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Dr. Chang for a case review of CT colonography cases.
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Dr. Chang completed his radiology residency
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at Boston University and his cross-sectional
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imaging fellowship at Johns Hopkins Hospital.
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He's an associate professor of radiology at Boston
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University's Chobanian and Avedisian School of Medicine,
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and an adjunct associate professor of diagnostic
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imaging at Brown University's Alpert Medical School.
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Dr. Chang, please take it from here.
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Good afternoon.
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My name is Dr. Kevin Chang.
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I'm a, I'm a radiologist at Boston Medical
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Center, Boston University Medical Center,
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and currently the section chief for abdominal
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imaging at, uh, Boston Medical Center.
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I'm an associate professor in radiology at,
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uh, Boston University School of Medicine.
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The, uh—
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The Chobanian and Avedisian School of Medicine,
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also an adjunct associate professor, uh,
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in diagnostic imaging at Brown University.
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I've been a long-time reader of CT colonography
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and a teacher of CT colonography for,
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for, uh, over a decade and, uh, and have—
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Had experience at, uh, multiple institutions
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other than Boston University as well, including,
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uh, Newton-Wellesley Hospital and the Rhode Island
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Hospital, and the Rhode Island Medical Imaging system.
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Uh, today I'm gonna be showing you a bunch of, um,
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interactive cases, uh, on the TeraRecon platform.
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I have multiple teaching cases to show
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you how I read CT colonographies using both a
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primary 2D read as well as a primary 3D read.
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And I'll show you, uh, an example of multiple
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different kinds of pathologies—polyps,
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cancers, other interesting, um, features
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that you need to be able to describe.
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And I'll also, uh, show you how we use the C-RADS,
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uh, system—the CT Colonography Reporting and
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Data System—to classify lesions and
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to guide management for, uh, for the findings.
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That's what we're gonna be doing today.
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So from our list of, uh, anonymized
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cases, I'm gonna be choosing the case
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with the supine and the prone dataset.
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So usually CT colonography, we get at least two data
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sets in two different positions. At our institution,
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we usually will scan the patient once on their
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back and once on their belly, but you can choose
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any two different, um, uh, positions you like,
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uh, as long as you give the tagged fluid and the tagged
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stool a chance to, to, to redistribute on the two
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views so that you can get a chance to look at, uh,
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the entire circumference of the colonic mucosa,
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uh, in air relief on one of the two positions.
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So we choose supine and prone, but
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it can be any two that you'd like.
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I make sure I'm choosing the thin cuts,
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the ones that are 1.25 millimeters thin.
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And basically we recommend scanning with,
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uh, thin cuts at, uh, no greater than 1.25
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millimeters. I would say it can be thinner than that.
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And then I load it up in the colonography fly-through
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package here, and it will choose the, um, centerline.
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It's gonna try to—the package is gonna try
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to automatically select out the gas-filled colon
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and render a camera line through the center of the
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lumen in both the supine and the prone dataset.
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So on the left, we have the supine images and it's
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automatically picked the colon out in green here.
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And you can turn the 3D model around and
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make sure that the, um, the segments that
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are selected are colon and not anything else.
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For example, here we've got a little bit of
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the rectum here, so I'm gonna unselect that.
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Looks like you can't unselect that without un-
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selecting the ascending colon and the cecum.
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And that's fine.
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And then here we've got most of the colon
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selected except for the, uh, the rectosigmoid.
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And now I've added that back in because the,
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um, if there's a fluid-filled segment of
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the bowel, it may not know how to trace the
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centerline through the lumen quite as well.
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So you have to manually select that.
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But these look like they're both appropriate.
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Then hit the, the next step button and it'll
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try to render the, the centerline through.
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So basically this part is just
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a game of connect the dots.
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You wanna make sure that it's starting in the, in
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the right place and ending in the right place and
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going through the segments in the right order.
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So this looks like it's doing a pretty good
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job of that, although in the beginning it
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looks like it's going right down the barrel
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of our rectal catheter, which is fine.
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You're not gonna find polyps
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inside the rectal catheter.
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But, but we will get into the,
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uh, the rest of the colon.
