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Hello, and welcome to Noon Conference hosted by Modality.
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Noon Conference connects the global radiology community through free live
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alongside top radiologists from around the world.
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Today, we are honored to welcome Dr.
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Richard Barger for a lecture entitled "MSK Ultrasound: Common
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Entities and Key Imaging Findings." Dr.
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Barger completed his radiology residency and musculoskeletal
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radiology fellowship at William Beaumont Hospital.
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He is an MSK radiologist at University Hospitals Cleveland Medical
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Center, where he is the medical director of MRI and lead
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musculoskeletal ultrasound. He has special interest in medical
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education, MSK ultrasound, informatics, and advanced
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MSK MRI imaging.
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Barger in a Q&A session where he will address questions you may have on today's
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get to as many as we can before our time's up.
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With that said, we are ready to begin today's lecture. Dr.
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Barger, please take it from here.
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Thank you for the invitation.
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Today, we're going to do a very fundamental overview of musculoskeletal
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ultrasound. Hopefully, there's everything here for the beginner
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to see,
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as well as some pearls for those that may already do musculoskeletal
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ultrasound.
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I have no conflicts of interest, and we're going to go ahead and get right
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into the fundamental principles.
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So first, we need to do an overview of
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what things look like on musculoskeletal ultrasound.
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So this is a table that highlights everything.
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I will go into a little more detail as we course
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through the different structures you may see on musculoskeletal
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ultrasound.
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So first and foremost, tendons and ligaments, as seen on musculoskeletal
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ultrasound, are hyperechoic and demonstrate a fibrillar
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architecture. Here we see the biceps tendon on this image
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demonstrating the well-organized fibrillar
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architecture and the hyperechogenicity.
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I
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find muscles to be a little harder and demonstrate more
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variability.
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And this graphic here demonstrates what we typically see
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of skeletal muscle on musculoskeletal ultrasound.
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So in the transverse projection,
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we have what is known as the starry night pattern.
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So there is a hyperechoic background studded with bright
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hyperechoic specks, which make up the connective tissue septa of
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the perimysium and endomysium.
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And then there are hyperechoic epimysial fascial
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layers in between. In the
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longitudinal direction, we demonstrate the pennate
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fiber pattern. So we have the oblique fascicle
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lines with thin, evenly spaced fascicles,
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and we're able to make some pennate angle
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measurements,
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and that's particularly helpful for dynamic musculoskeletal
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imaging of the muscles, which I really won't cover during this.
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And here is a composite layered view demonstrating all of the
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layers of which we see with the starry night
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pattern, the overlying skin, and the superficial fat and
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fascia, and the underlying bone.
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As far as structure is concerned, there are different muscle
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architectures. So we have our parallel, our strap
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muscles, our unipennate muscles, our bipennate muscles, and
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our multipennate muscles.
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There is a grading system to look for the echogenicity
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of muscles. It's known as the Heckmatt grading scale.
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And typically, what we expect to see is low
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muscle echogenicity with the clearly
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reflective bone in the far field,
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with just the normal perimysial speckling only.
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As we get more atrophy seen in the
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muscle, there is increasing echogenicity, and we
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lose the visualization of the bone.
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So this is an example of a normal muscle, excluding this near field
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finding, which I'll discuss a little later.
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We see our fascicular architecture with
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the muscles demonstrating the epimysial
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hyperechogenicity with the intervening areas
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of the normal muscle demonstrating hypoechogenicity.
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So some fundamental pathologic muscle findings and
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pitfalls. So we do grade our muscles by Grade 1, Grade 2,
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and Grade 3 tears. So we look for a hypoechoic hematoma or
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focal defect distorting the fascicular pattern.
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You can see muscular dystrophy where we have muscle replacement
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with fat.
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Inflammatory myopathy is typically seen as diffuse areas
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of increased echogenicities with patchy areas of
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hypoechogenicity and perifascial and intramuscular
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edema.
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Denervation or neurogenic atrophy, we see
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reduced muscle bulk with increased echogenicity in the
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muscle due to the fatty replacement.
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Again, intramuscular hematoma acutely will be
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a hyperechoic collection, and as the
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hematoma evolves,
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it will become
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more hypoechoic or mixed echogenicity and eventually resolve over
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time. I will tell you, one of my principles with hematomas is that
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I do follow them to resolution. And then calcific
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myositis and
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And myositis ossificans, obviously, we're going to get areas
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of calcification within the musculature that are
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hyperechoic with shadowing. So when we're looking at muscles, we want to
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watch our gain settings because that can affect the echogenicity.
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If it's too high, it can make the muscle appear falsely abnormal.
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Subcutaneous fat will attenuate the beam, making the muscles
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appear more hypoechoic when normal.
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You can get post-exercise artifacts.
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So if somebody's been exercising, you can actually get transient increased
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echogenicity in the muscle. And the one artifact I will talk about is
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anisotropy.
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Moving on to some different structures.
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So hyaline articular cartilage is hypoechoic to anechoic in nature,
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as we see it here on this Taylor dome image, the
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hypoechoic hyaline articular cartilage.
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Fibrocartilage is hyperechoic, and this is an image
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on ultrasound through the medial meniscus.
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Peripheral nerves is another commonly assessed thing on musculoskeletal
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ultrasound, and this figure here demonstrates what we typically
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see. So in cross-sectional area, we have the
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hypoechoic fascicles ensheathed by the
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perineurium. And then we have the hyperechoic
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epineurium that goes around the entire nerve and gives us what we call our
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honeycomb pattern. In the longitudinal
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axis, we see the parallel tract appearance,
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and what we get is the alternating bright and dark parallel lines,
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representing the fascia and the nerves.
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And again, the outer hyperechoic area is the epineurial border.
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There is anisotropy with nerves, but it is not to the same degree
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as tendons and ligaments. So we can
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use
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ultrasound to differentiate between those, particularly
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in the transverse dimension. So the honeycomb pattern for nerves,
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whereas tendons have the fibrillar architecture, and vessels will have the
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anechoic lumen.
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So this is an example of a peripheral nerve. This one is pathologic.
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But just to show you, we've got the outer area of
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the
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nerve with the hypoechoic fascicles and the intervening
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perineurium, and here is the parallel tract appearance in
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the transverse dimension.
