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Unknown Knee Case: 25yr Old involved in MVA

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Let s take on a case.

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This is a 25-year-old man

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who's been in a motor vehicle accident,

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and he reports lateral pain.

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Rule out ACL was the history.

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You know,

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typical ACL presents often with a

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pivot shift mechanism of injury.

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And that is where the tibia internally rotates.

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The femur externally rotates.

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There's often a valgus impact so that there's

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an impact from the outside to the inside.

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So the medial side opens, but not always.

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And there's frequently a component of twist,

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and that creates a classic pattern of bone

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injuries, which I am not going to show you here.

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So the reason for me illustrating this is because

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of the bone pattern in this case,

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it's completely atypical. It's counterintuitive.

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As we scroll through the water weighted image,

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the proton density fat suppression, spur or spare,

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you should be totally thunderstruck by the volume

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of edema that is in virtually every single bone.

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The tibia, the fibula with a step off fracture,

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the antralateral femur and the patella.

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So this isn't the usual average bear.

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This isn't the classic pivot shift mechanism

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of injury, although the ACL, as we'll see,

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is very abnormal.

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So what I try and do in all my orthopedic

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cases is figure out what happened.

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If it's a sports injury case, obviously,

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if it's a tumor, I'm not going to do that.

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And then I try and match the imaging findings to

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what the clinician needs to know, wants to know,

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or if I'm surprising him or her.

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What they have to know.

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That's going in the conclusion.

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So, at first glance, there's been a major impact.

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Okay. MVA. Not unexpected.

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So where was the impact?

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Well, we have a fibular fracture.

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More of the edema is lateral than medial,

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although, admittedly,

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there's a fracture right here

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in the posteromedial corner.

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But just judging by the soft tissues,

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the impact came from the anterolateral side.

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My guess is he impacted something in the motor

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vehicle that smashed the anterolateral aspect

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of the knee and drove everything backwards,

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probably the tibia more than the other structures,

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and that's what's led to the ACL injury.

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I also know that he has not had a major valgus

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force because the MCl layer number two,

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also known as the tibial collateral ligament,

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normal. There's no swelling here.

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So where was the force transferred?

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Well, if it's not there, I have to wonder,

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in my mind, maybe it's posteromedial,

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because he had an anterior lateral force

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that would be directed posteromedial.

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And we have evidence to back it up.

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Right, we've got a fracture back here.

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Right there.

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So now the next thing that should

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go through your head.

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Yes, we're going to go back to the ACL.

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No question.

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What about the posteromedial corner?

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So at first glance,

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the posteromedial corner right there is a little

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bit swollen. There's the meniscus.

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It looks normal at first glance.

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And now let's turn to the sagittal projection

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and let's go to the posteromedial corner.

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There's our fracture.

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There it is on the T1 slightly depressed.

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It's a macro fracture.

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So what other type of corner

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abnormalities do we have?

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We have injured the meniscocapsular junction.

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That's one component of the corner.

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Did we tear away the meniscus?

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In other words,

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is the meniscus flipped or separated?

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No, but there's bleeding in there.

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The attachments are injured.

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Did we tear the actual meniscus?

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No, we didn't. That's another component, though,

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of the posteromedial corner.

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What about the semimembranosus?

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Did we tear it off?

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No. Did we injure it?

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Yes. Look how swollen it is.

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And you all know from watching MRI online,

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there are five expansions of the semimembranosus.

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This is not the time to go through those five

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expansions, but let's stay with the corner.

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What's another aspect of the corner?

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The popliteal oblique ligament. The pol,

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that should be a thin,

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crisp line right here merging with a thicker line.

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And if I blow this up really big,

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that is not a thin, crisp,

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straight line right there,

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which should merge with this band right here,

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which is the capsule. So not unexpectedly,

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the popliteal oblique ligament has taken a hit,

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because right next to it is the capsule,

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and they all kind of blend together.

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We're not done yet. We've got the pol,

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the postural oblique ligament of the knee.

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It has a corner attachment to the

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posturo superior ligament.

