactual,
46:23
a two hydroxy peak that you can only really see in
46:29
I D H mutant gliomas.
46:32
So this pushed us over the edge. Patient went for surgery, gross,
46:36
totally resected.
46:38
And this is a gross totally resected I D H mutant
46:43
one P 19 Q co-ed oligo dendro glioma.
46:48
And this is the first time that I was just stunned at how this
46:53
non-invasive technique really helped us. So this is um,
46:57
already three years ago now. Um,
47:00
and patient is doing very well that um,
47:03
two HG is indeed a marker for I D H mutant
47:08
gliomas.
47:08
And this happens to be an I D H mutant oligo dendro glioma.
47:13
So let's go over some of the cases that I showed you earlier.
47:17
Patient has these three molecular markers altered.
47:21
So what is the tumor type?
47:23
I showed you this case already twice with this really profound reduced diffusion
47:28
young lady who are initially thought to have a stroke.
47:31
Unfortunately this is a molecular glioblastoma.
47:35
How about these three tumor types? Pilocytic ganglio, P X A,
47:40
they all share sometimes this nodule and cystic appearance.
47:45
What would be the um, defining molecular markers?
47:50
The B R A F V 600 E mutation.
47:53
How about this tumor that I just showed you? Calcification.
47:58
This is a one P 19 Q code deletion of an oligo
48:03
dendro glioma. So if you see a tumor and you happen to have a CT and uc,
48:08
calcium and putting together with M R I features,
48:11
you could be with reasonable confidence tell that this is going to be an oligo
48:16
dendro glioma.
48:17
And if you're ever doubt you can actually do a two HG M R SS scan and
48:22
see if you can detect two hg.
48:24
That will be a slam dunk that this is an I D H mutant tumor. How about this one?
48:29
Midline,
48:30
just awful looking expansile tumors in pediatric age group.
48:35
What will be the histologic marker and diagnosis?
48:38
This is diffused midline glioma.
48:42
H three K 27 M altered.
48:45
These are histone mutated, really aggressive tumors.
48:50
How about these two tumors? Extra AAL tumors,
48:53
not a meningioma but they are joined together.
48:57
SS F T and heman. Cytoma,
48:59
what is the molecular marker that defines these two tumor types into
49:04
one? That's the STAT six nuclear expression.
49:10
We already discussed the two different types of posterior fossa pomas,
49:15
they're completely different genetically.
49:17
One is called the P F A, the asymmetric type.
49:23
The other one is called A P F B as in ball shaped in the
49:27
midline.
49:29
A is asymmetric pediatric age group and it's an
49:34
awful prognosis.
49:36
The one in the midline looks like ball shaped.
49:40
These are better prognostic, uh,
49:43
and very rarely these will be infiltrated.
49:46
So the two different types subtypes of a posterior fossa appendamoma
49:51
are posterior fossa, appendamoma type A.
49:55
The other one is posterior fossa.
49:57
Appendamoma type B B is better ball
50:01
shaped. P F A is asymmetric.
50:05
Asymmetric and it's a awful prognosis.
50:09
The four main subtypes of medulloblastomas, we already discussed this.
50:14
The one that is off midline kind of looks like CP angle or lower
50:19
cranial nerve schwannoma.
50:21
That actually is the one of the best prognostic, uh, subtype of the melo.
50:26
And that's the wind hemispheric multinodular.
50:31
Solid aggressive looking reduced on diffusion.
50:34
That is going to be the sonic hedgehog.
50:38
Two midline tumors reduced on diffusion.
50:42
One enhances more avidly.
50:44
The other one in less enhancing the one that enhances more is
50:49
the group three and the less enhancing midline medulloblastomas
50:54
are the group four.
50:56
So here is your main four molecular genetic subtypes of
51:01
medulloblastomas and imaging not,
51:06
not as good as, uh,
51:07
pathology or molecular genetics or U C S F 500 gene panels,
51:11
but it does a pretty decent job guesstimating what the molecular
51:16
genetic abnormality might be of a given tumor. So with that,
51:21
I would like to summarize that I gave you some highlights of 2021
51:26
W H O C N SS tumor classification.
51:28
But I also wanna highlight that this is a field that's evolving every year.
51:33
So the next version,
51:34
which I am told might come out in 2025 or 2026
51:39
may actually have even more molecular genetic markers. So please,
51:44
uh, stay tuned about that.
51:47
And I showed you some update on structural and physiologic mr like diffusion
51:52
being super important to differentiate abscess versus, uh,
51:56
glioblastomas cellular versus less cellular tumors.