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So I've got a little bit of an analogy when looking at
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nerves. So if anybody remembers back to their childhood, there was a
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cereal called Cookie Crisp, and there's also Honeycomb cereal.
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I think they still make Honeycomb cereal.
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So abnormal nerves tend to have nerves where the
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fascicles are irregular in morphology through the cross-section of the
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nerve. Whereas a normal nerve has a more uniform
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honeycomb appearance to it.
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Bone is hyperechoic on ultrasound and demonstrates
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posterior shadowing.
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As I said, the one artifact that I like to talk about in musculoskeletal
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ultrasound is anisotropy.
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It is one of the more common artifacts that is encountered that can cause
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serious problems. And here we have an image of a
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supraspinatus tendon, and you can see away from
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90 degrees from the transducer, we're getting hypoechogenicity and
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loss of the fibrillar architecture of the supraspinatus tendon,
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indicative of the anisotropy in this rotator cuff in a
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normal person. I know this is a normal rotator cuff because it's
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my asymptomatic shoulder.
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So anisotropy is caused by highly organized structures due
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to reflection, so tendons, ligaments, and nerves.
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And depending on the angle of insonation, there is various degrees of reflection,
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and not all echoes return to the transducer.
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The maximum echoes return where the beam is perpendicular to the
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structure. This reflection results in loss of signal and
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can be interpreted as the structure being more hypoechoic than it
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really is. To correct for this, we use the heel-toe
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maneuver to get the angle of insonation as close to
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perpendicular as possible.
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So I have a nice
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short movie here demonstrating a movement of a
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transducer across a
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structure with anisotropy. And we can see as we move away from 90
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degrees, the structure becomes more hypoechoic.
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And this one is more of an example of a tendon.
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And here in cross-section, we have a nerve demonstrating the loss of
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the echogenicity pattern in the
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transverse dimension.
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And just for
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sake, I'll rerun that movie again one more time, showing us moving
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the transducer away from the 90 degrees, demonstrating the
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change in echo texture due to the
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anisotropy.
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So some clinical pearls about anisotropy.
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We can use the heel-toe maneuver, or I call it rocking, where you move
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the transducer back and forth to get it as close to perpendicular as possible.
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Recognize that anisotropy can be a pitfall
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in tendon tears. So you want to make sure you get it
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as
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close to the 90 degrees as possible and the maximum echogenicity.
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You can use this if you're doing nerve blocks because of the fascicular
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architecture
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versus the fibrillar architecture of tendons
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and ligaments so that due to that less abruptness, you
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can better identify the nerves for nerve blocks.
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I will say that you can use spatial
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compounding to partially mitigate anisotropy
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because that introduces sound beams from multiple different
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angles. However, tissue harmonics does not Correct for
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anisotropy. You can actually intentionally use anisotropy to
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differentiate between tendons and ligaments from nerves and muscles
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or blood vessels,
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and recognize that higher frequency transducers have more pronounced
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anisotropy due to greater specular
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reflection.
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Talking a little bit about transducer selection before you do a
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musculoskeletal ultrasound, what I typically say is the higher the
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frequency, the better. However, all transducer
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arrays,
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curvilinear or linear, do have their utility.
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So a very high frequency transducer produces a nice wide parallel
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beam for superficial structures and can resolve things down
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to about 0.1 to 0.2 millimeters.
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However, as we increase the depth, that limits our ultrasound
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penetration, so as we get to deeper structures, we do have trouble.
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A good balance is a standard linear transducer, so 5 to 12
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megahertz. Again, flat surface with some beam divergence.
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It is a balance between resolution and penetration.
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And often, these transducers, we can adjust the frequency range.
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So this is good for some intermediate depth structures.
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And remember, a lot of this also depends on patient body habitus, so thinner
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people, you might be able to do the same thing that you do with a standard
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linear.
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And then the curvilinear, with its curved footprint,
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fan shape, diverging beam, is great for the deeper field of view
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structures, can penetrate up to about 18
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centimeters, but it does have poor near-field
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resolution. I often use this in deeper
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applications, such as when I'm looking at the hip joint,
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particularly deep injections.
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So some transducer tips. So start with your high frequency and step it
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down as needed. Adjust your focal zone to get to
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your target depth. You can use harmonic imaging for deeper
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or difficult patients to see
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the deeper structures. We can use a standoff pad for
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shallow structures.
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You can also modify your gain versus your time gain
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compensation. So your time gain compensation applies differential
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application at different depths to account for that
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attenuation to balance things out.
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And don't be afraid to mix things up.
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I will often switch two or three times during an
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examination to use different transducers to get
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the optimal pictures based on what I may be assessing at the given
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moment.
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So standoff pad,
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you can use a preformed gel block. You can use a fluid-filled bag or a
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water bath. I use the quick and easy
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most often. I'll put a giant gel bolus on the skin surface, and
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I'll elevate that transducer away.
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So what that does is it moves the superficial structures away from the transducer
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face into the focal zone, reduces the ring-down artifact from
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the transducer face, improves the resolution of superficial structures,
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allows for lighter pressure, and enables also
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better Doppler assessment near the skin and of
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imaging of irregular surface contours.
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I won't go into depth regarding optimization of machine settings.
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That will depend on the manufacturer.
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There's often different levels, so general, superficial, deep.
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You can use harmonics. There's things like dynamic range.
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What I basically say is, whatever your
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ultrasound manufacturer is, get to know them, invite a rep out,
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have them work with you on getting your ultrasound
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machine set up to optimize what you may be doing.
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And you can even have labels. So we recently put labels into our
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machine so that our ultrasound techs have a checklist so that they make
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sure that they cover all the bases for a given exam, and they've taken the
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necessary representative images.
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The last thing I will say is I do a fair amount of
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in-person ultrasound,
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and I am able to talk to patients. Oh, no, a radiologist doing a physical
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exam and a focus history.
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But it can be very helpful, and I do incorporate that information into
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my report if I do some sort of physical exam
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or I have additional history that may not be available to me.
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And in this example that we see here, we've got lymphadenopathy in
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the right arm in the epitrochlear lymph node chain.
