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So let's go three up here, three up.

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And let's start out with our, our three,

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uh, coronal projections.

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There's quite a few images in this case.

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On your left, we've got the T one spin echo,

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and you can see there's some proac

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or blood tinged fluid in the joint.

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We've got a fat suppressed, uh, water weighted image, uh,

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likely a proton density, fat suppressed image.

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And on your far right, a non-fat suppressed T two.

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And right away you can see that close

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to the 12 o'clock position within a centimeter

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or two, within 10

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or 20 degrees, which is typically

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where you'll find them from the apex.

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Slightly more lateral is this depressed hill

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sax abnormality.

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Now, as we scroll back and forth, I look at the T one

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and the, and the water weighted image,

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because sometimes it's hard to tell

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where the cortex stops and or begins.

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You can see this depression right here,

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and what I, what I like to do is put up my axial

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and I'll measure my axial.

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And this one, let's measure the length of the, the hill sax

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or the width of the hill sax and the axial projection.

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And we're getting a measurement of about 1.3 centimeters

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or 13 millimeters.

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Now let's look at the, let's look at the coronal projection,

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and I'm gonna obliquely it.

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I'm gonna go into my oblique tool,

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and you'll have to forgive me.

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This one's slightly different than the one I'm used

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to using, and I'm gonna try

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and get as close to, let's see if I can get it to work.

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Here we go. I'm gonna try

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and get as close to tangent to the posterior aspect

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of the humerus as follows.

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So let's do that. I'm gonna get right back on my hill here

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in the back, and that gives me a very good idea

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of the width of the hill sax.

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And you, you see how it parallels the track, uh,

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of the glenoid track, uh,

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to use a redundant term track and track.

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And if we measure it at its widest portion,

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it's gonna measure about 13 to 15 millimeters, somewhere in

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that, in that vicinity.

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So that's a quick way, uh,

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to figure out the width of the hill sacs.

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That's a little more accurate than simply measuring the

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axial, which often underestimates the width

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of the glenoid track.

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Now let's do something different.

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Let me see if I can get out of this.

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I think I've gotta go out

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and in again, Paul, I'm kind of stuck here.

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Thank you. I don't know that it'll let me do that.

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Um, let's go to the sagittal projection.

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Is there any way to one up them?

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Probably not, but here's a quick way.

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As Don promised you, I would give you a quick way to

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Figure out the, the glenoid track.

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And I'm gonna use my pen here rather

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than my measuring stick.

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And I'm going to measure the, an posterior dimension,

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pardon the little waviness of my hand of

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where I think the pair, the edge of the pair should be.

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So there, there's my circle right there.

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Now, I could do a best fit circle

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and use the circular tool up top,

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but I usually use my eye to do that,

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and it's pretty accurate to make that curve.

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And then I get a, a, a length here,

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and then I multiply that by 0.83,

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and I do that very quickly.

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So I just put a line on there.

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Let's say it measures 2.5, which it, it kind of did.

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I multiply it by 0.83, and that gives me 2.2.

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But then I have to subtract, I have

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to subtract this little area here

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where I've lost some of my glenoid.

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And I could take another color

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and measure that just for fun using another color.

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And I measure that, and that's gonna be about

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four millimeters.

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So now I take my 2.2 measurement,

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which I got from measuring the glenoid cup,

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multiplying by 0.83.

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I got 2.2, I subtract four millimeters. And what do I get?

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I get 1.8 or 18 millimeters.

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So the bottom line is my glenoid track width

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of 18 millimeters is wider than my

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hill sacks width, which turned out to be about 13

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to 15 millimeters.

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So we'd say that this is more likely going to be a unipolar

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on track abnormality.

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Now let's see if we can look at the, the abnormality itself.

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Let's pull down an axial.

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And you know, when you lose the entire labrum,

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you really get this feeling like you've lost bone.

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Now, you can lose bone from compression from repetitive

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impaction as don described,

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but when you have that labrum missing, it,

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it almost looks like

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but isn't real, that you've lost

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glenoid bone, but you haven't.

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It's just that you've lost the glenoid triangle.

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And there it is floating in the breeze, uh,

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markedly displaced, uh, from the glenoid.

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And the glenoid is a little bit rounder

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and attenuated anteriorly.

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Uh, this was not at least known to me a recurrent dislocate

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and is usually the case in performance.

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Athletes like this individual, there's a little bit

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of irregularity in a small tear in the posterior

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aspect of the labrum.

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But I wanted to use this case to give you a method

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for looking at the track.

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Now, here's another quick method that I use routinely.

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Let's go back to the sagittal.

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And most of you know, es especially my visiting scholars

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and former fellows, that I don't like

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to measure things because

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My former mentor, Dr. Benjamin Filson told me that people

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that that measure things are not sexually active.

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So I try not to measure too frequently.

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Uh, and, and here's what I do.

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I, I look at the glenoid and I bisect it.

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So I have it on Foss in the sagittal projection,

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and I know about where the glenoid would've been.

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And then I, I put a little.in the middle

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and I do this with my I.

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And then I have a radius in the back radius in the back,

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a radius in the front right here.

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And if I have half of that radius involved, so

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half of that radius would be about 25% of the width

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of the Glenwood cup, then I know that I potentially

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and likely have a problem.

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What's the number that I use to tip me off

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that there could be an engaging lesion about 12 to 14%,

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as low as 12% I've seen with an engaging lesion.

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So 25 is the number in the literature,

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but that's not a hard fixed number

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because there are a lot of other factors at play.

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The size of the hill sax, the orientation of the hill sacks

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with the arm in abduction.

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If the hill sacs is parallel to the inferior aspect

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of the glenoid, you're much more likely

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to have an engaging scenario.

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So let's move on to the next case.

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Faculty

Stephen J Pomeranz, MD

Chief Medical Officer, ProScan Imaging. Founder, MRI Online

ProScan Imaging

Donald Resnick, MD

Professor Emeritus, Department of Radiology

University of California, San Diego

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Shoulder

Musculoskeletal (MSK)

MRI