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So diffusion pitfalls, uh, just like in adults, right?

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If you're not doing in the first like few days,

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which often happens because you're cooling them and stuff,

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or they're not stable, then it

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could pseudo normalize, right?

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So pseudo normalization, um, happens like around a week.

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Uh, so timing is one thing. Also the gradient.

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So what we call the B value, the gradient strength.

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So babies are, are, uh, less an isotropic

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'cause they're not myelinated, right?

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So in adults we typically do B of a thousand as a standard.

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Uh, but in kids we often do B value seven or 800

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because they're more watery, right?

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There's nothing to measure. Um, you can go higher.

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You could go to like, let's say B of 2000

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and you could exaggerate the contrast,

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but you could also over call, right?

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Because you might be exaggerating the

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normal physiologic contrast.

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And if you're not familiar with that appearance,

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you might over call, um, ischemia.

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Uh, and you can also do synthetic gradients.

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So I, I recommend that honestly,

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because if you already have like two, two B values,

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zero in let's say 800, you can,

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you can essentially generate other synthetic ones.

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If you wanna just exaggerate contrast without trying

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to overcall temperature's also an issue, right?

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Because, uh, water molecules diffuse more slowly

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at lower temperatures, right?

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And more fast. So if you're cooling, you're gonna again, uh,

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potentially overestimate the level of restriction.

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And then as you rewarm

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that pseudo normalization may actually be

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stretched out in terms of time.

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Um, so these were all kind

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of like in the middle time period, like maybe like

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around five to seven days where we did diffusion.

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And as you can see, this one has only one spot,

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but it was a moderate HII, it's just that, uh, a lot

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of it had pseudo normalized by then.

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This was a MCA large, uh, large vessel occlusion,

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but only the lenticular trites are

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like, you know, fully restricted.

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The rest was partially pseudo normalized.

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And then these areas again, so, uh,

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if it's a severe insult, right?

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Moderate, severe, you have ongoing injury a day, five

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to seven, that's pretty, that's pretty bad, right?

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Because normally the diffusion stuff comes down

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and starts to pseudo normalize after four days.

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So if you're still seeing diffusion restriction,

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even if you're only seeing like a little spot,

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but the fact that you're seeing it later on means

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that you're probably dealing with a more serious insult, if

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that makes sense.

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Faculty

Mai-Lan Ho, MD

Professor and Vice Chair of Radiology

University of Missouri

Tags

Vascular

Trauma

Pediatrics

Neuroradiology

Neonatal

Metabolic

MRI

Infectious

Iatrogenic

Drug related

Congenital

Brain

Acquired/Developmental