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Then I hit okay.
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And then we should be ready to,
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um, to do our, our 3D fly-throughs.
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But for, for the time being, I think we will start
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with the 2D, um, evaluation because that's probably
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the, the easiest way to, uh, pick up CT colonography.
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Just to make sure that the 3D images look appropriate.
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I want to, um, window it so that there's,
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uh, to minimize the amount of noise on the,
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um, on the, um, the wall of the structures.
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And given that we are using a very, uh, low radiation
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dose protocol, uh, I tend to have to adjust this
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just a little bit to make it a little bit less noisy.
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So these are our 3D settings.
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Basically the, um, the rendering
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thresholds for the surface render.
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And I do that for both positions here.
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So basically you could see how
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there's a little bit of, um—
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Noise along the wall of the colon here,
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and I'm just adjusting the, um, the
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threshold to make it a little bit smoother.
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All right, so that's basically that.
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And then you can choose on this package,
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you can choose a, a variety of different
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workflows, uh, and different layouts.
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Uh, for a primary 2D read, you can either
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use the 3D read here or you, we can try the
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primary 2D, which does, which aligns both the
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supine and the prone together at the same time.
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I don't like to scroll 'em at the same time,
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uh, because, uh, I like to look at each
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side individually, but basically the, um—
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The next step here is to, the first
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step is just to judge the quality of the
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distension and the quality of the bowel prep.
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So I'm looking through, uh, on small
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field of view windows through the colon.
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And basically the job is to, to fly through, basically
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to assess the entire colonic lumen from the anal
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verge all the way to the cecum on both positions.
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And, uh, you want to set your window wide enough
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so that you can see through the tagged fluid.
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'Cause here you can see the oral contrast
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tagging any residual fluid and stool in the
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colon, while still being able to differentiate
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a, a soft tissue density polyp from, from the
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adjacent fat, or from a lipoma, for example.
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Basically the definition of your target lesion
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on CT colonography is either a polyp or a mass
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that's, um, soft tissue attenuation and density.
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So you don't want any mixed attenuation within it.
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If you see something that has gas bubbles inside it
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or contrast inside of it, or fat attenuation inside
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of it, then you're dealing with either a tagged,
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um, stool or bubbles, uh, or fecal material, or
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in the latter case, uh, something like a lipoma.
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So it needs to be soft—
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Have a soft tissue core.
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So here you can see the rectal catheter here.
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There's a balloon in here, um, which is filled
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with, uh, with air, and you could see that better.
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If you go to a long window, you'll see
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the, the wall of the balloon there.
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And then I basically, this is the tip of the
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rectal catheter here, and I'm just scrolling
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through and bringing up the field of view here so
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that you can look for any bumps along the wall.
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Of, um, the colon, either the, the lateral walls,
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or you have to also scroll through the top and the
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bottom of each turn, looking for any polyps on the
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top or the bottom side of a, of a, of a loop of bowel.
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So here we're in the distal, um, sigmoid colon here,
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and basically we're scrolling through, looking for
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any bumps, anything that doesn't look like a haustral
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fold, that might be soft tissue in attenuation.
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So in this case, I'd be scrolling through the
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top of the sigmoid colon here through the, the
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proximal sigmoid colon here, and then now we're
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in the descending colon, scrolling all the way up.
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And the, the more experience you have
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with this, the faster you can do this.
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Looking through the contrast, making sure that
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there's no submerged polyps that you may not
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necessarily be able to see on the 3D view.
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And then going all the way up
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through the splenic flexure here,
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scrolling through the transverse colon now,
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and then this is your transverse colon.
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I'm gonna scroll through the bottom and the top of
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each turn, and then you see our first finding here.
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So right in there
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to confirm that finding.
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So, so you can see there's something here that looks
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a little bit different from the adjacent folds.
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You can go to our soft tissue windows.
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You can see that the center of it does look like
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it's soft tissue in attenuation, similar to, uh,
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muscle or, or liver, for example, different from
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the adjacent fat, uh, outside of the colonic wall.
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There's a little bit of contrast
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between the, this polyp,
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the adjacent fold here, and that's fine.