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I was a resident on call with this case, and
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I went in and
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I looked at her arm, and it looked like she had gotten into a fight with a tiger.
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So she owned five cats, and immediately I was thinking, "Well, I kind
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of know what this is already." So, we found the lymphadenopathy.
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We were able to give a pretty good differential
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diagnosis, and this did turn out to be a cat scratch
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disease, a bartonella species, at excisional
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biopsy.
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So now I'm going to transition, now that we've covered some basics of
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appearance and artifacts and some techniques on imaging,
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into the different cases, and I will go through those for the rest
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of our talk.
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What we have here is an example of a supraspinatus tendon
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in transverse and longitudinal dimension.
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We see that we've lost the fibrillar architecture that is
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typical of the tendon, and there is increased
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hypoechogenicity within the tendon.
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So we call this mild to moderate tendinosis.
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This is another example of a patient that has a partial tear.
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So we see again, there's loss of the fibrillar architecture with
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hypoechogenicity. But in addition to that, we have
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an anechoic fluid cleft along the insertional tendon,
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some partial retraction, some fluid within the gap.
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And this was a partial full-thickness
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supraspinatus tendon tear.
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All tendons are very similar, so supraspinatus,
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infraspinatus, and I'll state that the rotator cuff
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ultrasound, in addition to my Snowville screening ultrasound, is
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the only examination that is relatively comprehensive.
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The rest of the musculoskeletal realm in ultrasound is a
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very focused exam. So here we have an
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example. The deltoid muscle is draping over the greater tubercle
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of the humerus. We don't see any tendon where the
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infraspinatus tendon should be living, and this was a
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complete infraspinatus tendon tear.
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I will say that this patient also had a complete supraspinatus tendon
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tear on this ultrasound.
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This is an example of a complete subscapularis tendon
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tear along a common theme. We see our biceps tendon
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here at the bicipital groove. We see the lesser
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tubercle. There is an anechoic fluid gap.
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We see the deltoid muscle draping over the
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lesser tubercle indicative of this subscapularis tendon
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tear.
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A very important tool to use in musculoskeletal
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ultrasound is dynamic imaging, and
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that is one of the areas that I always do with
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rotator cuff. I usually use it for assessing the subscapularis, the
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AC joint, and the gliding of the rotator cuff tendons under the
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acromion. So here we have an example, and we can show it on the
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movie, the dynamic imaging, that the biceps tendon is
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subluxed out of the bicipital groove into
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this high-grade subscapularis tendon tear
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off of the lesser tubercle. So, I'll have a few more
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examples of dynamic imaging that I show in the
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cases. And again,
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you can use it with pretty much any patient that you're doing
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MSK ultrasound on.
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Here's a photograph of an arm demonstrating a lot of
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bruising in the arm and in the forearm.
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I will tell you, one of my areas of interest
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is incorporating photography into musculoskeletal imaging, not
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only ultrasound, but also into MRI and radiography,
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and CT imaging. I do a fair amount of remote imaging,
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and sometimes the technologists may not be able to convey all the information
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of what they're seeing or where something is exactly located.
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I will have them take photographs.
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There's a
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tablet-type device that actually comes with our ultrasound machine and
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is incorporated right into the pack.
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So they took this photograph of this person's arm, and what we
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see here is one of the common ordering indications for a musculoskeletal
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ultrasound, a very easy, quick examination to
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perform, much cheaper than an MRI.
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And here we've got the biceps brachii tendon.
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We see the redundant tendon here in the arm with the tendon stump.
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This is just a little more distal, showing the retracted tendon stump and the
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fluid gap going into the forearm, indicative of
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this complete retracted tear of the biceps brachii tendon.
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Something I actually include in a lot of my shoulder ultrasounds routinely when I'm
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scanning the biceps brachii, we will take a look at the
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pectoralis major. And I'll also say this is where that focus
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history can be helpful. I've had a fair number of people come in with
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orders for rotator cuff ultrasounds.
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I go in the room, and I ask them what's going on, and they're like, "Well, my
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shoulder doesn't hurt, but I got this big bruise on my chest.
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And when I was bench pressing," so the classic story for
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a pectoralis major injury is a bench press injury.
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Recognize there are three heads, the sternal, the abdominal, and the clavicular
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head.
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The sternal and the abdominal head kind of blend together.
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And recognize that the heads do cross one another with the sternal head
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inserting more superiorly, the clavicular head more inferiorly.
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And what we have here is we see in this trapezoidal image,
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we've got the distal tendon, the biceps tendon's deep to it here,
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and more proximally, we've got this large full-thickness
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defect in the distal myotendinous
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sternal head of the pectoralis major.
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He had a bruise on his chest wall, and we were able to easily diagnose this
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pectoralis major tear.
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I wanted to show another example of pathology as
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seen of the chest wall. So this was a young individual that came in
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with an abnormality on the chest wall.
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And I know we often diagnose this on radiography with
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increased lucency on one side. They wanted to confirm it.
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Ultrasound's a very cheap, easy way to confirm.
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And indeed, in this patient, we've got a pectoralis major on the
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left side, we have none on the right side, and we're able to confirm
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on ultrasound that this young individual had Poland syndrome.
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I like to also use this as an example for those of you that want to get
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into doing musculoskeletal ultrasound.
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Everything you see is pathology you've seen before.
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You're just seeing it in a new or different modality.
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So the differential diagnoses remain the same, and you've just got to
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apply it to using musculoskeletal ultrasound.
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Moving a little further into the upper extremity,
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we've got lateral epicondylitis here.
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So we've got hypoecogenicity with loss of the fibrillary architecture
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in the common extensor tendon. We've got a mild undersurface fluid cleft.
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We have a little bit of enthysophyte formation here at the
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lateral epicondyle. In this patient, they really didn't have a lot of increased
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color signal intensity, but you would want to add that on.
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They had pain right in this region, so indeed, some common extensor
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tendinosis,
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as seen with lateral epicondylitis.
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This is an example of an individual that came
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in with a palpable lump in their forearm.
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They're a bartender. They were in a fight in a bar,
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and they decided to break up that fight, and they got lacerated
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by a beer bottle, and they were concerned.
