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What we can do when approaching lung cancer screening
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cts is both use our eyes visually,
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but we can also quantify some of the findings.
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We can visually assess emphysema, how severe is it
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and where is it distributed In the lungs.
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We can look at small airway while thickening
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and categorize it as mild, moderate, severe, depending on
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how small the airway lumen has become relative
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to the thickness of the wall.
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We can look for mucus plugging
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and even a few scattered small mucus plugs is now known
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to be associated with increased patient morbidity
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and poor outcomes and bronchiectasis With emphysema,
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we can not only apply this visual rating of non mild,
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moderate, severe, but there are many tools now
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that will quantify emphysema
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and make that easy to put in your radiology reports as well
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as to follow the severity over time.
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And then there's interstitial lung abnormalities
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and fibrotic disease.
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ILA or interstitial lung abnormalities are incidentally
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detected and represent early evidence of pulmonary fibrosis.
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When we see these, whether it's on a lung cancer screening,
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CT or any chest ct, we should recommend referral
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to pulmonary medicine with pulmonary function testing,
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as well as testing for connective tissue disease,
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which most pulmonary medicine physicians will undertake
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because of the increased association with ILAs.
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When patients are asymptomatic
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and have normal functions with no evidence of CTD
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patients should be followed up with pulmonary medicine
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and usually do so annually with pulmonary function tests
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or if they develop symptoms
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because abnormality in pulmonary function tests developing
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or new symptoms is indicative
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of pulmonary fibrosis progression
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for which antifibrotic therapies may then become indicated.
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We know that 10 to 20% of patients with this mild evidence
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of interstitial lung disease found on
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chest cts incidentally, including our lung cancer screening,
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cts, will progress over the next five to 10 years.
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Here's an example of a 61-year-old baseline CT has mild
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peripheral subpleural reticulation
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and is asymptomatic at this time with normal pft,
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but nine months later becomes symptomatic.
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CT is repeated and we can see
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that the disease extent has already progressed in the short
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term at this time.
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Through both of these time points.
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Serologic tests remain negative with no evidence
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of connective tissue disease.
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This serial CT examination is the same patient
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taken from the position paper from the Fleischer Society on
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interstitial lung abnormalities,
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which is a really good reference for this topic
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and reviews the literature quite well.
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This study is out of the COPD gene study,
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which is a longitudinal study of COPD,
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looking at ways to identify it earlier, understand it,
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and to treat it so that we can prevent progression.
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This patient in A-C-O-P-D study, which is A-C-O-P-D study,
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not a fibrotic lung disease study, starts out
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with a baseline CT with just some mild subtle reticulation
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that might even go referred to as a little bit
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of dependent ectasis
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because there's not much else that was seen
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four years later on their COPD gene research study.
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We now see areas of dilated bronchi in the lung periphery
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and more reticulation.
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By 2010, we now see convincing evidence,
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much more extensive amount of ground glass reticulation,
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traction bronchiectasis,
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and then through 2015,
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12 years since the original detection,
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we have considerable progression yet again
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and starting to develop small honeycomb cysts.
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So ILAs at their earliest when we identify them.
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Patients with these findings should be referred
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for pulmonary medicine function testing
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and pulmonary consultation
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to both understand the disease at current state
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and decide whether antifibrotic therapies are important
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today or should be used in the future if disease progresses
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or symptoms are identified.
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And lastly, I wanna talk briefly about quantitative analysis
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of cts using tools
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that can help us extract information from cts.
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They can be applied both to interstitial lung disease,
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looking for areas of increased lung density, ground glass,
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and reticulation and subcategorize, those findings as well
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as applied to emphysema to quantify the severity
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of emphysema or to quantify small airway disease
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by measuring the amount of air trapping.
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This is an example of looking at interstitial lung disease
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using one of these quantitative tools
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where we can look at the normal lung shown in green,
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whether it's superimposed on a coronal image,
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whether it's using these sort of radar diagrams.
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So you can see each lobe
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and the extent of each different feature.
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In this patient. We have ground glass demarcated.
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In this yellow color, we have reticular in the orange color
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and we had no honeycombing.
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So we can measure how much disease is present versus
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how much normal lung,
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and we can measure the type of underlying abnormality.
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Ground glass, generally more reversible.
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Honeycombing and reticulation, generally irreversible.
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If we're using antifibrotic medications, we can look
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to see if they're having impact on the rate
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of progression is slowing or the disease is held in check.
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And we can break these findings down into details
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to each lung, each lobe, and so on.
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Most of these tools were originally developed
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through radiologist ground truthing
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of individual little vox.
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And I participated in a number of these studies
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where we took small pieces of the lung, as you can see here,
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little voxel groupings of the lung
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and decided whether they were ground glass, reticular,
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honeycombing, normal lung,
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and so on, so the tools could be developed to identify them.
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And so most of the tools out there today have used some form
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of radiologist ground truthing
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as their underpinning in the way they quantify lung disease.