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Today we are honored to welcome Dr. John Jacobson
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for a lecture entitled Ultrasound
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of Peripheral Nerve Entrapment.
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Dr. Jacobson is a board certified musculoskeletal
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radiologist and currently works at Lennox Hill Radiology in
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New York City and University of California San Diego.
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His academic achievements include over 260 peer reviewed
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publications and many invited national
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and international lectures and workshops.
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Dr. Jacobson has been a visiting professor on over 50
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occasions, is president of the Society of Skeletal Radiology
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and has received numerous teaching
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and mentoring awards,
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including the 2023 Distinguished Educator Award.
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He is also the author of the textbook Fundamentals
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of Musculoskeletal Ultrasound
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and we are honored to have him here with us today.
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At the end of the lecture, please join Dr. Jacobson in a q
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and a session where he will address questions you may have
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on today's topic.
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as many as we can before our time is up.
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With that, we are ready to begin today's lecture.
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Dr. Jacobson, please take it from here.
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Okay, great. So I'll be talking about ultrasound
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of peripheral nerve entrapment.
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As an aside, the QR code here will get you to a PDF
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of my syllabus of this lecture.
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I'll also have the QR code at the very end if
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you can't get to your phone.
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Uh, quick enough. Uh, these are my disclosures listed here.
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They are really not relevant to the talk,
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but they are listed nonetheless.
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So first, a few introductory comments about
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ultrasound of peripheral nerves.
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They're best identified in short axis
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because in short axis that's when they appear like this,
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this honeycomb appearance
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where you can see the individual hypo coic, nerve icic
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and the echogenic neck tissue
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around the, the nerve vesicles.
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This is the median nerve in the carpal tunnel.
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Obviously as you scan a nerve more peripherally,
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as the sles will arbor rise
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and move away from the trunk,
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it will get smaller and smaller.
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But when you look at a nerve trunk,
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it's this honeycomb appearance that is characteristic.
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Note here, I'm toggling the transducer
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to help differentiate the adjacent tendons,
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which are hyper coic demonstrating anisotropy.
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Whereas the, the, uh,
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nerve trunk themselves only the connective tissue will
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demonstrate anoscopy.
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So there's much less, uh, anoscopy.
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You can see the nerves and long axis as well.
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But the short axis is really how you identify the nerve
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and how you can officially look at a nerve
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throughout the entire extremity.
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Another comment I wanna make is about nerve compression.
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That's gonna be really
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what I'm emphasizing in this lecture
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on entrapment neuropathies.
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What's been shown in the animal model is
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that when you compress a nerve,
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what happens is there's ischemia
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and the first pathologic change is edema.
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After that you have demyelination and then axonal damage.
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The point here is that inflammation is not present
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with nerve compression.
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So the term neuritis is really a misnomer
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and using that term is actually not very helpful
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'cause it could, uh, trigger the clinician to think
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that injecting steroids can cure the process when really
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there is no inflammatory component at all
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to compressive neuropathies.
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What do we look for by imaging ultrasound and MR imaging?
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What we're looking for is edema.
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Again, that's the first stage of any kind of entrapment
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edema of the nerve.
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And also you'll see enlargement typically in many
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of these locations
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where I'll be talking about nerve entrapment
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and the the swelling
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or enlargement will be at, in proximal
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to the entrapment site, a process
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that's called axonal damming.
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And then the, the edema
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and the enlargement can persist more distally
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that's most pronounced proximal to the
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enclosed fibrosis canal or entrapment site.
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Now when looking at peripheral nerves by ultrasound
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or mr, we always have to be aware
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of the end organ looking at the muscle
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'cause this is a very helpful point
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to determine the nerve distribution that is abnormal,
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but also, uh, tells you the severity of of what's happening.
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So I want to talk about this by ultrasound.
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What we're looking at here is an example
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of atrophy in the upper image.
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So I wanna mention that edema appears hyper coic
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and fatty uh, degeneration
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or infiltration also appears hyper coic.
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So I wanna take a moment about the physics of why both
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of these different processes produce the same finding.
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So if we talk about, let's talk about fatty degeneration
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first, we know pure fat is nearly anti coic.
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It's very hypo coic.
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It's not really shown in this image,
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but there's hypo area here in the subcutaneous area
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that is pure fat.
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You might wonder why is hypo coic muscle
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in hypo coic fat when you mix this together?
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Why does the muscle appear hypo coic?
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Well it comes down to the physics of the image
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because ultrasound,
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we're essentially looking at reflections of interfaces.
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What determines the reflectivity is the speed of sound
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or impedance of the tissues across that interface.
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So even though pure muscles hypoechoic
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pure fat is hypo coic, their speed of sound is different.
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So when they're interdigitated it produces reflections
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because of those differences in speed of sound.
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The same thing happens with edema.
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We know fluid is anti coic by ultrasound,
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but if you mix anti coic fluid with hypo coic muscle,
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the speed of sound is different producing reflexivity.
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Incidentally, muscle fibrosis also appears echogenic
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and even muscle inflammation,
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something I'm not talking about today will also
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appear hyper coic.
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The last point, if you're looking
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for subtle increased genicity of muscle comparative
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to compared to the other side, I've seen cases
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where when you put the trans on the muscle,
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the image looks really bright, you turn the gain down
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so it starts to look like normal muscle.
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What you really wanna do is look at the contralateral
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asymptomatic side,
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set the gain appropriately based on the background light
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of the room and then go to the symptomatic side.
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Alright, so what I'm gonna do in this lecture is run
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through the peripheral nerves, starting
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with the upper extremity,
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covering the entrapment syndromes first, beginning
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with carpal tunnel syndrome.
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Of course the most common entrapment neuropathy
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of the upper extremity.