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Even though the patient didn't have symptomatology, obviously, the primary
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concern would be to assess the median nerve
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in the forearm. But when we put the ultrasound
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transducer down, at the level of the scar, we saw
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the distal lump, we had a gap, we had a proximal lump, and we
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were able to diagnose in this patient that they actually had a transection
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of the palmaris longus tendon. So I want to talk a
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little bit about this tendon. So it's a variable
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superficial forearm muscle and tendon.
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It's absent in about 10% to 20% of the population.
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It originates from the common flexor tendon, adjacent intermuscular
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septum, and the antebrachial fascia, passes superficially down the
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mid-arm between the flexor carpi radialis and ulnaris
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over the retinaculum, and inserts on the distal retinaculum and the palmar
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aponeurosis. May have a short slip to the thumb.
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It's a weak flexor and abductor of the thumb.
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It's an often harvested tendon for grafts.
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And probably one of the important things, a reverse belly of the
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palmaris longus tendon. So instead of the tendon,
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the muscle belly being proximal, the muscle belly is distal and in the
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carpal tunnel, and it can be
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a cause of refractory carpal tunnel syndrome
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after a retinacular release if it's not identified.
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Probably the most common
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story that I've heard with the examples I've seen is actually
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children who've presented with carpal tunnel-like symptomatology.
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So whenever I hear of a nine or ten-year-old, maybe they've been playing too many
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video games. But I'm always thinking
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about whether or not, and I found a few examples of
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a reverse belly palmaris longus in young individuals.
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So there is such thing as proximal and distal intersection syndrome.
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Yet another photograph. This was done remotely.
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This individual had focal pain over the distal
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dorsal forearm. We put the transducer down, and that was
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right in the location of proximal intersection syndrome.
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So
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that's where we get crossing of the first and
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second extensor compartments about four centimeters proximal to
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Lister tubercle. There was a little bit of fluid in the tendon sheath
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here. I will tell you, I've had some examples where there was no
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finding at all on the ultrasound, but it's right where the patient had the
27:25
symptomatology. And it is possible that there are no sonographic
27:29
findings despite the presence of this syndrome.
27:32
So this is a
27:34
companion case as seen on MRI, and we've
27:38
got quite a bit of tenosynovitis here between the first and second extensor
27:41
compartments. It is more proximal than the distal intersection syndrome
27:45
where we get crossing of the second and third compartments.
27:49
I actually saw a case of distal intersection syndrome yesterday on ultrasound.
27:54
So the proximal is about four centimeters proximal to Lister's tubercle due to
27:58
repetitive flexion extension. You see fluid in the tendon sheath, plus or
28:02
minus tenosynovitis. And as I said, there may not be any imaging
28:06
findings at all.
28:08
So this individual here came in with a
28:12
palpable pulsatile lump on the ulnar side of their
28:16
palm. And before I even started scanning, I had an idea of
28:20
what we were going to be seeing. We had a tortuous blood
28:24
vessel with significant blood flow with aliasing artifact.
28:27
We even had a mass-like area with pulsatile
28:31
to-and-fro flow within it. So here we have tortuosity of the
28:35
ulnar artery with aneurysm, pseudoaneurysm formation.
28:40
This individual had Hypother Hammer Syndrome.
28:43
So it's felt to be due to chronic repetitive blunt trauma to the ulnar artery at
28:46
the wrist,
28:48
typically seen at the hook of the hamate at Guyon's canal,
28:52
where it passes over the hook. So vibratory motion or impact injuries such
28:56
as the use of pneumatic hammers, baker's meat cutters,
28:59
metalworking.
29:01
And that vibratory damage causes intimal damage,
29:04
vasospasm, or leading to artery tortuosity, aneurysm
29:08
formation, thrombosis, and digital ischemia.
29:13
I've actually got a case of Thanner Hammer Syndrome where I found a
29:16
radial artery that was tortuous with a pseudoaneurysm in a baker
29:20
that tended to use the more radial side of the palms of her hands to knead
29:24
dough. Be mindful that digital ischemia can happen about
29:28
45% of cases and can lead to gangrene.
29:34
Moving a little further down the upper extremity is a
29:38
great case of ulnar collateral ligament tear.
29:42
So in this case, this was an individual that was walking their
29:45
dog, got pulled by the leash and had significant pain and
29:49
swelling. And what we see here is we
29:53
see the
29:56
ulnar collateral ligament is torn and retracted back beyond the
29:59
adductor aponeurosis.
30:03
There was significant swelling. I guess the hand surgeon wasn't confident
30:06
in my ultrasound alone, so they did an MRI
30:10
redemonstrating the
30:13
tear of the ulnar collateral ligament retraction via proximal to the adductor
30:17
aponeurosis. The surgeon is a good friend of mine.
30:19
I asked him
30:21
to take some intraoperative images, and here we see that
30:25
torn ulnar collateral ligament, torn and protracted
30:28
proximal to the adductor aponeurosis.
30:31
And this is a little further in the surgery where they had opened
30:35
up the adductor aponeurosis, and they're getting ready to put the ulnar
30:39
collateral ligament down onto the bone surface and then over sew the
30:43
adductor aponeurosis. So this is a great modality to
30:47
use.
30:49
You can use dynamic imaging. You can flex the interphalangeal joint
30:53
to show the movement of the adductor aponeurosis.
30:56
And then with very gentle
30:58
motion, you can do some
31:02
stress on this to show That the ulnar collateral ligament is
31:06
torn.
31:07
I usually don't let my technologists do any of the dynamic imaging
31:11
in these cases out of the presumed fear of changing a non-stener
31:15
into a stener lesion.
31:17
This friend of mine, hand surgeon, did say, "Rich, this is a bread and
31:21
butter surgery for me. You're helping me out.
31:24
If you accidentally convert something to a stener,
31:26
I'm going to operate, I'll manage
31:30
it." And, I do have trust from my hand surgeons
31:34
when I'm assessing these patients for them.
31:39
Yet another example, this was done remotely.
31:42
The technologist took a picture of this patient for me, and we see
31:45
PIP flexion, DIP hyperextension of a boutonniere
31:49
deformity. And, we're immediately thinking, and again, we have
31:53
here a central slip extensor tendon expansion
31:57
tear from the middle phalanx, beautifully shown on
32:00
ultrasound and corroborating the
32:05
physical exam and photographic findings.
