Interactive Transcript
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We added some new additions in 2022
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with atypical pulmonary cysts and cavitary nodules.
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An area for which there's not a lot of evidence.
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You will talk about this in the mastery course under the
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section on cystic lesions.
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And then we added some clarifications, nodules
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that touch the pleural surface airway nodules,
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nodule growth, introduce this new concept
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of step management, reinforced what to do with findings
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that could be infectious or inflammatory,
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and talk about the S modifier for incidental findings.
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So lung rads, uh,
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will always be on the ACRs lung cancer screening resource
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webpage as uh, downloadable.
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I have a link to it on our PAX Workstation dashboard so
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that it's easily accessible to all
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of us when we're interpreting uh, lung cancer screening cts.
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I was the inaugural chair of the Lung RADS committee
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and continue to serve on that group.
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But there are so many categories
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and details that I always refer back to this,
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particularly when I'm getting into the higher categories
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of abnormal screens.
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And we'll go into these in more detail
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as we talk about these.
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Uh, looking at cases later.
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And we have positive screens, long RADS three, four a,
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four B, and four x, which range from probably benign
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to suspicious, very suspicious.
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Um, that would have a more intense followup recommendation.
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And you'll see in each category we have solid
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part solid nod solid.
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And now we have added cystic lesions.
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Jux pleural nodules are a good one to talk about.
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Um, it it's fairly brief
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and that any nodule that is along any pleural surface
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that meets the criteria for an intra pulmonary lymph node
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and is under 10 millimeters can be called a negative screen.
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Category two, whether they're along the mediastinal pleura,
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the costal pleura or the diaphragmatic pleura.
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And previously the pleural nodule criteria applied only
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to peri fial nodules.
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And there is now evidence from two studies looking at costal
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and diaphragmatic pleural nodules
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that we can treat them the same.
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Typical inter pulmonary lymph nodes are bi convex,
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triangular, angular and shape.
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They abut pleural surfaces are smooth
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and are under a centimeter
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and these can now comfortably be called lung rats,
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two negative screens no matter which pleural
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surface they touch.
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Whereas nodules that have acute angles
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with the pleural surface are lobulated with acute angles
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or ill-defined part solid
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and like this nodule, all
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of these will be considered abnormal screens
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and do not meet the criteria for jux pleural nodules.
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By having these criteria for jux pleural nodules,
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we reduce the percentage of positive screens
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by downgrading long RADS three cases to lung RADS two.
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The cystic or cavitary nodule update is an important one.
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There is much less evidence behind this.
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So I would say there's more informed knowledge of practice
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that is in this part of the
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Guideline of recommendations in lung RADS compared
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to the other nodule types
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and we hope this will drive the collection
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of more information in the future.
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Endo bronchial nodules, um, some additional information
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and clarification and now putting them
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in the lung rads table.
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They occur in about half a percent
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of individuals undergoing lung cancer screening most resolve
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on followup imaging and are simply benign secretions,
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but sometimes they're not.
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So we've included criteria on what to do with them
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as they get larger, particularly when they get into the
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segmental airways and are fixed
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or larger airways
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where these become higher level positive screens
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for follow-up and management usually involving a
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bronchoscopy at the largest airway sizes.
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We've added some clarification for how to treat findings
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that are infectious or inflammatory when interpreting lung
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cancer screening cts.
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These findings of infection are things you see day
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to day when interpreting chest cts.
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Ordinarily for patients who do have infection
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but they confound our ability to give a screening result
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because they cover up parts of the lung,
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whether it's segmental or lower consolidation.
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A nodule like this with surrounding ground glass,
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perhaps an atypical form of infection
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or somebody with multiple new nodules, ary nodules
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or peri bronchial nodules perhaps aspiration.
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These things all make it difficult
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to clear a part of the lungs.
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So we recommend calling infection things
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that you think are infection.
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Lung ran zero and doing a followup CT in one to three months
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to be able to reassess that portion of the lung parenchyma.
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The concept of step management I think is very important
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and it really matches the follow-up that we're doing
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for positive screens to the risk of cancer.
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In the original versions of Lung rads,
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if you had a lung RADS three or four A
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and underwent a six month
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or three month interim ct, if that CT was negative
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with no growth, the recommendation was
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to continue screening in a year and that didn't feel right
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because the higher risk four a lesions were waiting 12
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months as were the lower risk three lesions going
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for 12 month follow up.
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So our new schema is that if you have a long RADS three
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or four A and you get an interim six
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or three months CT, that instead of going all the way down
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to long RADS two for everybody continuing annual screening,
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you just step down one category at a time.
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So in long RADS version 1.1, if you had a lung RADS three,
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you would get a followup CT in six months
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and then you would continue your screening calendar.
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Now you're going to go to negative screen category two,
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which means you go out to 12 months from
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that stable interim exam.
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A lung RADS four a CT
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would normally get a three month interim ct.
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And then after that return
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to their annual screening calendar,
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which was quite a ways out.
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Now they go from long rats, four A
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To long rats, three if it's stable,
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and then if that's stable again to category two.
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So we step people down by category
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as they've had positive screens so
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that we get closer management of the higher risk lesions
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and the lower risk lesions go further out in time.
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Similarly, we can use step management for four B
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and four X lesions that have had their workup
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and thought to be benign.
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For example, they might have had a specific benign diagnosis
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or a presumed benign diagnosis based on lack of tissue,
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evidence of tumor or a negative PET scan.
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And we don't want to step them all the way down from four B
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to negative screen.
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That would be taking some
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of the highest risk lesions in WA waiting 12 months.
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So once patients fall into this four B
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or four X category where the lesion is thought to be benign
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by workup, usually done by a pulmonary medicine physician,
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then they step down to four A
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and then they step down to three
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before they go down to category two.
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So we continue to watch them closely
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and then extend that follow-up
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until they get back into the annual
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screening at 12 month mark.
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Not wanting to miss a false negative cancer
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after its initial workup.
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There's lots of information available
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to you on the 2022 Lung-RADS update.
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The summary of changes for Lung-RADS version 2022 compared
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to the earlier versions is available on the Lung-RADS
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webpage at the A CR.
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There are two publications in print.
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Uh, one from the Lung-RADS committee itself
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that was published in JACR recently
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and one also published in Radiographics that go through
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and explain the updates.
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I think the one that's in JACR has a lot of detail
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behind the thinking of the long rans committee
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and why it decided to make the updates
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where the evidence is strong
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and where the evidence is combined with a lot
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of expert wisdom as in the case of cystic nodules.
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The modules in this course we will discuss,
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include nodule types, look at them in a case-based format,
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from solid parts, solid nonsolid, cystic to airway nodules,
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as well as some of the important essential
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findings in more detail.
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Thanks so much for learning more about lung rats together
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and an overview and what will be coming next
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as we do our case-based review format.