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Now there are a bunch of numbers
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that are listed which are here on the slide to
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indicate if you needed to, uh, look at the size
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of the area to be more exact.
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With the diagnosis you can do so.
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In fact, when I think about ultrasound
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of peripheral nerve entrapment of of the extremities,
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this is probably the only nerve
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where I will actually measure the area
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because of litigation issues
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and also many insurance companies need more strict criteria
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met to, to approve various treatments
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for carpal tunnel syndrome.
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Anyways, these these are the numbers uh, you may apply.
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Now here's what it would look like.
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The peripheral never will be enlarged and hypo coic.
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Here we see in cross-section the nerve indeed is enlarged
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and the echogenic connected two layers are really
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more hypo coic.
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Globally, the entire median nerve is hypo
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coic in long axis.
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On the right we can use the bone landmark for orientation.
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Here's radius lunate and capitate.
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We can see the enlarged hypo coic nerve going
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underneath the defensive carpal ligament or ret inoculum.
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Some people have coined the term the notch sign.
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It's basically showing a difference in thickness
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related to compression.
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Note the adjacent here, which are more hyper coic
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and fibrillar or fiber like.
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Now if you are to measure the area of a nerve,
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it's done on short axis.
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You wanna toggle the trans define the epineurium,
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which is the white layer surrounding it.
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You wanna find the area of maximum enlargement
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and using circumferential trace, don't try to put an ellipse
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to it or X times y that is inaccurate.
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You wanna trace on the inside of the epineurium
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for the most accurate assessment
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or measurement of the area of the nerve.
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Now one problem about using just a single number to indicate
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what is abnormal, meaning a number
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that you can apply to everyone.
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The problem is someone who's five foot versus six foot
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eight, their nerves are intrinsically different size.
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So this is the, the criterion I use
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to diagnose carpal tunnel syndrome when I'm measuring
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nerve enlargement.
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And you can see the numbers here are really quite good.
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What the paper described as you measured the nerve area
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at its maximal enlargement
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and you compare to the thighs more proximal at the level the
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pronator quadrats.
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If that area increases by two millimeter square
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or more, that's when you get 99% sensitivity.
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100% specificity in the diagnosis of carpal tunnel syndrome.
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Here is another case
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of carpal tunnel syndrome showing nerve enlargement.
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Now most of the time when we see carpal tunnel syndrome,
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there's really no uh, I guess physical finding,
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meaning there's no ganglion cyst
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or there's no uh, synovitis usually in most cases.
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So here's an unusual case, a patient
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with rheumatoid arthritis.
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What we see here is synovitis
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around the flexor tendons associated
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with the carpal tunnel syndrome.
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Now the OAR, technically this is not no synovitis,
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there's no tendon teeth.
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Here is actually ulnar bursa
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that essentially functions like tendon teeth.
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You can still call it you incentivize,
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although it's not completely accurate.
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It's really the ulnar bursa interdigitating
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between the flexor tendons within the carpal tunnel.
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As we leave carpal tunnel syndrome.
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Remember you can have a bifid median nerve is a normal
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variant some people say up to 10% of the time,
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and indeed those can be enlarged
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and hypo coic with carpal tunnel syndrome.
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The criterion used here is four millimeter square.
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If you add the numbers together compared
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to proximal measurement,
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and as an aside, you should not see flow on color
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or power doppler imaging in a normal nerve.
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So that can be another indirect sign
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of carpal tunnel syndrome.
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Moving on to another entrapment syndrome
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of the median nerve pronator tear syndrome.
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What this involves is the median nerve as it passes
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between the two heads of the pronator terrace.
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This is really quite rare.
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This is the only case I've seen
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and uh, what we're looking at here is indeed
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nerve enlargement.
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Now why I think we do not see this well at imaging is
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that unlike the carpal tunnel
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where you have an enclosed fibrosis canal creating this
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axonal damning and edema that's constant.
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This is more of a physiologic entrapment
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where the nerve is compressed but not continually.
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And that's why we don't get this dramatic enlargement
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and edema of the nerve proximal to the entrapment site.
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But this is again, quite rare.
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Moving on to anterior interosseous nerve syndrome,
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there is problems when trying to make this diagnosis
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and then the reason they're twofold, first of all, looking
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for the anti interosseous nerve is challenging
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even in normal people.
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If you put on the color of dopplar imaging,
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it's usually sitting right next to the the art artery here.
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But why this makes this very difficult is the end organ,
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which are the muscles which shrink denervation.
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What that will do, it really obscures the deeper structures.
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It dampens the, the strength of the ultrasound beam.
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So what I find in trying
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to diagnose anterior neurosis nerve syndrome,
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I'm really relying on looking for the end organ
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or the denervation changes also shown here
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on on the MRI.
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Now there is a clinical exam finding that can help you
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to indicate yes, this really is a problem
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if you have them make the okay sign.
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If they cannot make the okay sign, they are not okay.
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So that is the clue to the diagnosis.
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Moving on to the ulnar nerve hurts at the wrist
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in gull's canal
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or the ulnar conal is where we're looking
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for the ulnar nerve being compressed.
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Now you can have an accessory abductor de gene up
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to 24% of the, of wrist.
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I think it's more about 20%,
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but this is what the literature says
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that can cause compression uncommonly,
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you could have what's called hypo
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or hemorrage syndrome where the primary problem is nar nerve
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thrombosis, but you could have edema swelling with
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mild secondary nerve compression.
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So here's an example of an accessory abductor DigiMe.
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What we're looking at here is the pisiform
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is my bone landmark.
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We know in the transfer plane between the ulnar artery
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and the pisiform is the ulnar nerve.
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The ulnar veins are collapsed.
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You should not see any muscle in this area.