32:09
I'm going to move into our lower extremity for
32:14
the next part of the talk and
32:18
ultrasound's great at looking for hamstrings tendinosis and tears.
32:22
This individual here had pain, no trauma.
32:26
They were concerned about hamstrings tendinosis.
32:28
And what we've got here is we've got thickening of the hamstrings
32:32
tendon origin. We've got some loss of the fibular
32:35
architecture. I commented that I didn't see any fluid,
32:39
in this case, in the overlying
32:43
ischiogluteal bursa.
32:46
The patient did have persistent symptoms, and they went
32:49
on the MRI, just corroborating the ultrasound findings of
32:53
some mild increased signal here at the origin of the hamstrings tendons,
32:57
indicative of some hamstrings tendinosis.
33:02
Can we assess hardware or hardware complications? Absolutely.
33:07
This patient had had a hip fracture, and they had a hip
33:11
screw placed. They were complaining of focal pain over the
33:14
lateral proximal thigh hip, and what we see
33:18
here is the hip screw is protruding out of the bone, causing
33:22
some mild mass effect on the overlying iliotibial tract.
33:26
There's a little bit of fluid deep to that.
33:28
So we suggested the possibility that there could be
33:32
some friction and impingement on the IT band or tract
33:36
by the underlying screw. They actually went in and modified
33:40
this, and the symptoms went away. As an aside, another thing that I've not
33:44
uncommonly seen,
33:46
particularly in the lateral thigh, is a myofascial
33:49
hernia, where the stab incision causes a defect in the
33:53
lateral fascia, and you get muscle herniating through the defect, which is
33:57
causing a focal burning pain. So I had that in the back of my mind when
34:01
I was thinking in this patient.
34:09
We saw this patient a little earlier.
34:12
I used as the normal muscle example, and the reason I used her
34:16
as a normal muscle example is, a very fit
34:20
individual, aerial silk dancer.
34:22
She was doing her routine and felt a focal tearing
34:26
pain in her approximate mid
34:30
right thigh. We put the ultrasound transducer down, and here
34:34
we see this mild to moderate anechoic cleft within her
34:38
gracilis muscle, and we were able to diagnose a Grade 2
34:42
gracilis muscle strain.
34:45
Very easy, quick examination, much cheaper than an
34:48
MRI.
34:53
As we talked about earlier, I wanted to show a good example of what fat
34:57
atrophy will look like in the muscle.
34:59
This is an individual that had a remote history
35:03
of a
35:05
quadriceps injury, and they were actually feeling a focal
35:09
soft lump. We put the ultrasound transducer down,
35:12
and in the region where they had had their prior injury, we see this
35:16
hyperechoic area, posterior shadowing.
35:19
You can imagine with the Heckmatt grading scale that this can make the
35:23
bone harder to see if we were deep to it.
35:25
And what this patient was feeling was just some focal fatty atrophy within their
35:29
rectus femoris muscle.
35:34
The quadriceps tendon is an easily assessed structure
35:38
on ultrasound, and you put the transducer down and take a look at it.
35:41
So here we have the normal fibular architecture of the quadriceps tendon.
35:45
And in this example in the right, we see that there's some tendons still
35:49
intact, but there was a defect with retraction, so this patient had
35:53
a high-grade partial quadriceps tendon tear from the patellar
35:57
insertion.
35:59
I don't routinely look at menisci, but that doesn't mean we can't
36:03
necessarily see findings.
36:05
What I typically say is, I've got a few providers, they just want to get an
36:09
idea, and in this case, this patient actually had a medial knee
36:13
lump, and when we put the transducer down, we saw extrusion of the
36:17
body of the medial meniscus with an overlying parameniscal
36:21
cyst, indicative of a medial meniscus tear.
36:24
This patient could not have an MRI.
36:25
The surgeon actually took this patient to surgery and confirmed
36:29
exactly what we saw, a medial meniscus tear with a parameniscal
36:33
cyst and extruded medial meniscus.
36:37
Yet another example of something with tendinosis and tearing.
36:41
So this is the patellar tendon at its insertion.
36:44
We've got loss of the fibular architecture, hypoechogenicity within the
36:47
tendon. There's really no hyperemia in this case, so we
36:51
diagnose this as mild to moderate patellar tendinosis.
36:57
Yet another example of something where dynamic imaging may be
37:00
helpful,
37:02
areas in the body where we can use it, we can use it for patellar clunk syndrome,
37:06
we can use it to look at the biceps tendon.
37:09
We can use it to look at the superior peroneal retinaculum, amongst
37:13
other things. This patient came in complaining of an issue
37:17
that when they flexed and extended their knee, they felt a popping sensation at
37:21
the medial knee. So here we see in this movie, it's moving a
37:24
little fast, but we get the pes anserinus tendons that are actually
37:28
popping over the periphery of the medial
37:32
condyle, and we were able to diagnose this patient with
37:36
snapping pes anserinus tendon syndrome.
37:39
So we can see in this movie, those tendons popping over top of the periphery of
37:42
that medial femoral condyle in that video.
37:48
So tennis leg. So this individual was a SWAT
37:51
officer that was in training. They repelled off of a wall and
37:55
felt a sudden pop in their calf with bruising, and what we
37:59
see here is we've got fluid between the medial gastrocnemius and soleus
38:03
muscles,
38:04
indicative of a moderate strain of the medial head of the
38:07
gastrocnemius, colloquially known as tennis leg.
38:11
I'll say that in the past
38:13
it was often thought that this was a plantaris tear, which could be seen
38:17
in these cases, but more likely than not, it's
38:20
not a plantaris tear, it's a medial head of the
38:24
gastrocnemius tear. Often, these patients are managed conservatively,
38:28
whether it's the medial gastrocnemius or the plantaris that is torn.
38:34
Achilles tendon.
38:36
This is a good place if you're training ultrasound technologists, for them to
38:40
start with the Achilles tendon, large superficial tendon,
38:44
easy pathology to assess. And what we see in this individual that
38:48
had posterior heel pain is we've got thickening,
38:51
hypoechogenicity in the Achilles tendon, loss of fibular architecture.
