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So this section is all about the pitfalls of PSMA imaging.
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And so I really kind of want to showcase a few examples
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of things that are A-P-S-M-A
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AVID that aren't prostate cancer.
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And we're going to finish up by having a look at some cases
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of PSMA negative disease
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and when different scans can help us to troubleshoot issues
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for the patient and guide patient management effectively.
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So for this one, you'll have noticed
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that I have given two PET scans.
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One is A-P-S-M-A PET and one is an FDG.
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And you're like, well why are we doing FDG?
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Because we're in A-P-S-M-A talk,
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but we'll see why in just a moment.
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So as always, we will start with our rotating MIB
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and we won't go through necessarily the full um, gamut
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of reporting these scans.
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We'll just kind of stick to the salient abnormalities,
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but you can see that there is focal abnormal increased
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uptake in the prostate, inferior
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to the bladder on a background of some heterogeneous uptake.
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Not too much going on in terms of nodal disease elsewhere
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through the pelvis, which looks pretty good.
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But you'll notice as we spin this gentleman there is
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something going on in the lungs and we always look
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and we always try and work out what's going on there.
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So let's start with the prostate here.
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There is abnormal uptake corresponding to
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what we saw on the rotating MIT that's increased
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above background, kind of heterogeneous,
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but it's extending to the peripheral zone
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and it is asymmetrical.
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So I'd be calling this consistent with disease
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and probably looking at the MRI to confirm that's the side
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of lesion and as per like our primary score,
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we'd probably be sitting that as a primary four.
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So coming up and when we check our lymph nodes
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and that all has looked good.
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So scrolling all the way up to the thorax
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to see what's going on here.
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And yes, there's a lesion.
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So here's one I prepared earlier
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with our lung window on this case.
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And so there is a nodule
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and it is mildly PSMA expressing not as hot
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as the primary though, and it would be really unusual
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for a primary prostate cancer without nodal disease
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to go straight to the lung.
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That is just a really uncommon pattern.
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So already alarm bells are ringing
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that something else is going on here.
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So we'll check the lungs really carefully,
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make sure there are no further nodules,
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really interrogate the mediastinal lymph
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nodes to see what's happening.
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And also coming up in this one.
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Is there anything going on in the head and neck?
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No, all looks good.
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So the patient had a diagnostic CT
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and then they came back to us for an FDG pet.
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And let's bring the two rotating MIPS up
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and I'll put them just
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so we can scroll backward and forward.
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Sorry, this one's a little bit darker,
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so I'll just adjust the level,
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make the background a bit wider here.
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There we go. That's much nicer.
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So you can see we will make true right, true left,
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there's uptake in the prostate
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and a little bit of uptake in that lesion there compared
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to here where we've only really got one
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small focus of uptake.
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So it's much, much less extensive
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and a more pronounced area of uptake in that lung.
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Interestingly though, we've also got uptake in the base
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of the neck and there's also something sitting here in the
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retroperitoneum as well as two
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More dominant lesions in the abdomen.
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So we're seeing much, much more, let's go back again,
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were those bowel lesions?
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Oh maybe there, but it would be a tough call, tough call.
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Maybe something in here as well.
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I, but certainly we're seeing much, much more.
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So as we can see the prostate cancer
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and let's go all the way down the bottom
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is not predominantly FTG Abbott.
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Maybe one small component is got a little bit of uptake,
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but that could be within physiological limits.
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So this really does showcase that FT G is not the right
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FTG PET is not the right test
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for well differentiated prostate cancer.
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But coming up we've got a large lesion here as well
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as some focal uptake here.
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And the patient at this point had already undergone
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colonoscopy and had been diagnosed with two synchronous
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bowel tumors, bowel carcinomas,
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and then coming up to the lung there's our focal lesion.
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And so being um, a lung cancer person, we'll just kind
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of briefly stop here
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and see that we've got a nodule in the lung which has an
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irregular speculated border.
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The patient has got background emphysema,
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so they've got a higher risk for lung cancer.
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It's tethering in that fissure.
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And actually this was a case
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of a primary lung cancer biopsy proven,
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but then we remember we had one more spot of uptake.
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So let's go back to our fusion, come up to the pace of neck.
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And then there was a FDG AVID nodule in the left side
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of the thyroid, which was completely negative on PSMA.
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So this was actually also biopsied
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and this was a thyroid cancer.
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So this patient had prostate cancer,
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two synchronous bowel primary tumors, lung cancer,
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and a thyroid cancer as well.
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So I chose this case to show
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because we've got a whole gamut of malignancies, some
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that demonstrate uptake on PSMA PET and some which don't.
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And you can see that really the prostate cancer was well
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shown on the PSMA.
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The lung cancer had a little bit of uptake,
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but the thyroid cancer and the bowel cancers didn't have
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much at all or it was difficult
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to discern from background physiological activity.
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So that can be a pitfall.
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You can see other malignancies on PSMA pet
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and you need to keep your guard up.