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Today we are honored to welcome Dr. Benjamin Strong
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for a case-based lecture entitled Intracranial Trauma ct
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Dr. Strong completed residencies in both internal medicine
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and radiology, and completed a fellowship in body M-S-K-M-R.
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He worked as an emergency physician for three years,
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private practice radiologist for two years,
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an academic radiologist for two years.
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He's worked in various capacities for virtual radiologic
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for the past 21 years
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and holds licenses to practice in all 50 US states.
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With that, we're ready to begin today's lecture,
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Dr. Strong, please take it from here.
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Thanks very much, Ashley.
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Uh, thanks to everyone at modality
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for the invitation to speak.
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It's a real pleasure to be here.
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So we'll be doing intracranial hemorrhage today.
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Uh, I find this an entertaining picture
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because in my residency I had conceived that this is
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how I really wanted to view CT scans.
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It only took about three hours for me to parse and skew
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and stack, uh, every image here on this normal ct.
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And, uh, obviously it never took off.
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So we'll be doing the left hand column here on
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intracranial hemorrhage.
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And I will tell you my cases come from a variety of sources.
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About a third are cases I read myself
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about a third have come to me
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through the medical malpractice
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and QA processes at virtual radiologic,
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and about a third have come from my colleagues.
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So I'll try and call those out when relevant.
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We'll start with a pretty apparent case
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of epidural hemorrhage.
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So this one, the, a few points to make about epidurals,
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they're, of course, when this large, they're relatively easy
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to spot a lens shaped hyperdense lesion,
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often in the middle cranial fossa.
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But I never fully appreciated until later in my career
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how often these, uh, will dissect down into the floor
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of the middle cranial fossa.
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And that will have a few findings, uh, that are specific to
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that, that we'll call out here in a second.
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So, higher up, you can see that large
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epidural there in the lateral aspect,
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in the middle cranial fossa.
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And the important point here is
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that there is uncle herniation very early,
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but that's what happens.
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That medial temporal lobe will shift medially,
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distort the five pointed star of the SRA cell cistern,
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and will ultimately, uh, drop over the anterior portion
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of the tentorium, which you can see happening right here.
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So that's the very important finding here.
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When we go up another level, you'll see again that uncle
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displacement, but here is the finding I was talking about,
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about lesions in the floor of the middle cranial fossa.
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They will often elevate
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and distort the temporal horn
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of the lateral ventricle on that side.
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And this will happen as well
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with lateral middle cranial fossa lesions.
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But it's particularly note notable in lesions in the floor
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of the middle cranial fossa.
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And that was pointed out to me many years ago by one
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of my attendings, and it has been
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the first finding I have identified in many cases
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of smaller epidural hemorrhage.
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Our first movie of the day often runs a little
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jittery, so here we go.
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So I really relate to this case in a lot of ways.
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Uh, first of all, when I was in emergency physician,
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this was my worst fear
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because I had trained in internal medicine
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and I was not particularly procedurally adept.
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I was a pretty good diagnostician,
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but I truly did live in fear
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of having a kid come in.
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Uh, this was a teenager, a 14-year-old,
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and that makes it all the worse, right?
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I always lived in fear of a young kid coming in
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with the classic talk and die presentation.
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That's what they always called this in er,
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the patient usually passes out from the initial impact
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and then awakens and is relatively lucid
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and then deteriorates quite rapidly, so thus the
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to and die patient.
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So that often will require emergent decompression
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with a drill through the squamous
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portion of the petris bone.
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And that was something I had never performed.
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So I lived in constant fear of this happening to me.
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And so I remember this was in the middle of North Dakota,
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Minot, North Dakota was where this came in from,
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and I had to call it into the ER doctor
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and describe essentially
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to this poor guy my worst nightmare.
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And I always remember, I I said,
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this is a very large epidural.
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There is pending uncle herniation
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and it needs to be decompressed right away.
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And we started to hang up and he came back on the phone
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and said, you said epidural, right?
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And I, as I hung up, I thought, Ugh,
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he's living my worst nightmare.
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Uh, so the other thing I relate to about this case is
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that this was a 14-year-old who was playing baseball,
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and he was hit with a line drive.
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Now that seems straightforward enough,
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but if you think about where this blow landed,
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it was on the side of his head,
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which means he played little league baseball much like I
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did, and that he was looking anywhere
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but at the actual action on the field.
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So here is that patient's non-displaced skull fracture,
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which affected, of course, the middle meningeal artery,
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and they can be extremely subtle.
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I, all right, our next one is actually a twofer
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or a bogo.
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Buy one, get one, uh, with two epidural collections.
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And it's a great one because it shows the difference, uh,
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between a venous epidural and an arterial epidural.
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So the venous epidurals will typically span a dural
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venous sinus, and they occur most typically in the frontal
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region, in the posterior fossa across the transverse sinus.
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And here in the temporal pole, this is related to tearing
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of the sphen parietal sinus
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and is a, uh, probably the third most common location
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for a venous epidural.
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These don't always have to be surgically addressed,
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and in fact, many times they're not.
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They're simply observed.
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But it, it is important to note that that's a,
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that's a tricky spot to identify these.
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And so it's, uh,
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someplace you should always have on your search pattern.
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But we are lucky here in that, uh, the,
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this patient also has an arterial epidural,
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and you can see the classic lens shaped hyperdense
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collection, respecting skull sutures.
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There as is the, uh, typical appearance
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of an arterial epidural note.
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Also, the heterogeneity.
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Not all epidurals are going to be homogeneously hyperdense.
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And in fact, contrary to your intuition,
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when you see a swirling heterogeneous epidural,
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it often is hyperacute rather than one that is, uh, older
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and resolving and forming clot.
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So there's a bit of a swirl going on in here as clot forms.
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And so you will note sometimes in the hyperacute epidurals,
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there'll be markedly heterogeneous.
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So here is that patient sini.
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There's the temporal pole, venous epidural,
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and then the arterial epidural in a classic location.
