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Let's take a look at this lung cancer screening exam.
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This is again my typical layout.
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So I have at my fingertips my axial mips,
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which help us increase the detection for small nodules.
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Have my lung windows, my bone, soft tissue windows,
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and then I have my coronal and sagittals all my fingertips
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and I can easily mag in
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and out of any one of these as I'm finding abnormalities.
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I can also use information to look at lung volume
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and lung density analysis,
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and I can confirm my radiation dose here is in the low
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radiation dose range for an advertised patient.
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So important things for me
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to confirm when I'm looking at a case.
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So as we're looking at this ct, starting at the lung apices,
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we're already starting to see abnormality in the lungs.
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We look at that a little bit closer.
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We can see there's some diffuse ground glass
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in the lung parenchyma.
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It's in the upper lobes
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and we can see some paraseptal emphysema here along the
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fissure a little bit along the mediastinal pleural surfaces
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going all the way up to the apex.
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This paraseptal emphysema
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or emphysema along the interlobular SEPTA
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with this ground glass.
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As we keep scrolling, we have a discrete thin walled cyst.
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So this case is showing us a bevy of lung abnormalities,
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a discrete thin walled incidental cyst, not a lesion
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that's cystic and needs to be classified using lung rads.
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And then we come into a part solid nodule here.
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It's an atypical juxta pleural nodule.
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We like to try and call intra pulmonary lymph nodes,
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never possible to minimize the necessary workup.
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The criteria of which is a solid nodule can't be parked
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solid or ground glass that is along a pleural surface
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with a broad base, whether it's the fial pleura,
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the mediastinal pleura, the causal pleura along the ribs
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or the diaphragmatic pleural surface.
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And it has an angular shape or triangular morphology.
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And if it's centered on a fissure, it might be by convex.
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So this is technically a juxta pleural nodule.
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The problem is it's not solid.
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It has ground glass components and it has solid components.
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That is not a criteria
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for a juxta pleural benign int pulmonary lymph node.
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We're also gonna measure it in both of its diameters to see
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what it measures out.
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Jux pleural nodules have
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to be under 10 millimeters in diameter
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to meet that criteria.
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And with this one, if we average the mean
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and max diameter that we're seeing here,
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we're getting under 10 millimeters, mean diameter.
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So it meets the size criteria for juxta pleural nodule.
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It meets the pleural interface criteria,
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but it's part solid
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that is not a benign juxta pleural inter
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pulmonary lymph node.
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So again, we've got a part solid nodule masquerading
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as a juxta pleural inter pulmonary lymph node.
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So very important to apply all those criteria.
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And as we keep scrolling throughout the lungs,
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we see this irregular area here of some dilated bronchi.
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There's bronchiectasis branching tubular structure
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With some small areas of ATE impaction.
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Patients who have a history of cigarette smoking can
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certainly have different types
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of lung disease including small airway disease
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and bronchiectasis.
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This can also be the results
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of a prior pneumonia pulmonary infection.
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And we see that ground gloss opacity we saw in the upper
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lobe starting to peter out as we get to the lower lobes.
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So we got a part solid nodule, which is a lung rads, three
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by size criteria with a mean diameter
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of about 8.5 millimeters.
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And I measured the solid component at just
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under six millimeters.
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We have lung disease
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and let's take a look a little bit closer at that.
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The distribution of abnormalities is ground glass,
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upper lobe predominant, which is classic
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for respir respiratory bronchiolitis in an individual who is
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actively smoking cigarettes as this individual was.
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And we have paraseptal emphysema,
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which we saw on the pleural surfaces, bronchiectasis
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branching findings and we saw that benign cyst as well.
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So a lot of findings.
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The next step is we're going
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to recommend appropriate follow-up for lung RADS three,
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which is gonna be a follow-up CT in six months.
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And depending on that, additional
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recommendations will be made.
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So here's a layout of serial CT exam on this patient,
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beginning with a screening CT we just looked at on the
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right, followed by a CT in October, 2021.
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So, uh, we've moved on by six months between these exams,
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the lung RADS three followup has not changed.
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I'll try and match up those images.
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Look across the nodule very carefully.
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We then have a next CT in August of 2022.
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This came a little bit earlier than going back
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to annual screening at 12 months.
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Sometimes patients used to come a little bit earlier
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or a little bit later for their screening exams
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and exactly on the 12 month calendar.
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And the nodule is again unchanged.
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And then on the far left, we have March 20, 24.
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So we're almost three years from the initial CT
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that we looked at on right, and the lesion is unchanged.
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This is characteristic of a benign lesion,
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benign biologic behavior.
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We will of course continue to recommend annual screening
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for CT for this patient and watch it closely,
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but we can't just focus on the nodule that we know about
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and watch that over time.
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We have to look for other nodules too
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and not just be drawn to that.
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And if we look just very closely
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in a short distance from the juxta pleural part,
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solid nodule, this patient has now developed a
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new solid nodule.
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So don't get drawn into only looking at the nodules
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that were there in the past, particularly the ones driving
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your lung RADS three and four, A follow-up recommendations,
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but still be very attentive to new nodules like this,
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A new nodule that didn't exist
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before of this size as a higher likelihood of malignancy.
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And we're gonna now make sure we file this patient a little
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bit more closely because we found that new nodule,
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so they're now a new lung Rads three
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because of the new finding.
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And the recommendation would not be
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to come back in six months.