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Contrast on the surface of a
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polyp is, is, uh, acceptable.
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In fact, sometimes it's the best way to
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see a polyp, especially on these 2D views,
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is if it's, um, coated with contrast.
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But the center of the, um, of the finding
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needs to be soft tissue in attenuation.
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And if you look at that same area on the 3D
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images—so if you set up the 3D images here—you
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can see what this, uh, polyp looks like in 3D.
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And this is probably the best way you can
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appreciate the morphology of a finding.
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You can see it's, there's a polyp with
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a stalk and it looks like the stalk
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is arising from a, a haustral fold,
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just like you can see it on the 2Ds.
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So there's a couple different ways of, uh,
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figuring out what to do with this polyp.
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Basically, a lot of our management
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is based off polyp size.
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The larger the polyp is, the higher the
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likelihood that it's going to represent
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a, uh, uh, a high-grade adenoma.
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Uh, the, the larger it is, the more precancerous
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or the potentially cancerous a polyp may be.
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So in this case, you know, you can, you can try
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to—the best way to measure it is actually off
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the 3D images because you can get the maximal
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dimension of the polyp excluding the stalk.
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And that's how a polyp is classified by the
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gastroenterologist at the time of, uh, colonoscopy.
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Um, and, uh, the best way to figure out what the
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long axis—the maximal dimension—of
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a polyp is, is by looking at it on the 3D views.
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'Cause there's no guarantee that the 2D
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views is gonna be the maximal dimension.
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And I'll give you an example of that here.
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You wanna measure from edge to edge
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without shooting off the edge of the—
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And this is—you have to be a little bit careful
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of where you put the caliper because, um, if
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you place the caliper a little too far off
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the edge of the polyp, you can over-measure
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because the, uh, 3D workstation thinks that
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you're measuring from this point to a point
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on the far wall of the colon, for example.
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So when you place this caliper, I, I rotate around
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the polyp just to make sure that I'm staying on
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the polyp and I'm not putting the, the, um, the
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marker down, uh, on the far wall of the colon.
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'Cause for example, if I move it to over here,
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you can see that, uh, it may not necessarily
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be measuring, uh, the polyp itself anymore.
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And the, the, the point may be placed on a, on a part
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of the colonic wall, on the other side of the polyp.
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So we've got something that's
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over a centimeter in size here.
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If we try to measure it off the 2Ds, uh, usually
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you may end up underestimating the size of the polyp.
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See for example here, if you measure it off of
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just the 2Ds, you could potentially get a,
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a number that's less than a, a centimeter, and
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that one-centimeter, um, size threshold
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is an important one in the C-RADS system.
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So C-RADS is how we, um, how we manage
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polyps of different size and number.
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So basically, um, C1 would be,
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uh, a normal colonography or benign
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findings like lipomas, for example.
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Uh, a C2 would be if you have one or two
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subcentimeter polyps, and polyps we define as
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being, uh, six millimeters or larger in size.
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So if you have one or two polyps that are six to
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nine millimeters in size, rounding to the closest
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millimeter, then, uh, we give the patient two options.
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One would be a, a short-term follow-up
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CT colonography within three years.
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Which is, uh, perfectly acceptable and safe.
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Uh, option for, for following up these, uh,
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these low-risk polyps or in the, uh, refer or
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the patient's, um, preference if they prefer
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a colonoscopy, uh, for a polypectomy, that's
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also an appropriate, uh, management option.
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And then at the one-centimeter size threshold,
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the 10-millimeter size threshold, we start
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putting the patients into a C3 category.
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So if you have one polyp that's 10 millimeters
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or larger in size, or you have three sub-
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centimeter polyps or more, then, uh, generally
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the recommendation for C3 is to go on
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to the, uh, colonoscopy for polypectomy.
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And then we use the C4 category for, uh, masses.
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And these are our classic, uh, colon cancers
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that I will show you a little bit later.
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The, um, the large annular, uh, apple
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core lesions or, or saddle lesions.
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Big, big mass.
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So this is our first finding here.
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And the other thing that you want to do once
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you find a finding is to confirm that you're
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also seeing it on the other view, because
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you have two chances to see this same polyp.
