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So our next case is a 44 year old man
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who had multiple cardiovascular risk factors
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and presented to the emergency
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department with acute chest pain.
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He was found to have a STEMI
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and then went to cardiac catheterization
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and was found to have a hundred percent LAD occlusion
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and then underwent stenting of the LAD.
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And then he got, while he was still an inpatient four
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or five days later, they wanted
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to do a quote viability study and assess for complications.
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And so I wanna show this case
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and I'm gonna show the follow-up to show why it's hard
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to assess for viability at such a short time point
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after an acute injury.
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So just looking here at our standard approach, you can see
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probably a little bit of hypokinesis there in the anterior
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mid to apical anterior segments.
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Four chamber actually doesn't look too bad in this case.
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Here's our three chamber, again, some
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of the septal segments towards the mid
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and apical regions are a little bit hypokinetic.
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Moving to our short axis views
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so far, things are moving pretty well.
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Now we're starting to get into the mid region here
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and I, I think you know, this is
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where we're gonna start seeing some relative hypo
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or kinesis here of the anterior segment.
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Anterior septal also seems
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to be a little hypokinetic as we scroll through.
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Everything else appears to be relative or well preserved.
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Similar pattern here as we move on down towards the apex
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here in the apex, you know, we're starting
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to get a little bit more circumferential involvement.
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Again, often the LAD applies sort of the true apex is one
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of these more wraparound type LEDs.
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So not surprising that we're seeing more
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so circumferential involvement here.
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Then if I go to LGE, so you know, this is a person
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who had a hundred percent LID occlusion that was
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reperfused just a couple days before this exam.
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And so as I'm
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Working down from base to apex,
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we see definitely LGE in the kind of
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basal anterior segment.
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And what I want you
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to notice about this LGE in this particular case, you know,
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there's a lot of what looks like enhancement,
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but it's very hazy.
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You know, if you contrast that to some of the true infarcts
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that we've seen on viability cases
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or some of these big territorial infarcts,
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this is quite hazy actually.
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Not a ton of enhancement in terms of intensity.
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But the extent here would be, for example, here in the,
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in the septum, this looks like a hundred percent extent
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of transmural here.
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The whole wall thickness has some
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of this hazy enhancement if you compare it say
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to this portion of myocardium, which is normal.
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So the question in this case is do you call that non-viable?
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Is that what we are sort of stuck with in this case?
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You know, as I'm working back up towards the base here,
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same thing, a lot
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of this looks really transmural in these
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areas that were involved.
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They were hypokinetic.
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And as we get down in the apex, you know, kind
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of similar story, almost full thickness
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enhancement in most of these segments.
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But very sort of like hazy.
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And then of course this was an acute injury, so we wanted
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to look at the T two.
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And uh, not surprisingly in this case,
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particularly in the apex, we see a lot of edema.
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Remember 60 is our cutoff
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and then kind of in the other portions of the LAD territory.
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So basal anterior segment here, anter septal segments
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and the basal mid.
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And in this true apex there is, you know, elevated
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or borderline elevated T two.
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So this is all going with acute myocardial injury.
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So what we sort of said to the referers in this case is,
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you know, we don't feel confident, you know,
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discussing viability on this particular study
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because it's so acute
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and we really think if you wanna understand viability,
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he needs to be brought back,
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the patient needs to be brought back.
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And so they did bring him back three months later
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and I'm gonna show you those
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Examples. Now, the first thing
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that I'm gonna do, I'm just gonna kind
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of skip right through to sort of the functional
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Assessment and, and
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This updated study,
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and we'll work our way through here,
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still feels like maybe there's a little bit of
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relative hypokinesis, but
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that function has almost entirely recovered, which starts
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to make us think that, you know,
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the Walsh abnormalities that we saw
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On Our original study probably were related
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to some degree of myocardial stunning,
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pretty good story for that.
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And so there has been probably some
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functional recovery of those segments.
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If we go now to the LGE, you know, this is
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Just three months later.
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And really even if I, you know, kind of try to really window
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and level it pretty aggressively, the vast majority
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of that hazy LGE that we talked about, you know,
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on the original case has pretty much completely resolved.
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Interestingly, he does have a couple little dots
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of LGE here and there.
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I think maybe we can see these better on a few
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of the long axis views.
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But really the LGE has almost entirely,
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or maybe has entirely resolved even at the apex,
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which we thought was, you know, kind of the most at risk.
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There's one little focus of LGE down here at the apex,
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Which again, you know, may be a,
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just a embolic infarct from his stenting procedure.
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So this is kind of what happens, you know,
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how infarcts can evolve from that acute finding
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where it looks like it could be pretty extensive now
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to a much more, you know,
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looks like really a really successful reperfusion
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with not much residual damage at all.
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And so I think that's an important lesson in terms of,
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you know, you've gotta be realistic with your referers about
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if it's a really acute injury,
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I can't make a good assessment of viability.
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We really need to give it, you know, at least a few weeks,
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if not more, up to a month, two months, three months,
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to really start to understand what's
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gonna be viable and what's not.
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What is enhancement from the acute phase, the edema phase
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of the injury versus what is true scar.
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That's really what we're trying to tease out.