38:55
We've got some enthisified formation, and we've got a little bit of fluid here in
38:59
the retrocalcaneal bursa, which did demonstrate some increased color signal
39:03
intensity. So I diagnosed this patient with moderate distal to
39:07
insertional Achilles tendinosis with mild retrocalcaneal
39:11
bursitis, no Achilles tendon tear.
39:14
This is an example. This individual
39:18
was put on a fluoroquinolone, and about five,
39:22
six days later, they came in with a sudden
39:27
posterior heel pain, felt a pop, and what we have here is
39:31
a complete Achilles tendon tear. We've got a fluid
39:35
cleft here near the critical zone of the tendon,
39:39
redundancy to the tendon, loss of fibular architecture, and
39:43
this patient had a complete Achilles tendon tear secondary to
39:46
fluoroquinolones. One of the things that I will state is
39:50
that fluoroquinolones are not the only class of drugs that this can
39:54
be seen with. Multiple classes have been implicated,
39:57
particularly steroids, statins, and aromatase inhibitors.
40:04
At the ankle, so ankle tendons are
40:08
easily assessed on ultrasound, and what we see here is we've got
40:12
a split
40:13
tendon bundle, and we've got something in between.
40:16
So what we have, and we can demonstrate on this movie, right about here
40:20
is where that other image is at. We've got a chevron-shaped
40:24
appearance to the retromalleolar peroneus brevis tendon.
40:28
I didn't see any subluxation, but here we have a degree of split tearing of
40:32
the peroneus brevis tendon with subsidence of the peroneus longus tendon
40:36
into the brevis split tear.
40:41
I don't get a lot of ordering indications for ligaments.
40:44
I do know that other individuals at other institutions do a
40:48
fair amount of ankle ligament assessment.
40:51
I don't know. I think a lot of my providers, they diagnose it clinically.
40:55
They've never really ordered it. But that said, I've had a few cases where
40:59
they've sent them in, and here we've got some mild prominence with loss
41:03
of the fibular architecture, particular at the fibular
41:07
attachment of the anterior talofibular ligament, but otherwise, the ligament
41:11
is intact, so I diagnose them with a mild
41:15
ATFL sprain.
41:18
Plantar fasciitis. This is actually yet another entity very
41:21
easily diagnosed with ultrasound.
41:24
I think a fair number of podiatrists, sports medicine doctors, are actually
41:28
using point-of-care ultrasound to diagnose this.
41:31
So what we have here is we've lost the fibular architecture.
41:34
The plantar fascia is thickened. This individual actually had a very small
41:38
fluid cleft at the undersurface attachment.
41:41
So we were able to diagnose mild to moderate calcaneal attachment plantar
41:45
fasciitis with a mild tear.
41:48
This patient also had calcaneal enthisophyte
41:51
formation. You can use color signal intensity to
41:55
assess for hyperemia. This patient really didn't have any in this
41:58
case.
42:01
So moving on to some examples of nerve assessment.
42:05
I will say, here at University Hospitals, we do have a Neuromuscular
42:09
Ultrasound Institute. They tend to do much more
42:12
comprehensive nerve ultrasound.
42:15
I do a much more focused nerve ultrasound.
42:17
So wherever they suspect the pathology is where I'm going to
42:21
do the ultrasound
42:23
from some of my orthopedic providers.
42:25
So some examples are shown here. One of the more common
42:29
ones are going to be cubital tunnel syndrome and
42:34
carpal tunnel syndrome. So whenever I look at an
42:37
elbow and I see a muscle over top of the cubital
42:41
tunnel, you're going to think about that anconeus, supinatrochlearis, or
42:45
accessory muscle. This patient also had
42:49
some thickening and loss of the homogeneity to the
42:53
nerve fascicles. So this patient had some ulnar
42:56
neuropathy, likely secondary to the presence of that anconeus
43:00
supinatrochlearis muscle. So what is the anconeus supinatrochlearis?
43:04
It's a short variable muscle originating at the medial epicondyle,
43:08
passes over the cubital tunnel, inserts on the olecranon, present in about 14% to
43:11
15% of the population.
43:14
You get hypertrophy of the muscle compressing the nerve, and then you get
43:18
cubital tunnel syndrome. On ultrasound,
43:23
you see the muscle as a hypoechoic fascicular structure over the
43:27
cubital tunnel.
43:29
Cubital tunnel syndrome typically results in loss of sensation in the fourth
43:33
and fifth fingers, clawing this grip of the ulnar
43:37
forearm, and some muscle wasting in severe cases.
43:40
So there is some variability in nerve cross-sectional area measurements.
43:45
But typically, at the distal arm, it's about four to five millimeters squared, and
43:49
the cubital tunnel gets a little bigger, six to seven
43:53
at the inlet and within the tunnel, five to seven, and it becomes a little
43:57
smaller as we get into the proximal forearm.
44:00
So yet another thing is you could have absence of the fascia
44:03
over top of the cubital tunnel that's known as Osborne's fascia
44:07
or Osborne's ligament. We have thickening of the ulnar
44:11
nerve
44:13
here in the cubital tunnel up
44:17
to about 12 millimeters squared. In longitudinal plane, we see
44:21
that there's mass effect or a change in caliber to this
44:25
nerve at the level of the cubital tunnel.
44:27
And again, dynamic imaging is very helpful.
44:30
So we have the patient flex and extend their arm, and we see an elegant
44:34
example here of when they're moving
44:38
their elbow, we get dislocation of the ulnar nerve out of the cubital
44:42
tunnel with the dynamic imaging. So you can imagine if they're doing this all day,
44:46
every day, that that's going to cause a rubbing and ulnar neuropathy.
44:51
I do, from time to time, see patients that have had surgery after
44:56
cubital tunnel syndrome, and they can transpose the ulnar nerve to
45:00
over the medial epicondyle. And what we see in this case, this
45:04
patient actually had some dense scar tissue formation, and we see a
45:08
multilobulated mass effect on the nerve where it was
45:11
transposed and some mild thickening of the trans nerve more
45:15
proximally. They went in and did a neurolysis, and the symptomatology
45:18
improved.
45:21
Somewhat of an odd bird example of yet another nerve pathology,
45:25
so lateral antebrachial cutaneous nerve entrapment.