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And this is the accessory muscle most commonly going over
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the top of these structures uncommonly introduced
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between the ulnar artery and nerve.
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But you can see here the hypo calic muscle,
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the linear fiber adipose layers
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between the muscle characteristics of normal muscle tissue.
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I've seen ganglion this year uncommonly lipomas.
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It, it's not, it's not very common,
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but you can have masses in the area
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also causing compression.
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Now here's an example of hypo
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or hammer syndrome historically described in Europe
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where people are using their hand to shingle roofs.
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I don't recommend that this is more people falling on their
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hand or people using racket sports.
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And what we see here is thrombosis in the ulnar artery
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and thrombo more.
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The point here is the edema
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and swelling related to the ulnar thrombosis.
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You could have some ulnar nerve symptoms,
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but not truly an entrapment neuropathy per se.
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And here's the companion case.
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This entrapment neuropathy is really between the hook
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of the hammit and the handlebars of a bicycle.
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So this has been called cyclist risk, where having the hand
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or wrist resting on the the,
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the bicycle handlebar will compress the nerve
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between the handlebar
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and the hook of the hammit producing the
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ulnar nerve symptoms.
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Now moving on to the cubital tunnel syndrome,
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the second most common infra neuropathy
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with neuro upper upper extremity.
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Let's look at the anatomy. The true cubital tunnel is this
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canal here where the alt, where the ulnar nerve passes
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underneath the arcuate ligament
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and point between the two heads of the flexor CRI mars.
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Now remember what we're looking for here is edema
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and enlargement at in proximal ENT treatment site.
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So we tend to see this edema more proximal
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behind the mi peon.
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So that's where I'll start imaging, look for the enlargement
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and then look for the uh, transition
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or compression of the nerve
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as we look distally within the true cubital tunnel.
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Here's an example where the nerve is markedly enlarged.
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You look here in, in long axis the nerve getting larger
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and larger emus and then compressed under the RQA ligament.
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Now there are a number here,
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but I have to admit I usually don't need
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or need to measure the, the, the area here.
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And the point here is when you're scanning a peripheral
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nerve, you need to scan the entire nerve.
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However, recognizing there are specific sites in the
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extremity prone to entrapment
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and as you're scanning the nerve in short axis, again that's
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how you identify the nerve.
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The nerves should not enlarge,
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they should arize and get smaller.
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So as you're scanning the nerve in short axis,
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as you approach a fibrosis canal like the cubital tunnel,
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the nerve will start to enlarge and get more hypo coic.
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And then as you enter into the entrapment site,
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the nerve will get smaller.
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So just moving the transistor back
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and forth, even without measuring,
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usually I can subjectively know that there's going
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to be some entrapment neuropathy.
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The second thing is where the nerve is emus enlarged,
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it is very sensitive to ultrasound pressure.
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So by pushing with the transducer it will elicit symptoms
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so you can get that feedback as well.
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So usually I'm making up my diagnosis in short axis alone
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without any measurements.
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Of course, you can look in long axis to complement,
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which I'm showing here
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and you can measure if you choose to do
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so like I do in the carpal funnel.
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Here's an example, I'm ancon.
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When you look at the culet tunnel region here,
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the MRI is turned upside down with the elbow extended.
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You shouldn't see any muscle overlying the area
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of the ulnar nerve.
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And here this is the abnormal situation.
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Remember not to call this a cyst or a mass.
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Recognize the hypo coic muscle and the fibroadipose layers.
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Here is the ulnar nerve.
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But two points I wanna make about this.
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First of all, it is very common to see edema
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of the ulnar nerve without enlargement
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in a normal situation.
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Asymptomatic patients,
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and we see this on MRI as well, it's been shown that
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of all the nerves in the extremities,
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minimal edema on the ulnar nerve without enlargement is a
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combin asymptomatic finding.
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And this can be explained,
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if you think about the nerves in the extremities,
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the ulnar nerve is one nerve
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that really goes through a lot of flexion.
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As you bend the elbows, you're, you know, you're,
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you're going a hundred eighty, two hundred seventy degrees.
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This nerve is making it a tremendous term
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and this is why in theory you can have asymptomatic edema
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of the ulnar nerve but it should not be enlarged.
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The second point I wanna make, you want to scan this area
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with the elbow in extension.
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And that is because when you flex the elbow,
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the biceps comes into view
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and our accuracy in diagnosing this accessory
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muscle goes way down.
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So you want to start with the elbow extended
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or nearly fully extended
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and then make sure that there's no muscle in this area
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indicate this normal variant.
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Now speaking of elbow flexion, when someone has
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NAR nerve symptoms, we're also going to look dynamically
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and look for NAR nerve dislocation.
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Now this can happen in up to 20%
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of asymptomatic individuals, but
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nonetheless we're going to look for this.
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You put the transducer on the media epicon down
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as you flex the elbow norm phy stay behind the epicon down.
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Here's the abnormal situation here.
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It's coming with a top snapping back.
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Don't put too much pressure with the transducer
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'cause you can inhibit the nerve from going back and forth.
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So obviously the nerve snapping in
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and out, that can cause some edema of the nerve
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and irritation also having the nerve out
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of its normal protected area predisposes it
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to direct impact injuries.
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Now when we're looking at the ulnar nerve for dislocation,
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we have to be aware of what's called snapping tricep
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syndrome in this scenario indeed the ulnar nerve dislocates,
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but there's an additional finding.
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The medial head of the triceps shows subluxation.
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And I'll show you what this looks like
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and your yours on the left.
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I'm gonna start the thin clip.
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Here's the medi condyle
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and a neutral position here is the only nerve.
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Now I'm gonna flex and look what happens.
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Dislocated nerve snapping of the triceps
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and as we extend the elbow we can see both
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of these coming back to their normal location.