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Uh, another way to differentiate a, a polyp
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from a stool ball is to show that it's in
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the same general location on both positions.
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So basically, a polyp should have a pretty
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fixed location, um, relative to the colon and
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the adjacent haustral folds, uh, despite
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changes in patient position, whereas a stool ball
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may fall independently, uh, without a stalk
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or without an attachment to the colonic wall.
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So in this case, in this same location here,
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you're seeing that there is a filling defect
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within this pool of contrast in the same location,
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in the mid-transverse colon, and you're able to
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see the stalk connecting it to the, um, to that
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haustral fold in the mid-transverse colon.
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And you're not seeing it on the 3D images here
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because it's obscured, it's submerged by the contrast.
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And if we had not used our fluid tagging
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material, you wouldn't be able to see this on
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the, on, on the 2D images either because there's
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not enough of an attenuation differential
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between, um, untagged fluid and a polyp.
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Although depending on your software package,
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you could see the, the, if the, the—
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Gas-fluid level here is being rendered as a solid
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in appearance, but occasionally you can do a remove
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stool function to try to subtract out electronically,
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subtract out fluid above a certain threshold.
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Uh, but you need to have enough, uh,
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contrast tagging to be able to do that.
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And it tends to leave artifacts on the, um, 3D views—
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these bathtub rings at that three-material interfaces
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between the contrast, the gas, and the bowel wall.
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So I, I don't tend to like
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to use that on the 3D views.
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So continuing through there, I think
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there's, um, this was the major finding.
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Um, I do the same thing and I just keep, I
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continue going through the remainder of the colon
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on the 2Ds and looking at any interesting
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findings on 3D just to make sure that, um—
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Anything that I do see does not represent
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a haustral fold and looks like a real polyp.
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And then you confirm the, um, the attenuation
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of that polyp on the, um, the 2D views.
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And here where we've reached the, the cecum
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here, this is our ileocecal valve, our
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typical appearance with the ileocecal valve.
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It looks like a, um, pair of lips here,
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and between the, the lips, you can see
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the hole going into the terminal ileum.
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And then right next door to it here,
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this is your appendiceal orifice.
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So there's a little bit of a, a tiny little hole,
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which represents the orifice of the appendix.
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You can see on the 2D views here,
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where the appendix is coming off.
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And then there's contrast in the
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remainder of the appendix here.
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And then if you keep scrolling through,
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you'll see that it should be a blind
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ending, defining it as the appendix.
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So that's the appendiceal orifice.
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The typical appearance for the ileocecal valve.
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And there's a wide, uh, variety of
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appearances for the ileocecal valve.
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They can be varying degrees of, um, thinness
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or, or, you know, plumpness and, uh, but
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for the most part, uh, as long as it's, um—
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Typical in appearance or fat in attenuation.
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'Cause oftentimes the, a bulky part and a
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bulky ileocecal valve may look very, um, um,
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will show fat attenuation in the inside of it.
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But, um, but that's your typical
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appearance for the ileocecal valve.
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And sometimes you can fly through
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into the ileocecal valve as well.
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So I'll look at as much of the, um, termin—
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um, as I can if, if the fly-through includes it.
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And then I do this exact same
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thing with the, the prone images.
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And I'm not gonna take you through the exact
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same process, but basically I do the same
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thing in this position, scrolling through
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from anal verge all the way back to cecum.
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With a, a window wide enough to look at the, the
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wall, looking for any bumps, as well as to look through
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the contrast to look for any submerged polyps.
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And that's the, um, the 3D fly-through.
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And again, on the, uh, on the prone images, you can
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see what the typical appearance of the ileocecal valve
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is, uh, as well as the appendiceal orifice over here.
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All right, so that is our first case.
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I think there may have been one
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other smaller polyp in this case.
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Let's see if I can show you an even more subtle one.
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Right here.
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So this is an example of kind of the, um,
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the lower limit of what we would be confident
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in calling a polyp on, uh, CT colonography.
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You can see this one does not have a stalk
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in it, and, uh, it looks a little more sessile.
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It's also, uh, located on a
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haustral fold in the sigmoid colon.
