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So the second half of our ischemia evaluation
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talk is gonna be focused more on our approach
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to actually acquiring the images
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and then how we interpret the images.
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So first thing to do with
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for this test is you've gotta select the patients correctly
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and you've gotta make sure they undergo, you know,
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appropriate preparation.
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Luckily for us in the cardiac MR community, uh, the recent
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update to the chest pain guidelines in 2021 really showed
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that many, if not most patients are likely good candidates
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for cardiac MR evaluation, including patients with acute
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and stable chest pain.
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And so that kind of makes patient selection
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a little bit more straightforward in terms of
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who would is likely to benefit.
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And we've got a summary slide here again from the site
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for cardiovascular magnetic resonance, uh, about kind of
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where cardiac MR fit into those guidelines.
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And it's helpful to review those guidelines
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for anyone who's doing this, uh, on a regular basis.
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But then we get into other basic screening protocols
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to we need to make sure we cover this MRI safety screening,
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including things like do they have a pacemaker?
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Now you can do stress profusion in patients with pacemakers,
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uh, at least some sites can do that,
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but you know, you have to have a whole pacemaker dedicated
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protocol for making sure they can
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be imaged with the pacemaker.
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And then also your image quality is impacted
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by the pacemaker ICD, so more difficult in those patients.
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And then other things basically in our safety, things like,
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you know, metallic form bodies including old pacemaker
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wires, et cetera, especially in these cardiac patients,
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Stress agent considerations.
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So we are gonna be doing pharmacologic stress.
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Uh, and so, uh, we'll go through some
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of the specific contraindications,
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but you know, we do an informed consent of every patient
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who comes through our institution
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before we do this procedure.
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And it's specifically to make sure
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that we're discussing all the contraindications related
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to some of their medical history
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and how our pharmacologic agents can impact those things
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like asthma history of AV block.
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We do get an ECG
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before every exam that's evaluated by a cardiologist
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to make sure there's no signs of AV block
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that hadn't been detected before sinus bradycardia.
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And then recent caffeine intake can actually caffeines a
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competitive agonist with some of the
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vasodilating drugs that we use.
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So we ask people to not have caffeine
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for 24 hours before their test.
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Often that's difficult for people to adhere to,
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but we try to push them in that way
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and I can't really stress enough
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how important the team is in this context.
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So you really need an expert technologist,
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a nurse who's comfortable delivering cardiac
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medications and then a physician.
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We have a cardiologist at the scanner at every one
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of these exams just in case something goes bad,
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we have someone onsite ready to sort of intervene
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and monitor any adverse physiology in real time.
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And we have MR compatible real-time,
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physiologic monitoring equipment of course in the room
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with the patient throughout the exam.
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So when we talk about pharmacologic stress, uh, there's kind
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of two main classes of drugs that can perform this.
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One is vasodilators
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and we'll talk about the other here in just a second.
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We tend to do adenosine in most of our patients there.
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The top row
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and a couple of things I want you to focus on here,
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one is the duration of action in this
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and ADINE is, you know, very short duration of action.
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So it's kind of on the image and
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Then within, you know, seconds it's sort of off
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and that's kind of a nice feature of this particular drug.
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The key contraindications of all
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of these generally are bronchospasm.
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So patients with asthma, contraindication, AV block
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and sinus bradycardia we've mentioned
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you can give an antidote to these usually amino
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and that can reverse the effects.
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And I mentioned caffeine actually is a competitive
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agonist with these agents.
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And so if worse comes to worse,
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you could give some one caffeine
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and it may help 'em feel better.
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The other one that we use occasionally is rone.
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The bottom row there. One thing
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that's nice about it is it's got less
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impact on airways at least.
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So sometimes in patients with asthma, uh, you can use it.
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It can also be injected through a single iv,
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which at Dene we usually have two IVs that we
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inject one on each arm.
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And so if you can't get two IVs, sometimes we use rezy,
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same antidote, but note the longer duration.
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So we don't often have to reverse
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or do anything to reverse adenosine.
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If we use rezy, often we give a reversal agent
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or at least consider giving a reversal agent.
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The other pharmacologic agent that we can use is domine,
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which is chronotropic and ionotropic agent.
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And this has been historically used mostly to look
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for regional low motion abnormalities.
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So we don't often use that.
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We opt for one of the vasodilators instead. Here's a basic
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Imaging protocol.
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Uh, you can see compared to our viability, you know,
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we've kind of been building over the course
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of the course from a very basic viability protocol now to a,
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you know, more advanced stress perfusion protocol.
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The big changes here are
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The fact that we do stress perfusion first
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and we do rest perfusion last.
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So what that ends up looking like is
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after we do our long axis syn nase,
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we then deliver the stress agent.
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We use a half dose of gadolinium.
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So whatever weight-based dosing we determine
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we end up using half of it as the stress first pass imaging.
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Then once we complete that, we
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do our short axis syn a images to both give time for some
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of this contrast to wash out
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and also the patient's heart rate to come down, you know,
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after we turn off the stress agent.