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Why this is important to consider is clinically this may be
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difficult to to pick up
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so many times the only nerve dislocation is easily felt
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clinically, but this can be problematic.
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There's one case that comes to mind of a violinist who, uh,
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went to surgery for all nerve dislocation,
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didn't have imaging after the nerve, uh,
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trans transposition, uh, the patient still had symptoms.
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Patient came back for our imaging
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and the patient had snapping triceps
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that was not in anticipated, had to go back
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for a second surgery to debride the muscle.
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So it's important to consider this where both
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of these structures are abnormally moving over the menon.
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Okay, moving to the radial nerve
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and posterior interosseous nerve syndrome.
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When we follow the radial nerve between the brachialis
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and brachial radis,
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it will divide into a superficial and deep branch.
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When the deep branch goes between the two layers
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of the supinator under an edge of connective kit, uh,
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tissue called the Arcadia fros, that is
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where the entrapment occurs.
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The nerve looking for edema
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and enlargement at end proximal to the entrapment site,
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the deep branch will go into the supinator
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and exit as the posterior
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ous nerve in the dorsal part of the forum.
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So it's interesting, many people will divide this into two
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subtypes of syndrome, supinator syndrome,
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and radial tunnel syndrome for Supinator syndrome.
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That's when there are motor deficits.
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Abnormal electrodiagnostic studies
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and imaging will show nerve enlargement and edema.
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Ultrasound and mr this is what we typically see
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where we see the normal nerve on this contralateral side
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here we see enlargement
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and edema as it goes at the edge of the AAD fro
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between the two layers of the supinator.
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Now radial tunnel syndrome is more problematic.
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Patients have pain but there are no motor deficits,
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normal electrodiagnostic studies and no nerve enlargement.
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However, we do see muscle denervation on mr.
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So that's why if I'm scanning for, uh,
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PostIt interosseous nerve syndrome on ultrasound,
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if it's normal, I'll have them go to MR.
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Knowing that it is more sensitive on MR
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to see this subtle muscle edema
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that could indicate radial tunnel syndrome.
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Moving on to Wartenberg syndrome,
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looking at the superficial sensory branch
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of the radial nerve toward the forearm and wrist.
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Now we can easily find the superficial branch
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of the radial nerve as it courses over
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the first risk compartment.
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Of course, this is where we look for tenitis.
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Here's the honeycomb
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or speckled appearance
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of the superficial branch for the radial nerve.
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We, this is not the site of wardenberg syndrome,
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but I just wanted to highlight
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where you can identify the nerve easily.
23:57
Where I tend to see problems here is a hematoma
24:00
and compression due to any puncture injury, et cetera.
24:04
So this is more
24:05
of a traumatic problem more than wardenberg syndrome.
24:10
But looking at wardenberg syndrome, this is more,
24:12
more proximal to the forum, still the distal part.
24:16
And what we're looking at is where the nerve comes out, uh,
24:20
over the uh,
24:21
brachial radiology under the EC carpe radiologist.
24:25
And when the hand is pronated, that's
24:28
where the compression occurs.
24:29
And here we can see the hallmark of an entrapment neuropathy
24:33
or compression, which is edema
24:35
and enlargement at the compression site.
24:38
So sometimes finding the nerve at
24:40
this location is challenging.
24:41
That's why I started by saying
24:43
where you could find the nerve more proximally,
24:45
then you can move, sorry, more distally
24:48
and then move proximal.
24:49
You can always look at the elbow and
24:51
and then track it distally that way as well.
24:53
But this is the finding that we see
24:55
with Wharton Bird syndrome.
24:58
Interesting. The upper extremity looking at the
25:01
suprascapular nerve really related
25:03
to a paralabral gang leaf cyst,
25:05
we use the term paralabral cyst to indicate
25:08
that this is caused by a labral tear
25:11
where joint fluid will come out of a joint,
25:13
usually labral detachment producing, uh, the cyst.
25:18
They can occur in the spinal glenoid notch
25:20
where you would have downstream atrophy
25:22
of the in infraspinatus
25:24
or you can have it at the suprascapular notch affecting more
25:28
approximately therefore the supraspinatus.
25:30
And in infraspinatus.
25:32
And here's the labrum, here's the glenoid,
25:35
here's the humeral head.
25:38
We're not that great in looking for labral tears
25:40
with ultrasound, but
25:41
nonetheless, if you see a multilocular cyst at the base
25:45
of the labrum, look carefully for the labral care
25:48
and usually you can adjust it at least here.
25:51
Incidentally, the infraspinatus muscle is
25:55
emus showing increased genic on ultrasound.
25:58
Therefore denervation changes as you know,
26:01
the earliest signs of denervation is edema.
26:04
And then later on is
26:05
where you'll see fatty infiltration or degeneration.
26:08
And finally atrophy
26:10
where there's decreased size of the muscle.
26:12
Now when performing ultrasound for a paralabral cyst,
26:16
we have to be aware of normal suprascapular vein
26:19
dilatation or dilation.
26:22
Here's the normal shoulder looking at the infra muscle
26:25
and tendon humeral head labrum and the posterior glenoid.
26:29
Here's where we're gonna look for the scapular nerve.
26:33
Now look what happens. As we accidentally rotate,
26:36
we see normal suprascapular vein dilation.
26:41
So if this, if I froze this image right here,
26:45
this looks almost exactly like a pair of labral cys.
26:50
Now how you can differentiate this from a tru cyst, uh,
26:55
don't rely on color doppler tracing.
26:58
The flow is so slow with this dilation
27:00
that even the waveforms are negative.
27:03
But the key is what I'm showing here,
27:05
this is a transient finding,
27:07
meaning when you internally rotate, it collapses.