45:28
So that's typically seen in individuals that have had a biceps tear or a biceps
45:32
tear and repair, and you can get scar tissue formation from
45:36
the repair, or they can accidentally injure the nerve when they're doing the
45:40
biceps brachii repair. And the key thing is, is we look
45:43
for our cephalic vein. The nerve is right next to it here in
45:47
transverse. And what we have here is there's some change in
45:51
caliber of the nerve
45:53
here in the proximal forearm, the cross-sectional area, which
45:58
was about four millimeters squared, and then typically the nerve is very
46:01
imperceptible. So it is the continuation of the musculocutaneous
46:05
nerve, provides sensation of the lateral forearm, runs close to the cephalic vein.
46:09
As I said, it can be injured directly from the biceps rupture or the
46:12
repair. The history is very important here.
46:15
So loss of sensation in the lateral forearm, you want to think of this nerve
46:19
injury. In this case, the surgeon did query
46:23
lateral antebrachial cutaneous nerve pathology, and that's what we found
46:27
in this case.
46:30
Carpal tunnel syndrome, and I know I'm getting near the end of my talk here.
46:34
I could talk for hours and hours on musculoskeletal
46:36
ultrasound. I do want to give time for questions.
46:40
I will say that I'm not going to really cover any tumors here, but we'll continue
46:44
with things until we manage to finish the talk and give some time for
46:48
questions. So when it comes to carpal tunnel syndrome, there's really no
46:52
established diagnostic criteria.
46:54
You don't want to rely on anything alone.
46:56
Some say the cross-sectional area is best,
46:59
and expect to see a CSA proximal to flexor retinaculum,
47:04
and the nerve gets slightly bigger and then smaller within the carpal tunnel.
47:08
So is the normal nerve about nine to 11 millimeters
47:12
squared? Recognize if you've got a bifid nerve, you want to get a sum
47:16
of the bundle of the areas. I typically measure at the pronator
47:19
quadratus and the proximal and distal carpal tunnel
47:23
and distal to the flexor retinaculum.
47:26
Some research shows that
47:29
a difference in two millimeters has got a high sensitivity and
47:32
specificity
47:34
for the nerve at the level of the pronator quadratus versus the carpal
47:38
tunnel greater than four millimeters squared for a bifid
47:41
nerve. We also can look for retinacular bowing.
47:45
So if there's greater than two millimeters of retinacular bowing, as we see in this
47:49
case, outward bowing of the flexor retinaculum, that may
47:53
also help with that.
47:55
Distal flattening of the nerve, intraneural hypervascularity,
47:59
irregularity to the fascicles, and as seen on this transverse image
48:03
here, you can get a knot sign where you get
48:07
a relatively discrete change in caliber of the
48:10
nerve at the level of the retinaculum.
48:13
Again, I tend to put all of these measurements together
48:17
and
48:19
take all the information together to give to my surgeons and
48:23
where they're thinking of equivocal findings in carpal tunnel syndrome.
48:29
This individual here was actually complaining of
48:32
numbness and a lump in their thumb.
48:35
The lump itself
48:39
was painless, but they had the numbness more distally.
48:41
And I will tell you that this individual is a semi-professional bowler.
48:46
And what we have here is we've actually got the ulnar digital
48:50
nerve, and we've got perineural fibrosis.
48:52
This was proven pathologically at surgery.
48:56
So this patient had bowler's thumb. They were a bowler. They had bowler's thumb.
49:00
So perineural fibrosis of the ulnar digital nerve.
49:03
So the repetitive bowling grip causes the microtrauma, kind of like a Morton's
49:07
neuroma but in the hand. You get the scar tissue, lump, pain,
49:10
and numbness.
49:12
They went in, and they cleared this perineural tissue, and the patient's
49:15
symptoms did get better. And it's commonly seen in bowlers.
49:19
They keep the thumb in a ball for an extended period of time to create
49:22
excessive spin.
49:24
Some case examples of the lower extremity.
49:28
So this individual had numbness along the lateral
49:32
thigh. So immediately thinking meralgia paresthetica, lateral femoral
49:35
cutaneous nerve entrapment. So this is right at the pelvic
49:39
outlet where it passes underneath the inguinal ligament.
49:42
We've got some thickening and change in caliber of the lateral femoral
49:46
cutaneous nerve and able to make a diagnosis in
49:50
this case.
49:52
Peroneal neuropathy. So this individual had a below-the-knee
49:56
amputation. They had stump symptomatology as well as
49:59
symptomatology at their fibular head, and we see here on ultrasound,
50:03
they've actually got an osteophyte at the fibular head.
50:06
There was thickening of the owner nerve as it wrapped around the head of the
50:09
fibula. And this patient also
50:12
actually had a mass at
50:16
the stump of the peroneal nerve. So this is just the
50:20
movie showing that osteophyte and the thickening of the nerves that
50:24
wrapped around the fibular head. So cross-sectional dimensions at the knee,
50:28
10 to 25 millimeters with a two to four-millimeter diameter.
50:32
Cross-sectional area between 30 and 40 millimeter squares, moderately
50:36
abnormal, and then greater than 70 millimeters is
50:40
severely abnormal.
50:43
And another common example that I get from my podiatrist,
50:47
so a Morton neuroma. So it's not a true neuroma, but scar
50:51
tissue.
50:52
It's typically hypoechoic scar tissue forming around the
50:56
plantar interdigital nerve, which we see here.
51:00
You can use the Mulder maneuver, which
51:02
is where you squeeze the metatarsal heads together.
51:05
You may feel a lump.
51:08
You can hear an audible click, and often that will elicit pain in patients.
51:14
I think I'll finish up here with
51:17
just one last example of a nerve pathology,
51:21
somewhat of a protean thing. This patient had abdominal wall pain.
51:25
They were told that they were
51:28
imagining things. A bright surgeon was
51:31
thinking about the possibility of entrapment of the anterior cutaneous nerve.
51:36
And what we see here on this movie is we pass through the fascia here
51:40
into the rectus abdominis muscle.
51:43
There is some hypoechogenicity within and hyperechogenicity around
51:47
a branch of the anterior cutaneous nerve.
51:50
This patient actually went to plastic surgery.