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And this patient had a much more visible skull fracture
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that extends superiorly here,
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that one quite a bit more obvious than the preceding,
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which was really only visible on one cut.
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All right, this is another venous epidural,
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and it is associated with contusions of the frontal lobes.
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The inferior frontal lobes are particularly vulnerable to
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contusion, uh, partly
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because of the added mobility in the frontal lobes compared
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to other regions of the brain, and also
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because of, of their location adjacent
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to the planum sphenoid alley.
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That horizontal plate of bone
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that separates your orbits from the, uh, floor
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of the anterior cranial cranial fossa.
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So that's a relatively rough surface,
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and the mobility of the frontal lobes allows them
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to get beaten up by that roughened surface.
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So you can see here a mix of cortical
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and white matter hypodensity as is common in contusions.
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And here is the lens shaped venous epidural.
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And note, the venous epidurals will span sutures,
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this one spanning the, uh, early closing atopic suture.
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But because of the arrangement of Doral reflections,
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the venous epidurals can span, uh, sutures of the skull,
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unlike the epidurals which typically respect them.
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So here are those frontal lobe contusions
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and that venous epidural extending right up to the apex.
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So this one is also associated
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with a skull fracture.
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An important point to make about skull fractures is
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to make certain that, uh, you identify the passage
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of a fracture through any sinus.
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And so you can see this one goes through the frontal sinus,
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and that technically qualifies as an open fracture
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and should be, uh, surgically debrided
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and prophylaxed with antibiotics.
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Note also, uh, when we ascend to the uppermost element of,
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uh, portion of this fracture,
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it's actually entering the sagittal suture and spreading it.
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So we have a dias static
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suture there, right there at the top.
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You can see how it's widened anteriorly.
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All right, so that is a venous epidural
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in the frontal region.
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And this one I have set up
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for the residents to guess themselves.
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But, uh, this one goes across the transverse sinus.
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So you can see little dots
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of gas there in the transverse sinus suggesting
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it has been violated.
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And when we go to the cine, you can see epidural hemorrhage.
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That would be, again, a venous epidural hemorrhage extending
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superiorly, fortunately for this patient,
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superiorly from the transverse sinus.
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And of course there's a little hemorrhagic contusion there
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in the posterior temporal or inferior parietal lobe.
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So this patient was simply observed,
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and I remember the neurosurgeon said, well, if it had gone
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inferiorly and were compressing on the, uh,
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cerebellar hemisphere,
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he'd have felt very differently about it
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and had a much lower threshold for surgery.
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But they ultimately ended up just observing this patient.
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And there you can see the skull fracture that led to this
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traversing again, that transverse sinus.
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All right, moving on to other types of hemorrhage.
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This is a subdural hemorrhage.
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You can see that crescent of extra axial density there.
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And, uh, our head of the QA committee always likes
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to say that subdurals
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and subarachnoid, they're very hard to sort out
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and they often are present together.
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And so when she reports these, you know,
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she always tells me 25% of them are clearly subdural,
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25% are clearly subarachnoid,
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but there is a middle ground
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where you really can't sort them out very well.
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And you can see these little of density
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running up the sulky there in the right frontal region.
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So this is a nice example of probably mixed subdural
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and subarachnoid hemorrhage.
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So a large number of these, uh, I will just report
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as mixed subdural, mixed, uh, subdural arachnoid.
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So the real reason I have this, uh, case in here though
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is this gas at the skull base.
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That is something to really tune on
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and make sure you note in any given case.
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Now, of course, you may have penetrating trauma
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with an overlying laceration,
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in which case all bets are off.
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And the significance of this skull base gas may be,
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uh, questionable.
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However, you really wanna spot this
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because it can be a very important indicator of a skull base
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or mastoid fracture.
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And that is the case here.
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I was always taught in residency to define, uh,
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temporal bone fractures as longitudinal or transverse.
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And then of course, as soon as you learn a system like that,
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along comes a perfectly oblique fracture
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that doesn't fit into either classification.
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Uh, I saw a lecture some years ago where the presenter said,
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what really matters is involvement of the middle ear cavity
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and otic capsule.
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Those are the things that will cause either conductive
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or sensor neural hearing loss.
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And so those are really the things
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to concentrate on in reporting temporal bone fractures.
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So I had adopted that and fortunately so
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because this again, kind of defies classification
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as either a longitudinal or transverse fracture,
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and you can see that it is entering the middle ear cavity.
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So this has an important finding, which is
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incu dissociation.
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The ice cream has fallen off the cone.
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If you look on this normal side, you can see a little dot
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of, of, um, malus
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and sitting on the incus right here.
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And that's the normal situation.
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And over here you can see the two are clearly separated,
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meaning you've got inchy or dislocation.
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So there is that skull base gas that calls your attention
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to the fact that a temporal bone
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or mastoid fracture must be present.
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And
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I've even got a blow up right there, gets a little pixely,
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but does make it clear.
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All right, I included this one just
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because it's about every manifestation
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of subdural hemorrhage that can be seen.
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And in the case of an infant, of course,
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this basically is pathognomonic for abusive trauma.
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I'm very pleased to have seen the lexicon has changed.
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I was raised to call this non-accidental trauma.
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I don't see any reason to euphemized, uh,
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what's going on here.
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And so now it typically is referred to as abusive trauma.
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And I, that's one of the few changes in terminology
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that I've been very pleased to see.
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So the tentorium can be hyperdense,
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and when you've got a small bilateral tentorial
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hemorrhage, that can be difficult.
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But here we're saved by the asymmetry,
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and you can pretty confidently I think, say that that is
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tentorial hemorrhage.
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And of course, tentorial hemorrhage is always going
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to be subdural in location.
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So a little higher up, you can appreciate
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that there is too much density, not just
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that one hyperdense dot,
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which is most likely more acute hemorrhage in the setting of
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previous resolving subdural hemorrhage.