27:11
When you x-ray rotate it dilates, you will not see
27:14
that happening with a paralabral cyst.
27:17
Those are somewhat tense, they're under pressure.
27:21
The fluid is is quite uh, viscous.
27:24
It's not going to fully collapse like this.
27:26
That's how you make this extinction.
27:30
Okay, moving on to the lower extremity.
27:32
First, speaking with the perineal nerves.
27:35
I recognize the newer graduates from medical school are
27:39
using the term fibular nerve.
27:41
Um, but nonetheless I'm still using the term perineal,
27:44
starting with the common perineal nerve.
27:47
As you know, this tracks behind the the biceps fems,
27:50
which is cut here to show the nerve.
27:52
One potential infra site is when it goes
27:56
between the fibula and the perineal long muscle.
28:00
Of course we know that a fracture
28:01
of the fibula can produce injury.
28:04
I'm gonna show a companion case of stretching injury
28:06
with a nerve dis a knee dislocation.
28:09
But for entrapment neuropathy, focus on first.
28:15
Here's an example here is the fibula.
28:18
And as I start the cine clip you can see the nerve getting
28:21
enlarged as it goes underneath the proximal as back
28:25
of the peroneal long.
28:27
This was a golfer who developed foot drop.
28:30
There was no trauma, it just he with his activity,
28:34
this became enlarged
28:36
and it set up this entrapment neuropathy and his foot drop.
28:42
Now here's a companion case, not an entrapment neuropathy
28:44
but nonetheless I wanna show it for completeness sake.
28:47
This is a patient who had a knee dislocation.
28:50
We can see edema here of the commissural nerve
28:54
compared to the nerve.
28:55
So of course we can't forget to look for that.
28:58
And here it's the tibial nerve, it's a speckled appearance
29:01
and the EMS appearance of the uh, common perennial nerve.
29:06
And as I start the thinning clip, you'll see
29:08
how enlarged this nerve gets compared to the tibial nerve.
29:14
Sorry, the arrows are, are not moving as they did.
29:17
But nonetheless you get the idea that
29:22
this is hypo coic thick compared
29:24
to the normal particular appearance.
29:26
Here it is in long axis.
29:28
Again, nerves should stay the same size
29:30
or our horizon get smaller.
29:31
They shouldn't get larger and definitely not hypoechoic.
29:36
Now somewhat of an entrapment neuropathy, what's more
29:39
of a compressive neuropathy has to do
29:41
with the perineal intraoral ganglion cyst.
29:44
This is a really interesting phenomenon really
29:48
describing other nerves.
29:49
This by far is the most common nerve that we see.
29:51
This what will happen is a patient may have a palpable mass
29:56
at the fibular neck or head region.
30:00
Now typically when a patient develops foot drop,
30:03
many times it's assumed clinically
30:05
that it is just incidental.
30:07
And it we see this with patients who cross their legs maybe
30:12
with trauma or with with weight loss
30:14
because they're more likely
30:16
to compress the nerve externally.
30:18
But one must realize that almost up to 20% of those patients
30:22
with foot drop, this is due to an intradural ganglion cyst.
30:26
Now what is interesting, unlike the idiopathic variety
30:29
with people with weight loss, we see this with patients
30:33
with a high body mass index.
30:35
And let me explain why this relates
30:38
to the intraoral ganglia cyst.
30:42
So first of all, uh, we know
30:45
that the fib fibular joint connects
30:47
to the knee joint in about 20% of the population.
30:50
And what has been shown that if you have a high BMI,
30:54
you're more likely to have uh,
30:56
osteoarthritis or a cartilage problem.
30:58
Therefore you're more likely to have a joint effusion.
31:02
And with a high BMI, you're more likely to have
31:04
that joint effusion under pressure.
31:07
And if you're one of those 20% where
31:09
that need joint connected to the proximal uh, ular joint,
31:14
then joint will be pushed into this joint.
31:17
And if that happens chronically,
31:19
what will happen in some people is
31:22
that fluid will be pushed into the articular branch of
31:26
of the branch
31:27
and then this fluid can track into the common peral nerve.
31:32
Basically that's the pathophysiology
31:35
of a perineal intraoral ganglion cyst.
31:38
It's been shown that if you inject contrast into the knee
31:40
joint, not necessarily the tibial filar joint knee joint,
31:44
it can actually connect into this ganglion cyst.
31:48
And like all ganglion cyst all over the body,
31:51
it's a multilocular hypo coic anti coic collection
31:55
of fluid connecting to a joint.
31:57
Somehow this one is connecting via a nerve.
32:01
We talked about the paralabral cyst where
32:04
that ganglion type cyst connects to the shoulder joint
32:07
al joint through label detachment or tear.
32:10
So back to this by MRI, this can be challenging.
32:15
It's been called a signet ring sign
32:17
where you see a small ganglion fist next
32:20
to the common perineal nerve.
32:22
Here it is tracking along the articular branch.
32:25
Now why this is challenging on MRI, first of all,
32:28
if the history says pain, this almost looks like one
32:31
of these veins in the subcutaneous fat,
32:33
hopefully the the history will guide you to the problem
32:37
'cause it can be subtle when they're small.
32:39
Here on the ultrasound the typical appearance
32:42
of a ganglion cyst, multilocular, hypo
32:45
or antico, we see a tracking along the fibular neck
32:49
and tracking along the common perineal nerve.
32:53
Now here's a companion case.
32:55
This is an extended field of view.
32:57
These are one centimeter markers here,
32:59
this thing was over 15 centimeters going
33:01
into the satic nerve.
33:05
So what we see here is the multi fluid collection
33:10
and I'm showing here now the effect of that,
33:13
the fatty infiltration and edema of the common
33:16
or the extensor muscles of the leg.