52:00
And Mr perfusion to detect recurrent highgrade gliomas
52:05
and spectroscopy methods that you can actually detect some of the onco
52:10
metabolite associated with I D H mutant,
52:13
such as two hydroxy glutamate.
52:17
And the imaging correlates a molecular and genetic profiles of c n s
52:22
tumors.
52:22
An example being the four subtypes of medulloblastoma and two
52:27
subtypes of appendamoma that you could actually guesstimate.
52:31
Not a hundred percent rule, but with a reasonable confidence.
52:34
You could predict their molecular subtypes without ever touching a
52:39
tissue or doing a craniotomy.
52:41
I think imaging is such a powerful technique and it's non-invasive.
52:46
So we are in a very interesting and very important field.
52:51
And as I said, molecular generic era of c n s tumors is here.
52:56
It's only gonna get more complex and advanced and imaging must
53:01
keep up with its pace. So with that,
53:04
I thank you for your attention and I will stop sharing my
53:08
screen and take any questions. So I think we got some, um,
53:13
in the chat q and a. Um, oh,
53:18
where does A T R T stand in this classification?
53:22
So A T R T stands for atypical OID roid tumor.
53:27
This is actually a tumor that is super aggressive,
53:31
but they're not melos. They're not appendamoma. And they have, uh,
53:35
their own very specific molecular marker called i n I one.
53:41
So our pathologist can specifically test that molecular marker
53:46
to differentiate 'cause A T R T can look just like medulloblastoma
53:51
can just like, um, aggressive appendamoma the P F A.
53:56
So we actually have the, our pathologists have the power and method to,
54:01
um, identify A T R T.
54:04
There's no formal classification of A T R T yet,
54:08
but it might be next time, next version might include that. But like I said,
54:12
the molecular marker that defines A T R T is this, um,
54:18
enzyme called i n i one mutation. If that is altered,
54:22
that's an A T R T and nothing else. Next question.
54:26
Since glio mitosis survives obsolete, now,
54:29
what is to be labeled according to recent recommendation?
54:33
This is an excellent question. Even though W h O said don't use this,
54:38
uh, frankly, at tumor board,
54:40
I use this term because some tumors entire hemisphere is
54:45
all infiltrated with non enhancing flare, bright lesion.
54:49
Nothing is enhancing, nothing is reduced. So now we use, I use the term,
54:54
this is the gliosis cerebral pattern
54:59
of, uh, diffuse glioma.
55:02
But these are usually when they do go for pathology,
55:06
they are i d h mutant, uh, tumors. And they're not oligos.
55:10
They're never, I've never seen glioma, mitosis,
55:13
cerebral tumors that are actually oligo or one P 19 Q code
55:18
deleted. So yes, it's, it's obsolete.
55:22
And yet we still use this term.
55:25
Is the term relay fusion still used or is it outdated?
55:30
Um, another good question. No,
55:32
it's the W H O 2021 came up with this Z F T A,
55:37
some other name. But in our tumor board,
55:40
we still use the term relay fusion because everybody understands
55:45
what that is. But the molecular genetic term has become much more, uh,
55:50
complicated. But when I'm reading out with a trainee, uh, we look at the,
55:55
uh, electro medical record and if we see the term relay,
55:59
we know that we have to really look for odd places for recurrence.
56:04
That's really what's important here, that relay fusion may, uh, append,
56:08
omas tend to occur at least maybe half a dozen cases that
56:13
I've seen in the dural surfaces.
56:16
So the probably next version might end up just getting rid of relay
56:21
altogether, but we still use it. And that is still,
56:24
that term is still exists in the very complex pathology report,
56:28
so you could search for it as well. Uh, is there any other question?
56:33
Let me just do that. There's a chat here. Um,
56:35
There's a chat about your painting if you wanna, um, say what painting that is.
56:41
So this is Georgia O'Keeffe. This is,
56:43
this is not a actual real painting,
56:47
but if anybody would like to donate this to me, I will be forever grateful.
56:51
Just kidding. This is a,
56:53
this is one of the most beautiful painting that I've ever seen.
56:55
This is a Georgia O'Keeffe's. I don't know the name,
56:59
I think she just named it flower.
57:01
But I've been using this for the entire pandemic and
57:06
thank you so much. So there's no molecular marker associated with this painting.
57:12
Uh, is there anything else that I could answer for our outstanding, um,
57:17
audience?
57:19
I think that's it. Dr. Cha, thank you so much for your lecture today, really.
57:23
Oh, thank you. Thank you so much everyone.
57:25
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57:30
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57:31
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