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That linear structure should go to that apex.

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It's off.

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Wow, that's pretty subtle.

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That's why we have MRI online.

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Now let's go to the coronal projection

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as we did before,

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and all we really saw was a little

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bit of swelling here.

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I like to follow the tibial collateral ligament

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back and see if that turns into the posterior

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oblique ligament, which it does.

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And in the coronal projection,

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it actually looks pretty good.

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So the coronal projection is a little bit of a

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fooler. The pol is a rather complex structure.

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Another way to see the pol is in the sagittal.

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So let's go to the sagittal with all our

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fractures. Here's a fibular fracture,

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here's a tibial fracture, here's ephemeral injury.

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And as we're scrolling back and forth,

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you're probably noticing that the

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tibia is lurched forward.

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There's passive anterior tibial translation,

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which means the acl is deficient.

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It's not going to be there in a young person.

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It's transected, and it is right there.

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And I'm going to show it to you very clearly on

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the T2 weighted image and explain

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how you use the T2 in a moment.

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But let's stick with the pol for a minute.

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Let's go to the medial side.

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So, straight up and down.

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We already said the tibial collateral ligament,

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normal. There it is, straight up and down.

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I should make it bigger on your behalf.

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Straight up and down, intact.

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But right behind it,

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you'll remember from MRI online making kind of a

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horizontal v. We're going to see it right here.

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Now, it's going to be in this location.

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As I scroll,

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it's going to be shaped like,

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this

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is one of the critical components of the pol.

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There's a capsuler component up high.

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We don't worry too much about that.

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It's also called a superior arm.

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And then there's a component in the back

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here that comes off the same location.

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That's called the central arm.

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So this is the distal superficial arm.

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Central arm, capsuler arm. Now,

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let's scroll and see what we got right there.

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There it is. Tibial collateral pol.

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Swollen.

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Definitely swollen. Let's go a little deeper.

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Now we're out of it.

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It's a very thin structure,

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so we only see it on one sagittal projection.

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At the very least,

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the central and superficial arm of

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the pol are sprained or swollen.

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Now let's get to something a little easier.

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Let's go to the T2 where on your fourth

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pint of vodka, bourbon, scotch,

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or the drink of your choice.

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This is a no brainer.

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Now, what does the T2 really do for you?

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Well,

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sometimes it's a helper and sometimes

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it hurts you. When does it help you?

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When you have a morass of blood and

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fluid burying the structures,

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especially on the PD spur.

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Then you go to the T2 and all those signals die

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down and the dark signal of the ligaments

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stand out and you can see the two ends.

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So in the acute setting, the T2 is queen or king,

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there's a gap.

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You could drive your volkswagen through that gap.

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There's the proximal end, there's the distal end.

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It's a no doubter.

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Let's look at its appearance on the PD.

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Yeah, it's a no doubter here, too.

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But you might say, oh,

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maybe that's a fiber intact.

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No, it's not.

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It's just a piece of a fiber just waving

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in the breeze. There's a huge gap here.

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This is a full thickness,

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proximal to mid portion acl rupture.

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And the T2 does it justice.

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When does the T2 hurt you?

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When the acl tears are chronic.

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Because what's the signal of a ligament?

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And we got a ligament.

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It's black.

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What's the signal of hemocytrine?

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Oh,

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we'll make a slightly different yellow color

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like that. What's the signal of hemocytrin?

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Black. What's the signal of blood?

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Black. What's the signal of fibrous tissue?

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Black.

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So if you have fibrous healing or a fibrous union,

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even if it's not stable,

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of the ACl to the notch of the knee or to the PCl,

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it's going to look like one contiguous structure

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and you're going to get old.

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That happens a lot, especially in kids.

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This is a traumatic ACl rupture with a

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posteromedial corner injury and innumerable bone

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injuries, including some fractures. Let's move on.

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Faculty

Stephen J Pomeranz, MD

Chief Medical Officer, ProScan Imaging. Founder, MRI Online

ProScan Imaging

Tags

Trauma

Musculoskeletal (MSK)

MRI

Knee