33:18
And here we see denervation edema on the MRI.
33:23
So these can be quite enlarged.
33:27
Continuing now to the superficial peroneal nerve.
33:31
Now this site is prone for entrapment where it pierces the
33:36
curl fascia of the leg,
33:37
approximately nine centimeters up from the fibula.
33:40
And that is the typical site
33:43
and what we'll look for, just like any intra neuropathy,
33:45
edema and enlargement.
33:49
But here's a case where I was scanning this young lady's
33:52
ankle and the history was pain.
33:55
I went through my entire ankle
33:57
protocol looking at the tendons and ligaments
33:59
and joint et cetera.
34:00
And everything was completely normal.
34:03
And what I typically do, especially in the ankle,
34:05
in the foot and the wrist, in the hand when I'm scanning
34:08
someone with ultrasound, I'll ask them to point where
34:11
with one finger where the problem is
34:13
or explain what's going on.
34:15
And what she said was that I have pain
34:18
and numbness shooting down my leg.
34:20
So of course when you hear that history,
34:22
you think this is a nerve problem.
34:24
And I said, please explain more.
34:26
And she said, whenever I am exercising
34:29
or she was actually a ballet dancer, uh,
34:33
this would create the problem.
34:35
So I asked her to reproduce the symptoms
34:38
and what I saw here was the superficial
34:43
branch of the perineal nerve going enlargement
34:46
as it comes out under the fascia.
34:49
And at the site there was a muscle hernia.
34:52
So this was a muscle hernia creating this,
34:55
this entrapment at the entrapment site.
34:59
So the resolution of ultrasound showed the nerve problem
35:03
and the interaction with the patient of course,
35:06
and the dynamic imaging brought out the muscle hernia,
35:09
which was really contributing
35:11
or I would say causing the nerve entrapment
35:14
at its entrapment site.
35:17
And we know muscle hernias occur in the lower extremity,
35:19
most commonly the tibia s anterior
35:21
where you have penetrating vessel vessels,
35:23
which is weakening the fascia.
35:25
Alright, moving on to the tibial nerve.
35:30
The tibial nerve. Remember it's not the posterial nerve that
35:33
that's, that's an incorrect term.
35:35
There's only one tial nerve and here it comes down here
35:39
and it has different ways it can bifurcate an arbor rise.
35:44
It gives off a medial calcaneal branch,
35:46
which is sensory in the subcutaneous fat of the heel.
35:50
Then you have the two larger branches, the medial
35:52
and lateral plantar nerves.
35:55
Sometimes all three come off at the same time
35:57
as a trifurcation.
35:59
And then you have the inferior calcaneal nerve
36:02
and you call it Baxter nerve, which is the first branch off
36:05
of the lateral plantar nerve.
36:07
This one is really difficult to identify an ultrasound.
36:11
These two are easy. This one you can typically see now
36:16
because this is an enclosed base, this is
36:19
where we're prone to entrapment.
36:21
By far the most common cause of entrapment is a gangly cyst.
36:25
You can have other causes, masses, et cetera,
36:28
but it's really, that is the problem.
36:30
Now side point I wanna make, if you
36:35
consider all the entrapment neuropathies
36:36
that I've talked about so far in both extremities,
36:40
the one entrapment
36:41
that creates the most dramatic nerve enlargement is
36:44
cubital tunnel syndrome.
36:46
On the other end of the spectrum, the one where I've,
36:48
I've not yet to date seen enlargement
36:51
of the tibial nerve is the tarsal tunnel.
36:54
And this can be explained
36:56
by the pathophysiology of the edema.
36:59
Remember the edema is due to what's called axonal damming.
37:02
So it turns out the enlargement edema is proportional
37:06
or indirectly, sorry, inversely proportional to the size
37:10
of the entrapment space.
37:13
So the cubital tunnel is a very narrow space.
37:15
That's why the ulnar nerve is dramatically enlarged.
37:18
The tarsal tunnel is one of the largest spaces
37:21
that the nerves pass through.
37:23
So that's why we do not see enlargement.
37:26
And I've actually not seen a emon MRI as well in spite
37:29
of a clinical finding
37:31
and even a ganglion cyst pushing on the nerve.
37:33
There's just so much space there that it's
37:36
that we don't see the dramatic features of edema
37:39
and enlargement like the other nerves.
37:42
Uh, carpal tunnel syndrome's another one not as striking
37:45
as culet tunnel,
37:47
but definitely in this area in tar tarsal tunnel.
37:51
Don't expect the nerve to look abnormal.
37:53
You really wanna look for the cause of the entrapment.
37:57
Another point when you're scanning, don't scan in this area
38:00
because you can have problems more distally.
38:02
I'm gonna show a case of a ganglion cyst from the anterior
38:05
sub joint that was presenting as tarsal tunnel syndrome.
38:09
And the problem was actually beyond the tarsal tunnel.
38:12
So first of all, normal here's showing the
38:15
trifurcation of the tibial nerve.
38:17
We're showing the medial calcaneal branch
38:20
and then the lateral and medial plantar nerve,
38:23
which is the um, arborization of the tibial nerve
38:29
here taken from the literature showing the inferior
38:32
calcaneal nerve here between the abductor and the quadros.
38:37
Plenty. Now even with mr,
38:39
I still have not seen an abnormality of this nerve.
38:43
What I do rely on with ultrasound
38:45
and MRI is the end organ of this nerve.
38:49
What we're looking for here is basically edema
38:53
and fatty atrophy of the abject digital quinty.
38:58
Now remember there are different levels of entrapment
39:01
of the inferior calcaneal nerve.
39:04
Actually the more common one is going to be a, uh,
39:07
plantar aosis
39:08
and ified spur where the nerve tracts under that.
39:12
We can't see that with ultrasound anyways.