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But you can also see in the CSF all surrounding the frontal
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lobes that there is too much density
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that should be CSF density.
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It should affect, essentially match the density of the,
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uh, ventricles.
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And clearly it is too dense.
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So this is evidence of a previous subdural
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with a new acute hemorrhage superimposed on that.
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So the more astute of you may have already noticed
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that there is also cytotoxic edema,
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quite extensive cytotoxic edema, in fact involving both the,
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uh, temporal and occipital lobes as well
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as the frontal lobes.
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So you can see this on both sides
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and in all of these locations.
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So the really, the only normal brain is kind
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of in the middle cerebral distribution here.
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And this is the classic appearance of strangling, right?
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It, uh, spares the posterior fossa
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and just mainly hits the anterior circulation,
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the carotid circulation,
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because of course, the carotids are the vessels
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that get compressed when a patient is strangled.
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So you can see here again,
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there is a classic subdural location next to the foul.
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That parol same density is always subdural,
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just like tentorial density is always subdural.
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And you can again, appreciate the extent
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of the cytotoxic edema
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and the infarcted brain, which is pretty much all
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of the brain tissue you see here.
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And then lastly, more parols hemorrhage here at the vertex.
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So this patient has subdural hemorrhage almost
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everywhere you can have.
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It was a very sad case,
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I'm afraid we, uh, got onto that one a little too late.
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So again, appreciate that cytotoxic edema,
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you really can't see gray, white differentiation
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throughout most of the brain.
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And again, note the sparing of the posterior fossa.
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Again, classic for carotid compression.
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And there again, we're appreciating the increased density
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of the CSF suggesting a remote
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prior subdural.
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All right, actually kind of a similar case,
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but this one in an adult,
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this will just round out all the locations
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of subdural hemorrhage.
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This one is clival, so that's another location
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that when you see extra axial hemorrhage,
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you can just say this is by virtue of its anatomic location.
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Subdural, again, we have an asymmetric density
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of the tentorium,
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an extra axial collection with a little bit
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of midline shift.
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And then lastly, relatively subtle,
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but still clearly present Parolin hemorrhage right
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there, superiorly.
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All right, well now
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this is the dreaded iso dense subdural.
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This is the one we all live in fear of.
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I was taught early in my career that you should always look
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for these tendrils of white matter extending all the way out
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to the inner table.
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Of course, they don't anatomically,
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but on a ct they certainly appear to.
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And so you wanna make sure that the brain, uh,
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is running all the way out to that inner table.
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And if you look in this right frontal region, you can see
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that they don't quite make it.
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There is fortunately some leftward midline shift
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to help you out here,
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but that is as iso dense as a subdural can get.
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So there's that midline shift,
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but a very challenging call to make.
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You can see there's a crescent there of distance between,
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uh, the normal white matter
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that you should see extending all the
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way to the inner table.
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So an iso dense subdural, we've got one more of those,
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not quite as dramatic,
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but just to tune your eye, there is a similar finding in,
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in fact, the same location, an iso dense subdural.
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And again, you can just see the slightest bit
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of mass effect, midline shift,
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and a little compression of that right lateral ventricle.
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All right, well, this one is a very complex case,
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and actually it took me a long time to figure out exactly
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what was going on in the region of the brainstem here.
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But ultimately I was able to discern, uh,
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that this is uncle herniation here.
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This is the onca, uh, pooching over the anterior tentorium
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right in this region, right on the right aspect
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of the super cell cistern.
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So what it's causing is displacement
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of the brainstem, which is over here.
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And when you initially look at this,
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this density looks like it's in the interocular faucet,
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but in fact it's not.
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This is peres cephalic, as is this.
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So here is our large subdural,
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and these are both peres cephalic hemorrhage.
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Then we have, of course,
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a little hemorrhage in the dilated ventricle here.
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And of course, the right lateral ventricle is efface.
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So that's not actually the reason I have this case
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in my collection.
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The reason is that it has a beautiful depiction
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of a sub false herniation.
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So look at the position of the lateral ventricles here.
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You can see they're all the way into the left side,
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and there has been herniation
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of the medial frontal gyrus under the falk.
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And what happens in this case
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is it will pinch the anterior cerebral artery
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and cause an infarct in that region.
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So you can see the hypodensity
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of the herniated right frontal lobe de uh,
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denoting an infarct.
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And here you can even see that some
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of the right frontal lobe
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that has not herniated is still affected by the occlusion
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of the anterior cerebral artery.
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So it's actually all ischemic there.
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And here we see the similar phenomenon
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with both the herniated
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and the, uh, still in place, medial right frontal lobe,
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all showing evidence of infarct.
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So that is a sub falses scene herniation.
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And again, you can just appreciate that
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that is uncle herniation with displacement of the brainstem.
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All right, so that was a sub falses herniation.
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Here we have another subdural,
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and this one is, the last one was a bit heterogeneous
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and suggested a stuttering or re-bleeding hemorrhage.
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And this one is even more.
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So this looks like it might have been multiple
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repetitive subdurals layering out.
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When you see this kind of laminated appearance
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of the extra axial fluid, uh, that suggests, uh,
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repeated hemorrhages over time.
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And that is a common scenario with subdurals.
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Oftentimes these are aging patients with atrophic brains
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who suffer falls and then have gait instability
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because of the, uh, hemorrhage that accumulates,
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and then that sets them up for additional falls.
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So it is a common manifestation of subdurals in
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that particular patient demographic
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that you'll see this kind of, uh, repetitive bleeding.
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So this is, there is that bleeding.
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Of course, this is another case of uncle Herniation,
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and it has a few really important points to make, especially
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the fact that the temporal horn
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of the lateral ventricle is dilated here.
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And what's happening is as
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that onus herniates over the tentorium,
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right in this anterior tentorial region, it will pinch
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the lateral ventricle
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and that will allow the herniated portion
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of the temporal horn to dilate up.
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And that is a phenomenon known as a trapped horn.