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And then we do the resting first-pass perfusion
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after that, this is followed by a short weight period
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and ultimately then we end up doing late gal limb enhanced
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imaging at the end.
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And ideally, you know, it's ends up being, you know,
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probably about 10 minutes or five to seven minutes
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after the rest and 10 to 12 minutes after the stress.
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So hopefully we've given more than enough time for a lot of
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that contrast to wash into any areas of scar.
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One note, the only FDA approved indication
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of gadolinium in cardiac imaging is for stress profusion.
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These gaca studies were recently completed
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and that was what was used to get FDA approval
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for gadolinium and cardiac mr.
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Then it's at a single dose quote,
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single dose 0.1 millimeters per kilogram.
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Gata butal is the agent that was approved
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and that's again approved
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for divided doses in stress imaging.
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I won't get too much into the technique here,
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the technical parameters of the technique,
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but just note that these first pass perfusion techniques
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have a little bit higher spatial resolution
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and we have a temporal resolution of every requiring image.
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We'd like to reconstruct an image about once every
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heartbeat, there's trade-offs to this of course signal
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to noise ratio, like everything in cardiac mr,
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there's always trade-offs.
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But part of the issue with the spatial resolution
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and signal to noise is that
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because you're trying to acquire a lot of data
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relatively rapidly, you kind of have to make decisions about
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how much spatial resolution you need.
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This is can, can be improved
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by imaging acceleration approaches like parallel imaging
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or some novel case-based sampling strategies.
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So you know, over time we anticipate
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and it has happened, that image quality has improved a lot
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in these and and it, I think we'll continue
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to go in that direction.
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We always acquire at least three axial slices.
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So basement and apical slices
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and use a saturation recovery preparation
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pulse before imaging.
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And then you can choose to have AGRE readout
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or an SSFP readout might depend on the
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field strength that you're working at.
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For example, three T probably would necessitate AGRE
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readout, whereas we do a lot of our cases at 1.5 T.
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So we tend to use an SSFP readout in those patients.
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And then, uh, here's the result.
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This is what we have worked to acquire.
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Bottom row is stressed, top row is rest
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and uh, you can see contrast coming into the right side
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of the heart, then filling the left ventricle,
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then perfusing the myocardium.
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And this is exactly what we wanna look at.
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How about interpretation?
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So probably the most important part of any of this
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for people is how do we actually interpret these images?
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So I will say that imaging setup is very important
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and normally still I think the mainstay is a qualitative
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evaluation as opposed to something more quantitative,
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which we'll look at a little bit.
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But we always try to review the rest
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and stress slices together.
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So here you can see my setup,
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stress on the bottom, rest on the top.
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And then we try to sync all these images together
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with contrast timing so
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that we're really watching the myocardium be perfused at
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stress and at rest at the same time.
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And we'll see some examples of that in the cases later.
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And what we're looking for here is perfusion defects.
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So areas where there's low perfusion,
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we can see a nice example here in sort of basal interseptal
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and then kind of mid anterior infra septum
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and circumferential of the apex.
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We see these sub endocardial areas of hypoperfusion
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at stress, we don't see them at rest.
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So these are kind of stress rest mismatch
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or reversible profusion defects.
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That's what we're looking for.
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And then we want to correlate those with late gadolinium
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and enhanced images
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or areas of regional wall motion abnormality.
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So here's the same case now correlating with areas of LGE
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and there's no real LGE in this patient.
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So this is gonna be consistent with ischemia.
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And what do I mean when I talk about a perfusion
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defect? So that just means
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There's no signal in the myocardial segment
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during first pass of contrast
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and they're usually sub endocardial, they should conform
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to a vascular territory most of the time.
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And just a brief overview of the physiology.
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As we know as we discussed earlier,
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the mean arterial pressure is actually low
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during vasodilation due to that epicardial stenosis.
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So we've already kind of maximally dilated our arterials.
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We give a vasodilator they can't dilate anymore
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and so they actually drop their overall pressure and
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because they drop their pressure, they're actually trying
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to maintain an elevated pressure
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so they end up vasoconstricting at that point.
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They're the pressure's too low, they vasoconstrict
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and they vasoconstrict so much
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that they actually block contrast from flowing
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in to those segments.
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So that's the reason that we get hypoperfusion,
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low perfusion or low signal
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or main inject contrast in these areas of ischemia.
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If you get a circumferential area of hypoperfusion,
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there is a differential diagnosis for
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that Dark REM artifact is one, we'll talk a bit about that.
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Balanced ischemia is the other three vessel disease
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and then microvascular disease can manifest is that,
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and you know, if there's one takeaway from this part
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of the talk, this is probably at the slide
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for interpreting stress fusion MR.
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So you've really gotta interpret in context
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of the stress rest and LG E images.
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And obviously if they're all normal then
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that's a normal result.
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If you have a perfusion at stress that isn't present at rest
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and there's no associated LGE in that territory
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and that's consistent with ischemia, if you have uh,
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stress profusion defect and a defect at rest
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and LGE in that territory, then
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that's most consistent with infarction.