39:15
So just be aware that this nerve is hard to see
39:17
and that's why when I'm looking at the TORS tunnel region
39:20
and any for medially for nerve symptom,
39:23
look at the abductor dig quinty for fatty infiltration
39:27
or edema as a to some kind of entrapment, more proximally.
39:33
I already mentioned this ganglion cyst is
39:36
by far the most common rarely these other items
39:40
and I just talked about the length
39:42
real nerve is usually relatively normal.
39:46
Here is a larger talked to ganglion cyst,
39:49
again cyst all over the body.
39:51
He had the same pathophysiology and they look the same.
39:54
The pathophysiology is joint fluid, most commonly coming
39:58
through a defect in the capsule of the joint.
40:02
And you have fluid pushing it out into the soft tissues,
40:05
forming a multilocular hypo IC collection.
40:09
Here with through transmission the flu can be very viscous
40:13
like these little doc shown here.
40:15
And here the tibial nerve is being displaced
40:18
or the tibial nerve is otherwise normal in size
40:22
and echogenicity.
40:26
Now here is that companion case
40:28
where the caral toleration was completely normal,
40:31
but as I scanned more distally, I saw
40:34
that the medial plantar nerve was displaced
40:37
by the soft tissue ganglion.
40:38
This coming from the anterior subtalar joint here,
40:43
the middle face set of the anterior uh, anterior uh, joint
40:48
and the nerve was irritated.
40:49
You pushed on the transducer
40:51
and the patient, yes, you're eliciting the symptoms.
40:53
So you get that feedback telling, uh, telling us
40:56
that we're in the correct area.
40:59
Now here's a rare example of soft tissue varice
41:03
creating tarson syndrome.
41:05
Now I don't know
41:06
how many vessels should be considered abnormal.
41:09
I haven't seen that literature either.
41:11
I basically compared to the other side
41:14
and this was like I saw 10 different
41:16
vessels compared to two.
41:18
So I know it was asymmetric
41:20
and the patient had tarsal tunnel syndrome.
41:23
So this was a suggestion of the cause.
41:25
There was no other cause for it. So we presume that.
41:28
So I'm just saying this is a subjective finding I would
41:31
compare to the other side.
41:35
Okay, finally, in the next four
41:37
and a half minutes, I'm going
41:39
to cover a common plantar nerve.
41:42
So first the anatomy. Now this is very important as we sort
41:46
through how to image interal aromas.
41:49
The key here is this transverse manar ligament connecting
41:52
the plantar bursa.
41:55
The inner metatarsal bura is dorsal to
41:58
that in the metatarsal heads
42:00
where the neurovascular structure are plantar,
42:03
they're in different locations.
42:04
These two things because of this inner metatarsal,
42:09
or sorry, transverse metatarsal um, ligament.
42:13
So that's why I scan plantar.
42:15
So interdigital nerves, uh, neuromas,
42:18
this is really an entrapment.
42:19
The common plantar digital nerve branches, edema,
42:22
fibrosis and necrosis.
42:24
Third, more than second inter spaces females
42:27
and wearing high heels.
42:29
Um, someone with more pliable foot, whatever that means
42:33
to narrow toe box shoes will do it.
42:35
They can matic up to a third
42:37
and especially if they're under five millimeter measuring
42:41
medial to later.
42:43
Now what's interesting, people use the term marching aroma
42:47
freely and actually many times incorrectly.
42:50
I know because I had done that for a long time.
42:53
I now am corrected where the only neuroma
42:56
that is a Morton neuroma is the third inner space.
42:59
The other ones have other names.
43:02
So what I've learned through the years is I never wanna use
43:04
an epi member again,
43:06
that way I know I won't use it incorrectly.
43:08
Uh, you can use them, but I think it's kind of,
43:11
oh whatever I I just call 'em interventional aromas
43:14
and indicate the web space.
43:18
Okay, so scanning from a plantar aspect, I again want
43:22
to highlight the location
43:24
of a bursa versus an aroma in white.
43:28
Here we have the transverse metatarsal ligament.
43:31
We know that the inter metatarsal bura is dorsal
43:34
between the metatarsal heads.
43:37
The pathophysiology is that the plantar digital nerve.
43:40
When it course over the edge of this
43:43
transverse metatarsal ligament, that's
43:46
where the neuroma forms, therefore the neuroma will be more
43:49
distal and more plantar at the edge of this ligament.
43:55
So here on MRI
43:56
and ultrasound, we can see the neuroma
44:00
a dumbbell appearance.
44:01
It's plantar. Remember, more torso is going to be the bursa.
44:05
There are different locations here.
44:08
It's hard to tell the difference.
44:09
I'll explain how we can, but this is the neuroma
44:12
and this is the bursa.
44:14
And what's interesting that's not interesting.
44:17
When I'm in, when I, when I'm interpreting Mr,
44:21
I really rely on this now I really rely on this long axis
44:25
view of the metatarsals.
44:28
Knowing that the pathophysiology in aroma goes
44:32
beyond the transverse metatarsal ligament.
44:35
A bursa usually will not extend that far.
44:39
So unless it's dramatically enlarged this,
44:42
not only this pedunculated appearance going,
44:45
I really rely on it going distal as well.
44:49
Alright, let's get to the ultrasound.
44:53
Now when I'm scanning it from a plantar approach,
44:56
here is the edema of the nerve coming over the top
45:00
of the transverse metatarsal ligament.
45:03
Note that the bursa is more koic
45:05
and it's oral to the ligament nerve
45:08
as it comes over the edge of the ligament forms the neuroma.
45:11
So the neuroma is more distal and more plantar.
45:16
They look different. Also when you perform the ultrasound,
45:19
the verse is often compressible
45:21
and this is minimally if all compressible.