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Attending jokes are about as bad as dad jokes,
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but I always remember one of my attendings, he,
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he couldn't see a trapped horn without saying
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beep beep beep.
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So I find myself compelled to repeat it.
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So the other neat finding here is that in this case,
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the brainstem is not as displaced as it was on
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that previous uncle herniation.
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Certainly there is some compression here,
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but in this case, we've got an a similar density to
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what we saw last time.
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But this one is actually in the substance, the mentum
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of the midbrain, and that is a classic
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duray hemorrhage that occurs due to infarction
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of the brainstem, usually associated with herniations,
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I believe the classic duray hemorrhages associated
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with foramen magnum herniation.
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But in this case, this displaced onus is clearly causing a
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vascular compromise there.
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So this brainstem was in fact ischemic and hemorrhagic.
27:54
So you don't often see duray hemorrhages on ct, uh,
27:59
as the patient rarely survives long enough to be imaged.
28:05
So very nice example of uncle herniation though, uh, again
28:09
with a trapped horn.
28:28
All right, uh, this one is in here just to remind everyone
28:32
to look here every time.
28:34
This is an interocular fossa subarachnoid hemorrhage.
28:38
That location always is subarachnoid,
28:41
and this is visible really only on two cuts.
28:45
So it's a very subtle finding.
28:47
But you know, I, I do wanna point out
28:51
that this is still very important.
28:54
I view the tiny intracranial hemorrhage much like I do the
28:58
small pulmonary embolism in that no one is going
29:02
to address the effects of this tiny hemorrhage, right?
29:05
No one needs to go evacuate this, uh,
29:09
or, uh, in the case of a pe, right?
29:12
No one needs to thrombo lys a tiny pe.
29:15
But both are important in that they serve as indicators
29:20
of either in the case of intracranial hemorrhage,
29:23
a severe intracranial injury,
29:25
or in the case of a pulmonary embolism, it's a harbinger
29:29
of the large, uh, pulmonary embolism that is to come, right?
29:34
So both serve as important indicators when
29:37
the finding itself is small and seemingly inconsequential
29:41
and may not need to be specifically addressed.
29:45
Uh, still it's important to spot these
29:47
because seeing intracranial hemorrhage in a trauma patient
29:51
puts them on an entirely different prognostic
29:54
trajectory, right?
29:55
The assumption can be
29:57
that there could very well be hidden intracranial
30:00
in injury here.
30:02
And when you look statistically, the patients
30:05
that even have these small intracranial hemorrhages, uh,
30:09
actually do not do as well as patients
30:11
that have truly normal CT scans on presentation.
30:19
So again, just visible on a couple cuts,
30:23
and this also brings up an important principle in radiology,
30:27
uh, uh, in, in my capacity as chief medical officer,
30:31
I attend and have attended, uh, quality assurance meetings
30:35
for a variety of the facilities we cover over the years.
30:39
And I used to routinely attend the quality assurance, uh,
30:43
meetings at this particular facility.
30:45
And I remember this one was in fact missed
30:48
and they showed it at the QA meeting.
30:50
And I, uh, always remember one
30:52
of the radiologists at the table said, well,
30:54
how am I supposed to see that?
30:58
And, uh, fortunately I didn't have to answer,
31:01
actually a neuroradiologist sitting next to me did.
31:03
And he said exactly what I would've said.
31:06
He said, you look there every time.
31:10
And that is the essence of radiology.
31:12
You know those places that you're blind
31:15
to in your search pattern and you actually expedite them.
31:19
You put them at the top of your search pattern
31:21
and make sure you never miss it.
31:23
So when I actually say the words,
31:26
there is no intracranial hemorrhage.
31:28
My eye goes to that pre pontine
31:30
and peres cephalic region, then to the interocular fossa,
31:34
and then to the dependent portions of the occipital horns,
31:38
because I know that's
31:39
where intracranial hemorrhage will collect
31:42
and where I may not see it.
31:49
Alright, another case of subarachnoid hemorrhage,
31:52
this one intraventricular
31:54
and a very helpful hint given to me by, uh,
31:58
the same attending as from our first case.
32:01
He was, uh, particularly tuned apparently
32:03
to the temporal horns,
32:05
but he pointed out to me that the architecture
32:08
of the white matter in the temporal region makes it, uh,
32:12
a little less resistant to the expansion
32:15
of the temporal horns than the other regions surrounding
32:19
the lateral ventricles.
32:20
Uh, add to that, the effect of gravity,
32:24
and you get, basically the temporal horns are
32:28
the first place that you will see dilation
32:31
of the ventricular system in early hydrocephalus.
32:34
So if you're ever wondering, oh,
32:36
these ventricles are really on the fence,
32:38
I don't know if I'm quite looking at hydrocephalus, go down
32:42
to the temporal lobes, look at those temporal horns
32:45
and see if they're prominent in a young brain.
32:48
They may not even be visible normally, right?
32:51
So if you can see them
32:52
and they appear to be at all prominent, then what you are
32:55
probably looking at is in fact hydrocephalus.
32:59
So here we have density in the fourth ventricle,
33:02
and here are those dilated temporal horns going right
33:05
out to the onus.
33:06
And that's extremely helpful.
33:07
Again, a young brain, you really shouldn't see them
33:10
that prominent.
33:12
Uh, and so that helps you to, to identify the fact
33:15
that you are looking at hydrocephalus here.
33:18
So here we can see additional intraventricular hemorrhage in
33:22
the third ventricle and lateral ventricles.
33:24
And a similar case actually resulted in a question from a
33:28
colleague who said, why doesn't
33:30
that hemorrhage fill the ventricles completely?
33:33
You would think that it would fill
33:35
and expand those ventricles
33:37
until the pressure mounting in the ventricles would stem
33:41
or stach the flow of blood into the ventricles.