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There is a caveat to that piece though
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because if you look at the next row,
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I have their stress defect positive rest negative
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and LGE positive, that's also can be an infarct.
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But the reason that that happens is if you remember we give
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the stress injection of contrast first
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and if you have an infarct even five minutes or so
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after when we start to perform the rest imaging the contrast
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that you injected during stress,
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if there's an infarct there, it will still be taken up
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and sit in that area of infarcted scar.
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And so essentially what your imaging at rest is contrast
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that's in scar kind of the equivalent
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of a late gadolinium enhanced image.
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And that can cause actually a false negative on those rust
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images where it looks like there's
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enhancement but there really isn't.
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And so, so that's the one caveat
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to be aware if you have a stress defect
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and an LGE defect that's probably still an infarct with sort
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of this quote early enhancement phenomenon.
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Then the last category is when you have defects that stress
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and rust, but there's nothing on LGE most often
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that's an artifact most often dark growth.
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So that's, that's the really important takeaways.
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A couple of quality assurance issues
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that you need to be aware of.
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When we give stress, we like
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to see some physiologic response obviously.
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And so increase in heart rate by 10 beats per minute.
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We like the patient to have some symptoms flushing,
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experiencing their heart racing, that type of stuff
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to make sure that they're actually getting
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adequate stress response.
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And then there's something we
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Can look at on our images called the splenic switch off.
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This only works if you're using adenosine,
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it will not work for denin.
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And if you see in columns A
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and B here, so at rest we've given contrast
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and the spleen is bright at stress, we've given contrast
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and the spleen is dark.
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That's a physiologic response related to
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how adenosine affects the splenic vascular
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bed actually reduces flow.
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This is the response that we expect.
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This is what we like to see in a normal case
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where the adenosine is worked
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and these particular columns in C
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and D at rest, you see the spleen is bright at rest,
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at stress when we've given adenosine,
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the spleen is also bright.
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So this is a lack
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of splenic switch off which says the adenosine either did
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not work as well as we hoped it would.
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The patient had caffeine
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and didn't allow the adenosine to work as well as it could
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or the adenosine didn't run in the way that we thought.
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So this is something that you have to interrogate
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'cause it's gonna make your results not reliable.
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We also do motion correction.
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This is particularly important for quantitative perfusion
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where you're trying to do
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quantitative voxel wise comparison.
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You can see the difference between corrected
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and non corrected there.
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It works quite well.
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A lot of us tend to like
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to read qualitatively off the non corrected,
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but the motion corrected looks pretty nice.
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Dark rim artifact, you've heard me mention a few times,
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very important to be aware of.
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That's what looks like a circumferential profusion defect,
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but it's usually present at both stress and rust.
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And a true perfusion defect will kind of persist longer
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through the cardiac cycle.
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Dark REM goes away after a couple of heartbeats
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and there are a few speculation ideas on what the sources
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of this are, but they're really, you know,
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people aren't actually a hundred percent sure why we get
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this degree of dark rem.
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It's probably some type of either susceptibility artifact
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or a kind of any, any type artifact related
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to the blood pool and myocardium border.
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But there are other ideas around what this could be as well.
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But something just to be aware of.
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Last couple of notes here.
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There is a semi-quantitative evaluation where you can start
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to put numbers to the profusion process here.
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The semi-quantitative approach looks at the segmental up
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slopes of various segments of the myocardium.
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So here's for example, the blood pool steepest up slope,
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and then at various myocardial segments you can kind
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of see different UPS slopes here.
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And if you can pair those ratios, the ratios of the segment
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to the blood pool at stress
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and rest, you can get what's called a myocardial perfusion
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reserve index.
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And that can be useful for sort
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of a semi-quantitative approach to
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what segments are actually hyper perfused.
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That technique is probably going to go
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by the wayside though, because increasingly there's programs
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and tools for true quantitative myocardial perfusion.
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And this is actually really exciting.
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We're starting to use this in our practice on a daily basis.
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But what quantitative myocardial perfusion actually does is
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it allows you to have a voxel wise assessment
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of blood flow in the myocardium.
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I won't go into the technique or the math,
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but essentially it looks at the arterial input in the blood
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pool and then looks at how the myocardium is enhanced.
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And it uses some math to sort of understand
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what the actual flow into each of one of those voxels is.
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So there's a few assumptions to be made,
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but the bottom line is it works pretty well
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and there's increasing data to show that.
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And just examples here in single vessels,
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coronary artery disease, you can see areas of
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hypoperfusion at stress and normal at rest.
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Here in sort of this mid infra lateral
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and inferior segment, here's an example of three vessel
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where you see pretty much circumferential hypoperfusion
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here at stress.
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So the stress and rest maps look pretty much the same.
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And so this is three vessel disease.
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And just to wrap up to show you, this is kind of
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what you know when we do this clinically, this is kind
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of the readouts that we get.
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We get segmental information on, flows at stress,
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flows at rest, and then when you divide the flow at stress
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by the flow at rest you can get a perfusion reserve.
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And this should be greater than two, at least for normal.
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So this would be a normal case.