45:26
Alright, three steps. How I perform this ultrasound.
45:29
I always have my finger on the other side playing the
45:33
apart and applying pressure.
45:37
And the normal interdigital space will be low level echoes
45:40
like this fibro fatty tissue.
45:43
Here's the abnormal situation, hypo mass like area.
45:48
And what's important is when you're scanning this transverse
45:51
line hearts that you scan distally as well saying
45:56
perpendicular to the metatarsal heads and going distally.
45:59
Again, that's where the,
46:00
where the aroma is of the three steps.
46:02
This one is the least accurate, right?
46:05
Then go to step two looking long axis.
46:08
And that's where I wanna show exactly what I mentioned.
46:11
The, the aroma is going over the edge of the ligament.
46:15
The bursa is more proximal and dorsal and more an coic
46:18
but through transmission in most scenarios.
46:21
Here's an on MRI, there's an aroma, there's the bura.
46:25
They are different locations and they look differently.
46:30
Here's a companion case.
46:31
Here's the transverse metatarsal ligament.
46:34
Thema the nerve going into it. And here's the birthstone.
46:37
And again, this is minimally, there's minimal fluid.
46:39
This is not even concurred bursitis based on the size at
46:43
least 'cause you're allowed up to three millimeters
46:47
and uh, menial lateral to be considered normal.
46:50
Then finally, step three,
46:51
the most important molder maneuver.
46:53
This is a clinical sign
46:54
that if you squeeze the foot from side to side,
46:57
that there'll be a painful click
46:58
of the neuroma moving in a plantar direction.
47:01
Here's what we're looking at. There's the aroma.
47:04
This is normal. As we squeeze from side to side,
47:08
what we're seeing is plantar displacement of the neuroma.
47:12
That's why I scan plantar. I'm looking for three things.
47:16
One, you see the neuroma moving, you feel the click.
47:21
And three, are you reproducing the symptoms via all three?
47:24
You're a hundred percent accurate,
47:25
but look how better we can see this neuroma
47:29
and we can measure it accurately.
47:31
The bursa will not do this. Why?
47:33
Because it's held in a al location by the transverse
47:37
metatarsal ligament.
47:38
So again, the anatomy is key to understanding the difference
47:41
between a neuroma and a bura.
47:43
Finally, last slide before the summary here.
47:47
Remember peri capsular fibrosis related
47:49
to PLA plantar plate injury.
47:51
It can simulate CC an MR perhaps in aroma,
47:55
although we wouldn't fall into that pitfall.
47:57
We can see that the capsule here is missing it's ated,
48:00
it's form compared to here where it merged
48:03
with the plantar plate and
48:04
by ultrasound it's really hugging the metatarsal
48:08
point and not in between.
48:10
Importantly, you would not have a positive molders maneuver
48:14
with periocular fibrosis.
48:18
Come point entrapment.
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They occurred specific areas, the hallmark edema
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and enlargement at en proximal the entrapment site.
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Next thing, when you push on the emus nerve,
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they will tell you you're in the right location.
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Reproducing symptoms. This compliments
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electrodiagnostic testing.
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I've highlighted the use
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of dynamic imaging looking at snapping ulnar,
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nerve snapping tricep syndrome,
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also the molder maneuver in the foot as well.
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And the final point, although I'm highlighting the locations
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of entrapment neuropathy,
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you should scan the entire nerve in the
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extremity in short axis.
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It takes a minute to do. It's so easy.
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The reason is, although clinically
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it may be suspected someone has an entrapment neuropathy,
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you could have a nerve, the nerve sheath tumor
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or something, uh, in other locations.
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So you may start at an entrapment site,
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but you should scan the entire nerve to cover everything
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between the entrapment sites in short axis.
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That can be done very efficiently.
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Again, with this QR code is gets you to where my, uh,
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syllabus material is.
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There's all, there's other educational material,
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usually ultrasound things you can consider
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looking to that if you wish.
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I wanna thank you very much for your attention
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and now I can take some questions.
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Yes, thank you so much Dr. Jacobson.
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At this time we will open the floor
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for any questions from our audience
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and you may submit your questions
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through the q and a feature.
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Uh, the first one is share the PDF, uh,
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hopefully you got that QR code.
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Um, I can put try one more time if you like.
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I'll see if there's any other questions
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that pop up in the meantime.
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Okay, well I'm not seeing any questions.
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That's either a good sign or a bad sign.
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I presume it's a good sign.
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So thorough. So thorough that everyone's like, yeah, I
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Understand. So what I,
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on my website Ms. My is my email.
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You can email me any questions and I can,
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and I can answer anything, uh, offline, not offline,
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but outside of this, this webinar. Okay,
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Well awesome. Thank you
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so much again for sharing your lecture with us.
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Uh, Dr. Jacobson, oh,
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a question did just pop in into the q and a. If you got
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Oh, I, I almost got out of it.
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Okay. Which peripheral nerve entrapment is most difficult
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to diagnose and I think anterior interosseous nerve is
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by far the most because the nerve is small
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and the muscle is so, uh, epigenic from the effect of that
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that I just can't, I can't penetrate to it.
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That by far is the most difficult.
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The easiest would be the one
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where the nerves are most enlarged would be number one,
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cual tunnel number two carpal tunnel.
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Uh, I think, uh, tarsal tunnel is challenging
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'cause the nerve looks normal, but you just have
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to keep looking all around for a ganglion cyst some other
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cause those are the ones that really come to mind.
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The, the interal aroma is challenging,
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but that's why I feel
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that molar maneuver really helps save the day on that one.
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So that's just some information on my feeling on the most
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difficult, uh, nerves to scan for entrapment.
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Alright, well thank you so much Dr. Jacobson
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