33:45
Well, that probably did happen,
33:47
and you will see this phenomenon
33:48
that you'll have in intracranial
33:50
or intraventricular hemorrhage that will stop,
33:54
the clot will form,
33:56
but it will cause a chemical appendicitis
34:00
and potentially even occlude the foramina of Monroe or Luka.
34:05
And what then happens is dilation of those ventricles around
34:09
and already formed intraventricular clot.
34:13
And I think you can see that here,
34:14
that the clot does not completely fill the ventricles,
34:18
and yet the clot is in a vaguely ventricular form shape.
34:23
And that was present in the fourth ventricles as well.
34:25
And you can see the, uh, temporal horns here,
34:28
even in at this level, are a little prominent, again,
34:32
denoting the presence of hydrocephalus.
34:36
So there we have circled those temporal horns.
34:38
And again, you can see that fourth ventricular clot is
34:41
smaller than the fourth ventricle
34:43
that has dilated up around it.
34:46
Little bit of SoCal subarachnoid hemorrhage is, uh,
34:50
present there as well, probably in the right frontal region.
34:57
So a nice case demonstrating that phenomenon
35:00
of intraventricular hemorrhage with subsequent development
35:04
of hydrocephalus.
35:21
Alright, uh, some hemorrhagic contusions.
35:24
We've seen contusions of the frontal lobes,
35:27
which is a very common location.
35:29
Uh, we've seen the venous epidural at the temporal pole.
35:33
Certainly the temporal poles are also at risk for, for
35:37
cerebral contusions, but yet another place
35:40
to look every time is in the temporal lobes immediately
35:45
above the petre ridges, just like I was describing
35:48
with the frontal lobes
35:49
and the planum sphenoid alley,
35:51
the inferior temporal lobe sits right on that petre ridge,
35:55
and it's a rough surface that can really beat that portion
35:58
of the brain up.
36:00
And this one, I actually, this is from my residency days.
36:05
I actually managed to save this case
36:07
because it was so humiliating.
36:09
I was a second year resident
36:11
and I was sitting with a fourth year resident,
36:13
and we had this case up on the alternator.
36:16
It was back in the days when we were hanging films
36:20
and we were looking at this case and it just finished.
36:23
And the attending walked in, uh, same attending actually.
36:27
And he said, what'd you guys think of this?
36:29
And I said, I think it was normal.
36:32
And, uh, the attending turned to the fourth year
36:35
and said, what did you think of this?
36:37
And the fourth year said, I thought it was normal.
36:40
And our attending said, you guys are terrible.
36:44
And pointed out the fact
36:45
that there was a hemorrhagic contusion, not only
36:49
of the left temporal, but also of the right temporal.
36:52
It's much more subtle on the right temporal,
36:54
but there is just a hint of cortical hypodensity
36:58
with those stifled hyper densities, denoting hemorrhage.
37:02
Uh, that's the classic salt
37:03
and pepper appearance of a hemorrhagic contusion.
37:07
Uh, this became part absolutely part of my search pattern.
37:12
And I will tell you a helpful hint as well
37:14
that a different attending gave me back in training.
37:17
I asked him what's the best way to assess proper placement
37:22
of the brain in the gantry?
37:25
And he said, the petras ridges go by the petre ridges.
37:29
And so that developed into my head CT search pattern
37:33
that I go to those petre ridges, I find them, I make sure
37:37
that they are symmetric,
37:38
and thus I am assured
37:40
that the patient is appropriately placed within the gantry.
37:43
And then I click my scroll wheel up one
37:47
and look at the immediately adjacent
37:50
inferior temporal lobes sitting right
37:52
above the petre ridges.
37:54
And I do that every time.
37:56
And it's mainly
37:57
because of this case, you can see a little white matter, uh,
38:01
vasogenic edema extending superiorly from
38:04
that more injured left side.
38:12
So those are hemorrhagic contusions.
38:17
All right, uh, moving on to sheer injury,
38:20
which is not always amenable to diagnosis by ct.
38:24
Of course, sheer injury can happen without hemorrhage.
38:28
That's actually fairly rare.
38:30
Most DAI
38:32
or diffuse axonal injury will leave
38:35
a tiny dot of hemorrhage.
38:36
It's just often not enough to see on CT scan.
38:40
I will tell you, I've been seeing a lot of
38:43
CTE patients imaged with Mr.
38:47
Specifically the swan sequence.
38:49
And the swan sequence has such exquisite sensitivity
38:53
for paramagnetic artifact
38:55
that I have concluded just about every a axonal shear will
39:00
drop a tiny microscopic dot of hemorrhage
39:03
that will be visible on swan,
39:06
but again, on the ct, there has
39:08
to be a fairly significant amount of hemorrhage for you
39:10
to be able to spot it.
39:12
So this is a very fortunate case that's almost perfect.
39:17
I say almost because, uh,
39:19
Adam's triad is the off touted constellation
39:24
of findings that you will see in sheer injury.
39:26
And Adam's triad was brainstem hemorrhage,
39:32
septum lucidum, or corpus callosum hemorrhage,
39:35
and then subcortical white matter hemorrhage,
39:37
usually frontal.
39:40
I have determined over my 30 years in radiology
39:43
that atom's triad never happens.
39:46
I'm sure there's one out there somewhere.
39:48
In fact, I did finally just get a good case
39:51
of brainstem hemorrhage related to sheer injury,
39:54
but it didn't have all the other locations.
39:57
So I don't rely on brainstem hemorrhage to be present.
40:01
I think it's relatively infrequent in diffuse axonal injury.
40:05
But I have noticed
40:07
that medial temporal hemorrhage is actually quite common.
40:11
So I've decided to, uh,
40:13
to call this strongs triad rather than atoms triad.
40:17
And I'm swapping out the brainstem for
40:20
that medial temporal region.
40:22
So here is that little dot of hemorrhage
40:24
that you can see in the medial temporal region.
40:28
And as we go higher, this in the septum lucidum, again,
40:32
it can sometimes be in the corpus callosum.
