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So as I said previously, we start with the separation
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of those tumors that are IDH mutant from those
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that are IDH wild type
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with the IDH wild type defining the glioblastoma.
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So let's talk now about IDH mutant tumors.
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So the ID IDH mutant tumors can be separated
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histopathologically and
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by molecular genetics into different grades.
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The molecular genetic marker that defines grade four
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for an I DH mutant glioma is this
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CDKN two A slash B deletion.
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So CDKN two A B deletion defines
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WHO grade four molecular basis
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for calling it a grade four tumor.
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Again, this is going to be an astrocytoma based on
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the presence of the A T RX mutation.
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Um, but it will be separated based on that
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molecular deletion if the tumor also shows necrosis
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and microvascular proliferation.
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As I mentioned, the histological hallmarks
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of a high grade tumor.
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It also will define a tumor as grade four.
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We mentioned that after the separation into
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IDH mutant, we then have
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to separate things into astrocytomas versus ogden gliomas.
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And the one P 19 Q code deletion is
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what defines the algo DRO glioma.
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There's another molecular marker which is very important,
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which does not have to do with the histopathology
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and that is the MGMT promoter methylation.
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Depending upon that state, the tumor will be more
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or less sensitive to both temodar therapy, part of
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that chemotherapy for gliomas as well as more sensitive
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to radiation treatment.
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However, the MGMT promoter status also
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may lead to a greater
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or lesser degree of the issue of pseudo-progression.
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That is where the imaging looks worse even though the
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patient is getting better.
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So we'll talk about that shortly.
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So we now take WHO 2016 classification
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and we convert it to WHO 2021 classification.
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And you notice that we have astrocytomas,
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which are IDH mutant
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and they may be grade two, grade three, grade four.
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Remember that the grade ones are those sort
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of benign ones such as pilocytic astrocytoma.
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And then we have the glioblastoma defined by IDH wild type.
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And then we have the ones that are defined
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by the one P 19 Q code deletion,
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which are our allendra gliomas.
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And those two are separated into grade
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Two and grade three on the basis of histology.
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Why is this all important?
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Well, as you know,
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there's a much different prognosis when one has a
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glioblastoma versus a non glioblastoma astrocytoma
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IDH mutant tumor versus those
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that have the oligodendroglioma.
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So if you had
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to pick a glioma in the brain, what would you pick?
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Oligodendroglioma you see in the purple
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that it has the best long-term survival compared
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to astrocytoma
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and the one that we know which is
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the worst prognosis is the glioblastoma.
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So although we have made progress with glioblastoma,
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as you can see this is a paper from 2023
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and we're still at a point where not very many people
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make it out that uh, to a far distance with glioblastoma.
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What do these look like?
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Well, these can look in a variety of different,
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uh, appearances.
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They may or may not show enhancement.
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This is a grade two IDH mutant tumor.
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It does not show enhancement.
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However, some of the grade two
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and grade three tumors will show contrast enhancement.
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In general, no restricted diffusion
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and you can see that here and no increased perfusion.
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So we generally say that the grade of the tumor does vary
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with the values of the A DC maps as well as the degree
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of hyperperfusion.
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This is another uh, example.
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In this example we have a CT flare,
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post gadolinium enhanced scan, diffusion weight scan,
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and our perfusion weight scan.
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This is an A DC map
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and as you can see here,
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a well-defined lesion which is not showing
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contrast enhancement and the profusion
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map shows, if anything
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lower profusion within the tumor.
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So how do you look at these uh, maps?
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You know that the white matter
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has less perfusion than the gray matter.
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So on this map, yellow is less perfused than green
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and therefore this tumor is actually showing, um,
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diminished perfusion.
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So you can either look at what's happening in the ventricle
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to see absence of enhancement and absence of profusion,
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or you can look at the difference between gray matter
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and white matter in order
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to get your gray scale on these color maps of uh, perfusion.
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And you notice also that there aren't areas of dramatic
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decrease in the A DC on the vast majority of this tumor.
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This is a patient who has an IDH mutant grade three.
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So as we increase in the grade,
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we may see increasing enhancement.
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We may see increasing necrosis, potentially we may see
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also an increase in the perfusion.
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So here we have a patient,
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it's infiltrating ill-defined heterogeneous signal intensity
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and it has some areas
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that show contrast enhancement on the post
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GAD T one weighted scan.
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This is our A DC map
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and we see some areas in particularly the anterior border
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of this which have dark signal intensity, which is
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darker than gray matter and white matter and
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therefore reduction in a DC, which would lead us
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to the conclusion that this may have a higher grade.
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And if we look at our perfusion map, remember
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that the gray matter, which is the blue,
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is more perfused than white matter, which is the
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aqua green here.
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So this lesion, which is darkish blue,
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has increased perfusion.
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It has perfusion as much as,
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or even more than the gray matter.
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And again, this is all visual assessment.
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Sumi Cha will talk to you
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and if you look up her papers, she has some values
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that they place for CBV and CBF.
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The problem is that there is some variation between them,
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depending upon whether you're using a 1.5 Tesla scanner
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or a three Tesla scanner
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and what parameters you're using
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for your profusion sequence.
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But in this example, I as a visual assessment, this is
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a hyper perfused tumor and
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therefore we would suggest it's more likely
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to be a higher grade astrocytoma.
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This is a grade four tumor.
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Now grade four tumors include glioblastomas,
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but the glioblastomas are not IDH mutant.
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So IDH wildtype grade four tumor glioblastoma,
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IDH mutant grade four tumor is a high grade astrocytoma,
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in this case astrocytoma IDH mutant grade four.
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Now I mentioned molecularly if they have the CD, K
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and two A two B two a B mutation, that's going
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to define grade four
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or if the histopathologically,
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you have microvascular proliferation
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and necrosis on histopathology that will define grade four.
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These are both grade four tumors
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and yet they look pretty well defined once again.
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But this one had that genetic marker
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and this one histopathologically had necrosis.
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But in general, once again, the higher the grade,
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the lower the A DC values
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and the greater the profusion of the tumor.