51:52
They released this, and all of her symptoms went away.
51:55
So this is an example of a not often thought about entity,
51:59
anterior cutaneous nerve entrapment.
52:02
I think I'm going to stop right there.
52:05
I do diagnose fractures, I do procedures.
52:09
And we also do a screening
52:13
ultrasound and assess arthropathies with musculoskeletal
52:17
ultrasound. I'm more than happy to come back and give another talk
52:21
where we
52:22
discuss more non-tumor pathologies.
52:25
And then, like I said, I can probably give an entire two to three-hour talk on the
52:29
lumps and bumps and masses we see on ultrasound as well.
52:32
I thank everybody for their time, and at this point, I'm going
52:36
to look in the chat and answer any questions that anyone may have.
52:45
So let's see here. So in the Q&A.
52:49
So any cases of ultrasound during interventions like dialysis catheter
52:53
insertion,
52:56
and then
52:58
what does muscle atrophy indicate if we see it?
53:04
And then we've got
53:08
some discussions about calcific tendonitis.
53:10
So what I'll go ahead and
53:13
zoom forward to. So the first question, so procedures.
53:18
I believe that
53:21
if you can see it, you can stick a needle in it.
53:27
So I will stick a needle in pretty much
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anything that is asked of me within
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reason. So,
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I've aspirated and injected bursas.
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Here's an example of a spinal glenoid notch cyst where I stuck my needle
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in, aspirated that, injected some steroids,
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inject the tendon sheath of the long head of the biceps, hip injection,
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iliopsoas tendon injections.
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Again, I'll inject pretty much anything with the
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assistance of an orthopedic surgeon behind me.
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And one of the things I like to show is from time to time, I've had surgeons even
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ask me to put drains in joints.
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So this is an example where I put a patient who was not a
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surgical candidate, had a Pseudomonas
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aeruginosa septic shoulder arthritis and
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bursitis. And I went ahead and to help them out, I
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put a single-step 8 French
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locking pigtail drain in. So again, one stick, put the drain into the
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joint and help them out. Obviously, doing things like
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vascular lines is more of an interventional radiology subject,
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and really beyond the scope. But from the musculoskeletal perspective,
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again, I'll do pretty much anything.
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The next question was actually somebody was asking about calcific tendonitis,
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and separating that from enthesopathy.
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I think my big thing with calcific tendonitis
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is
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thinking about locations.
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Radiography often helps.
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And in this example here of calcific tendonitis, unfortunately,
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the calcium deposit was missed, but
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here we see a relatively smooth rotator cuff tendon with
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this echogenic focus, posterior shadowing.
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Went back, looked at the radiographs, diagnosed as calcific tendonitis.
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Again, classic locations,
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trying to separate from an enthesophyte.
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Sometimes that can be difficult. The radiographs help.
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Obviously, the enthesophyte, usually, you see it contiguous with the bone.
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The calcium deposit is usually within the tendon or ligament.
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And you can do ultrasound-guided barbotage with that
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as well. So that's an example of
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calcific tendonitis.
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Somebody's asking about muscle atrophy.
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What does it indicate if we see it?
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With the case of rectus femoris that I showed,
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that patient actually came in with a palpable abnormality.
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They had a known history of injury.
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Probably the most important area,
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is if anybody's looking for a muscular dystrophy,
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the more routine location where we see muscle atrophy is
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when we're assessing the rotator cuff.
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It's included in all rotator cuff ultrasounds.
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Obviously,
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in an individual with massive rotator cuff tear with muscle
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atrophy, those individuals, they may be
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considering doing a reverse shoulder arthroplasty rather
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than an anatomic arthroplasty
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due to the loss of integrity of the rotator cuff
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tendons. But that's where we usually
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talk about it.
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Let's go down with some more of the questions.
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So ulnar neuropathy at the cubital tunnel.
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Somebody would like me to go back over that.
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I'm more than happy to go back over that.
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And just a question about the radiologist doing
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examinations. I've got trained technologists.
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They've got their RMSK certifications.
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But at the same time, I do a fair amount of ultrasound
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myself. One of the things about training my
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residents and fellows is, in particular the
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fellows, is I do like
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my fellows to scan themselves so that they get comfortable in putting the
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transducer in their hand,
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and seeing the anatomy and pathology.
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Obviously, if a technologist is having difficulty, the person they
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come to is the radiologist, and you're going to need to be able to do that.
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So,
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again, I like to incorporate that training into
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particularly the fellow education and into the interested
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resident education so that they get comfortable in doing the scanning
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themselves. So to go back over
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some cubital tunnel pathology. So the common
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entities, so first of all, they've got numbness in their
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fourth and fifth fingers,
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grip weakness,
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maybe something
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that we see. And then, when looking for pathology at the
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cubital tunnel,
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probably the most common entities would be scar tissue formation
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around the ulnar nerve, the presence of an anconeus epitroclearis,
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absence of Osborne's fascia with ulnar nerve subluxation or
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dislocation.
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And then there's something known as snapping triceps syndrome.
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I will tell you, I don't have a good example of triceps syndrome from the
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wild. I've seen some examples in the textbook, but all of those
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entities can cause irritation of the ulnar nerve.
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So just to reiterate here, in this case, we've got a muscle over the cubital tunnel
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indicative of an anconeus epitroclearis.
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The ulnar nerve at the cubital tunnel or the distal forearm.
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So we measure the cross-sectional area in the distal arm should be between about
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four and five millimeters squared.
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At the cubital tunnel inlet, six to seven millimeters, five to
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seven millimeters within the tunnel, and then it becomes smaller again
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at the proximal forearm, measuring about
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four to five millimeters in cross-sectional area.
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In the cross-section, you may see asymmetry
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to the nerve
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fascicles, what I call that cookie crisp appearance earlier in
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my talk. And something else that you can
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integrate into your ultrasounds are going to be movies.
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So you see here, with the person flexing and
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extending their elbow, we see dislocation of
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the ulnar nerve out of the ulnar groove.
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This patient had enlargement of the nerve as well.
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So the repetitive motion issue here was causing
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cubital tunnel syndrome due to absence of Osborne's fascia and that
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medial nerve dislocation.
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Excellent. I appreciate everyone's time.
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