40:35
Most of the time I'll see it just under the corpus callosum.
40:38
In the septum lucidum.
40:41
And then even higher up you can see that
40:45
sub cortical frontal white matter.
40:48
Again, the frontal lobes are a little more mobile.
40:51
And so, uh, this is the most common location that you'll see
40:55
that that's a very nice case of sheer injury.
41:00
It's not Adam's triad, but it is Strong's triad.
41:05
Sorry, we'll get that to run
41:15
septum lucidum, and then subcortical white
41:19
matter of all of these.
41:23
I really consider the septum lucidum
41:26
to be the most reliable.
41:28
It's most consistently present in cases of sheer injury,
41:32
and I consider it the most specific as well.
41:35
Um, because once you see it,
41:36
you can be pretty certain there's been a, a sheer injury
41:40
and that most likely other portions
41:42
of the brain are affected.
41:44
So generally speaking, uh, Mr will give you the full extent
41:48
of the injury.
41:50
Flare will show the torn, uh, axons, uh, axonal,
41:55
fales, uh, to great advantage.
41:57
And swan will be, of course, very sensitive for hemorrhage.
42:06
All right, well, that is our run through
42:08
of intracranial hemorrhage.
42:10
I have plenty more to share,
42:12
but I thought I would pause at this point
42:15
and, uh, see if we have any questions
42:18
that have been submitted.
42:21
Dr. Strong, thank you so much for that case review.
42:24
We have a ton of questions that have been submitted.
42:26
Oh, great. Um, do you wanna open up that q and a box?
42:30
Are, are you able to find it or I can
42:32
Start. I had my chat
42:33
open.
42:34
Yeah, if you can find
42:37
the little question mark in the quote bubble.
42:41
There we go. Awesome. Got it. Terrific.
42:46
I'm sorry to hit you all with that glare.
42:48
I've got a very large monitor in the center here
42:50
that creates a, a floodlight effect, a
42:53
Sunburst.
42:56
Alright, Uh, can we use lens shape
43:01
to diagnose epidural hematoma all the time?
43:04
A hundred percent of time? If not, what is the exception?
43:07
I definitely do go by the lens shape.
43:10
Uh, if you're, if it's in a location
43:12
where you assume it's an arterial epidural, uh,
43:17
you also wanna see it respecting sutures as we discussed.
43:20
But I think that is the main finding to go on.
43:24
And as I discussed earlier, uh,
43:26
you really can't always separate out subdural hemorrhage
43:30
from subarachnoid hemorrhage.
43:32
Uh, but I don't just throw them all in the trash can
43:36
of extra axial hemorrhage.
43:38
I specifically read those as mixed subdural subarachnoid
43:42
because to call something an epidural puts it on a whole
43:45
other level of treatment and urgency.
43:48
And so I think it's very important
43:50
to point out when you think there is an epidural hemorrhage.
43:53
And I do base that on the lens shape.
43:56
And in the case of arterial epidurals, the respecting
44:00
of the, uh, skull sutures.
44:04
Uh, let's see. Can we differentiate venous
44:06
and arterial e epidural hemorrhages solely based on imaging
44:09
and how location, location, location is my answer to
44:13
that if it spans a dural venous sinus.
44:16
And again, the three classic locations that I,
44:19
if I see a lens shaped collection, I'm going to call
44:23
that a venous epidural, are spanning
44:26
that atopic suture in the frontal region, uh,
44:29
the temporal pole, the tearing of the sphen parietal sinus,
44:33
and spanning the lambdoid suture
44:35
and transverse sinus posteriorly.
44:38
If it's anywhere else, um, I'm probably going to hedge
44:42
and not specifically call it venous.
44:44
It's really going
44:45
to be based entirely on its location within the skull.
44:51
Uh, oh,
44:55
just a question on indication
44:57
for performing the CT scan minor versus severe head trauma.
45:00
Uh, everybody gets a CT scan now.
45:04
I'm, uh, I'm jealous of them all
45:06
because I did not have a CT scanner when I was an ER doctor,
45:09
and so, uh, had to do everything on a clinical exam.
45:14
And so, uh, I'm jealous of the, uh,
45:19
propagate ordering of cts that is, uh, possible now
45:22
for ER physicians,
45:24
but I don't think people are very hung up on the indications
45:27
for CT scans.
45:28
Even minor traumas will get scanned.
45:32
And, uh, unfortunately there are occasionally surprises
45:35
that just encourage, uh, that kind of, uh,
45:39
imaging abuse in the ERs.
45:41
I don't know that it's really abuse.
45:43
Uh, you know, when I was an ER doctor, I would get
45:46
particularly incensed about people telling me I had, uh,
45:50
ordered too many scans in the preceding month, uh,
45:53
or too many tests I should say,
45:54
because I didn't get to order CT scans.
45:57
Uh, but that is the common attitude
46:01
of emergency physicians is you're coming
46:03
to me saying order fewer tests, order fewer scans,
46:07
but when there is a problem,
46:09
if a patient develops unsuspected complications from an
46:13
undiagnosed intracranial hemorrhage, uh,
46:16
you'll be nowhere to be found.
46:17
I will be left hanging as the final decision maker.
46:21
And so I definitely respect that argument from the er, uh,
46:26
from our er brethren.
46:28
And I would say as further extension of that, you know,
46:31
in radiology today,
46:33
we have such terrible capacity demand mismatch.
46:36
Everybody is just drowned.
46:38
And so, uh, nobody is doing much
46:41
to increase the capacity of radiology.
46:43
There has been no large scale expansion
46:46
of radiology training slots, uh,
46:49
a reduction in the requirements
46:51
for foreign medical graduates to get credentialed in the us.
46:54
Those sorts of things I would think would be the larger
46:57
scale efforts at addressing capacity demand imbalance.
47:01
And I really don't see anyone doing that.
47:04
So since we're not increasing the capacity side of
47:06
that equation, people always are looking at the imaging
47:10
side, the demand side of that equation
47:12
and saying, can we limit demand?
47:15
And I can tell you that is an issue
47:17
that's raised on a regular decade long cycle
47:20
and has been throughout my career.
47:23
It will never come to pass.
47:24
In fact, it's getting worse partly
47:27
because of the phenomenon I just described, right?
47:29
That our er brethren are the ones responsible
47:33
and accountable for the decisions they're making.
47:37
And so it's unfair to limit their ability to order tests.
47:40
But on top of that, we have
47:42
so many mid-level providers in ERs and urgent cares,
47:46
and the statistics are all quite clear on
47:49
that they are much more inclined to order imaging studies.
47:52
So rather than, uh, getting a handle on it, trying
47:55
to limit the demand
47:57
and the amount of imaging that's ordered,
47:59
I see things going in the wrong direction.
48:02
Uh, it, it is increasing and will continue to increase.
48:11
All right. Um,
48:16
are there any intracranial hemorrhagic lesions?
48:20
If yes, what type?
48:21
Uh, certainly underlying lesions are a
48:24
consideration in traumas.
48:25
They're going to be less so,
48:27
but certainly you have, uh, any number
48:30
of things that can hemorrhage.
48:31
You can have he hemorrhagic metastases
48:34
as in the case of melanoma.
48:36
That's kind of the classic, uh, GBMs can, of course,
48:40
hemorrhage that, uh,
48:41
is the classic pathology finding on GBMs is they have a
48:45
tendency towards hemorrhage and necrosis.
48:48
And of course, uh, probably the most important
48:51
of them is an A VM.
48:53
So you can definitely get spontaneous subarachnoid
48:56
hemorrhage from AVMs.
48:58
In fact, that is right up there with bar aneurysm in terms
49:02
of the frequency with which underlying lesions cause a
49:06
traumatic subarachnoid hemorrhage.
49:07
So that is a, a good point that you should always be wary,
49:12
uh, that there could be an underlying lesion in
49:14
intracranial hemorrhage.
49:15
But in the setting of trauma, it's, uh, it's not
49:19
as big a consideration,
49:24
uh, what is considered an urgent situation
49:27
with either subdural hemorrhage or subarachnoid hemorrhage.
49:31
I, I would tell you shift is the most important thing
49:34
that you can impart to your clinical brethren.
49:38
If you see any evidence of midline shift
49:40
or impending herniation be that foraminal onal
49:45
or sub falses scene, those are real indications
49:48
that urgent intervention is going to be required.
49:54
So, uh, also,
49:55
what is the recommended management based on the CT findings,
49:59
neurosurgical intervention, observation,
50:01
repeat scan, et cetera.
50:03
Uh, those really tend to be based on the size
50:07
and the amount of shift
50:08
or pending herniation that you're noting.
50:11
So I think my answer for that one, uh,
50:13
is basically the same, that if you see shift, uh,
50:17
it is very likely that they're going
50:19
to be intervening in a surgical fashion rather than simply
50:22
observing,
50:29
Uh, what technique was used, non-contrast,
50:33
contrast enhanced bone window 3D reconstruction, et cetera.
50:37
I would tell you that's a, that's a very good question.
50:40
Um, I have a whole collection of strokes,
50:44
and I found it entertaining
50:45
that I looked back one time a resident said to me, uh,
50:48
were any of those on stroke window?
50:50
Stroke window was not readily available in, uh, in my days
50:54
of printed CT scans.
50:56
And so we learned
50:57
to get along without them incredibly enough.
51:00
Now I look back and think, that's ridiculous.
51:03
Of course, if you have that tool available to you,
51:05
you should be availing yourself of it.
51:08
So, uh, that leads me though to my answer on hemorrhage,
51:11
which is make sure you have
51:15
multiplanar reformats.
51:17
We actually had to fight quite a battle
51:20
with our sending facilities.
51:22
Most of them agreed, uh,
51:25
after a short discussion to begin sending both coronal
51:28
and sagittal reformatted images straight from the modality,
51:33
uh, which gives you the best resolution, of course, right?
51:36
But we had a few holdouts, uh, mostly, you know,
51:40
the tenured radiologists that say,
51:42
axials have been just fine for me for all these years,
51:47
and we're not going to change our protocols for you.
51:49
And it really, uh, came down to serious headbutting
51:52
where we, uh, had to produce articles
51:55
and make a, a very, uh, concerted argument to
52:01
require coronal
52:02
and sagittal imaging on all non-contrast head cts.
52:06
So in terms of protocol and, uh,
52:09
and all of that, the standard non-contrast head CT is
52:12
undoubtedly the best initial assessment
52:15
of the brain in the er.
52:17
Uh, but I think it's very important that you have
52:20
NPRs in all cases and review them in all cases.
52:24
And the ones that are my favorites,
52:26
especially in looking at intracranial hemorrhage,
52:29
are the coronal images.
52:30
The vertex, especially venous epidurals of the vertex
52:34
that span the superior sagittal sinus.
52:36
They can be very difficult to spot on axial imaging.
52:41
And so I highly recommend that you not only perform, um,
52:46
multiplanar reformats on all your head cts,
52:49
but that you, uh, particularly tune on
52:51
that vertex region on the coronal images.
52:54
I think those are the most valuable.
52:57
And yes, there are difficulties in, uh,
53:01
getting reformats some of the older scanner scanners
53:04
because of gantry tilt.
53:06
Uh, you, you really were restricted in your ability
53:08
to create those NPRs,
53:10
but that is mostly gone, uh, has mostly gone
53:13
by the wayside at this point.
53:15
And most scanners are capable of overcoming that gantry tilt
53:19
and still giving you quality.
53:21
NPRs, uh,
53:25
can a venous epidural hematoma be resorbed at a 24
53:28
hour follow up?
53:30
Uh, certainly anything is possible
53:32
and these are low pressure bleeds.
53:34
And if it's small enough, I, I would say
53:37
that is probably possible.
53:39
I would expect you'll see a little residual 24 hours is a
53:42
pretty quick time period for resorption
53:45
of extra axial hemorrhage.
53:47
But it's very possible
53:49
that a venous epidural won't stay along, uh,
53:51
won't stay around very long.
53:58
Uh, do you do CTA cow if the brain is
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questionable for subarachnoid
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or negative to look for aneurysm?
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Absolutely. The case, uh,
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that's usually going to be the next step.
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If you identify subarachnoid hemorrhage
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and can't see a specific aneurysm on a non-contrast scan,
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which is typically the case, uh,
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the next step will be a CTA.
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So yeah, I think that, uh, that is a reasonable,
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uh, progression of events.
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All right, we're through the questions.
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I actually, uh, will share one last great case with you.
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I always come prepared.
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Uh, the first lecture I gave to a large group,
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I came in 10 minutes early
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and said, would anyone like to see those cases again?
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So, uh, I know now to come prepared
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and I do have a favorite case that I'll share with everyone
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as our parting one.
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So this is actually not an intracranial hemorrhage
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and for that I apologize.
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So we're not any longer on our established theme,
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uh, but this is, uh, quite the case.
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So this is actually a great demonstration
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of the vulnerability of a fused spine
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to fracture.
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And I can tell you I do a lot of work in medical malpractice
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and this has bubbled up as
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not the most common cause of medical malpractice cases,
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but a second tier.
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So I'll impart those twos, I won't hold the secret.
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Uh, the three most common missed findings that will convert
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to a medical malpractice case are aortic dissection,
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spinal epidural abscess
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and superior mesenteric artery occlusion, acute
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superior mesenteric artery occlusion.
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Those three together amount to 40%
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of the pathologies that lead to medical malpractice cases.
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Now at vRad, we are predominantly emergent.
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So there is uh, some skew in the patient population there,
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but that is uh, uh, worth noting, right?
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Those are the three big ones.
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My next tier of missed findings that can lead
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to a medical malpractice are spinal
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fracture in ankylosing spondylitis
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and missed intracranial aneurysm on
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non-contrast CT scan.
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As I said, it's not the greatest uh, study for that,
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but you can on occasion actually see an unruptured
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aneurysm with no associated subarachnoid hemorrhage.
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And we've seen a few cases of that
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where it could be called on a non-contrast scan isn't.
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And then of course the patient may very well at
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that point be presenting with a minimal sentinel bleed
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and they come in a week or two later with the real thing.
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So, uh, this is a case of ankylosing spondylitis fracture.
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And the particular thing about ankylosing spondylitis with
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that fusion of the spine, these patients have a tendency
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or an inflexible spine that is more vulnerable to fracture
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and the particular fracture that they're vulnerable
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to is one at the cervical thoracic junction.
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Because when a patient who is not known
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to have ankylosing spondylitis is intubated,
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it will snap the neck, right, typically at C seven T one.
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So this is a finding that suggests
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that's what happened here.
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This patient has an endotracheal tube,
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but they have a defect in the anterior cervical region from
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a cricothyrotomy, which is done
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for emergent airway management.
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And that's what always happens when the neck fractures due
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to ankylosing spondylitis during intubation, they will have
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to emergently manage with a cricothyrotomy
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and then as you can see later,
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place an endotracheal tube once the spine
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has been stabilized.
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So here is that spine
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and the amazing thing about this is on the axial images,
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it will look like an irregular disc space.
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It's a very hard thing to spot
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and this one may be a little lower in the thoracic spine
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than is typical for an intubation fracture.
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Uh, but we know that that was in fact the case.
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When we look at this uh, cine images on this, you'll see
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that all of the disc spaces are gone,
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the spine is completely fused
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and there's only this one irregular axial lucency
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through the upper thoracic spine that mimics the appearance
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of a disc space but isn't in addition, uh, this was kind
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of a procedural flail.
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You can see there's a chest tube outside
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of the chest cavity here.
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And what I'm pointing to here is fusion of the cost
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of transverse joint.
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When you're wondering is this spinal fusion due
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to ankylosing spondylitis look into locations, the cost
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of transverse joints will fuse.
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That is specific for ankylosing spondylitis.
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It is not very sensitive.
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The other place to look, here's the extra thoracic gas in
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that chest tube placement.
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The other place to look in ankylosing spondylitis.
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Again, there's cost of transverse, very nice fusion there
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and we've got some uh, spinal canal gas due to that fracture
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and a misplaced left chest tube as well.
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So the other place to look, uh, when you are trying
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to confirm a diagnosis of ankylosing spondylitis is the
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SI joints, they will fuse completely
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SI joint fusion is both sensitive
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and if bilateral, also pretty specific
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for ankylosing spondylitis.
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Uh, an old attending of mine said one time,
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when you're thinking ankylosing spondylitis go
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to the SI joints, if they are not fused,
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then whatever you're looking at in the spine is not
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ankylosing spondylitis.
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And that has held up for me over the decades.
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So very worthwhile advice there.
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All right, here we are on the lung windows just best showing
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that that gas introduced
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by the failed chest tube placement was able
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to enter the spinal canal through that fracture.
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So we'll look at the nies here.
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So there is that transverse lucency through the upper spine.
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Note the cost of transverse fusion
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and note the absence of disc spaces.
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I switch back and forth between the window settings
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for fuller appreciation, but see that fused spine
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and the fused SI joints.
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So this poor patient actually had a head injury
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and that's why he was intubated.
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So everything you see below the le, the level
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of the skull base was actually done to him
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by the emergency room staff.
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Alright, just a fun case to finish out with.
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But I'd like to thank everyone for attending.
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Thank you for all your questions
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and I hope to see you again in a similar venue.
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Dr. Strong, thank you so much for
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that awesome case review.
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And for the bonus case, that might be the first time
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someone's shown a bonus case, even got a bonus case.
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Thank you so much. And yes, thank you for everyone else
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