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And just to confirm that, that's not a—
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An untagged piece of stool.
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You can look for the same finding in
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the same location on the prone images.
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And right there you can see the same
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similar-looking structure there, which if
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you measure the long axis is probably going
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to barely meet the six-millimeter cutoff.
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May or may not even meet that six-millimeter cutoff.
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I think at the time that I read this originally, I
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called it six millimeters and both of these were
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confirmed at the time of, uh, of colonoscopy.
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All right, so that is basically the, the
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primary 2D read for, um, CT colonography.
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In the next case, I'll show you
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how, uh, how I like to read.
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I actually prefer reading that with
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a primary 3D read in the beginning.
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It takes at least 20, 30 minutes sometimes
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to, to, to read one of these cases,
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uh, when you're first starting out, but
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then you get much quicker at doing this.
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And, um, in the best of hands, oftentimes
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you can, you can finish reading a
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CT colonography within 10 minutes.
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Um, the, either the better distended and the
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better prepped the colon is, the easier they
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are to read and the faster they are to read.
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But, uh, just to, to change up the pace,
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I often prefer reading in the primary
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3D mode, which I'll show you next.
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So for a second case, I've loaded up a,
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another case with the, uh, the primary 3D
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workflow here, and I'm gonna show you how I
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like to read, uh, with a primary 3D setup.
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So, uh—
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Basically I have the three, uh, multiplanar reformats
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set up here on the left side: your axial image, a
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coronal reformat, and a sagittal reformat, again starting
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at the anus and flying through to the cecum.
21:47
And then we're gonna turn around and fly back.
21:49
So the primary 3D read, instead of looking at the 2D
21:52
images and scrolling through the 2D images, looking
21:54
for a, uh, polyp, we're gonna do the same thing,
21:57
but with a fly-through on the 3D fly-through here.
22:00
Um, there's a colon map here in the corner
22:03
here, which you can, uh, use as your roadmap to
22:05
try to figure out where you are in the colon.
22:08
Uh, we're better able than the gastroenterologists
22:10
are in figuring out where we are and in which
22:13
segment of the colon we are, because oftentimes
22:15
when the endoscope is inside the colon, they
22:18
don't know which segment they're exactly in,
22:20
especially, uh, the more tortuous the colon is.
22:23
They don't know which flexure is the splenic
22:25
flexure and which flexure is the, the hepatic
22:28
flexure. With our colon map here, we're much
22:31
better able to tell where we are in the colon.
22:35
And the colon map—
22:35
When you make any findings and you tag
22:37
any findings, they show up as a, as a,
22:40
a nice annotation on this image as well.
22:42
So I like to save these images to PACS to show
22:44
the endoscopist where a finding that we make is.
22:49
So that's our map.
22:50
And then our primary 3D area is here.
22:53
Some packages will also have other
22:55
alternate 3D views of the colon.
22:58
In this case, this is a, uh, a filet view.
23:01
Um, when we get further up in the colon, I'll show
23:03
you what the typical appearance of the filet view
23:06
is, but there's quite a bit of, um, image distortion
23:08
inherent in this method of looking at the colon.
23:11
But it can potentially, um, accelerate your read,
23:17
your primary 3D read, if you know how to read through
23:19
the, um, image distortion inherent in this image.
23:23
So I start here and I fly through from the anus.
23:30
And then initially you fly retrograde through
23:32
the colon, and then we're flying along
23:34
the barrel of our rectal catheter here.
23:36
If you wanna see the rectal catheter, I'm—
23:39
showing you, this is the rectal catheter.
23:41
Um, and this is the anal verge looking back
23:46
at the back of the colon in the anal verge.
23:48
This is the, the, the tip of
23:50
the, um, the catheter here.
23:55
And on the fly-through, we're looking for any bumps.
23:58
And so here it's, I think I find it less fatiguing
24:01
looking at these images than the 2D images because
24:04
it's a lot easier to tell what a fold looks like.
24:08
And, uh, it's easier to differentiate
24:10
a, a polyp from these folds.
24:12
But you do have the 2D views here to, um, correlate
24:15
a finding that you make on the 3D views, just to make
24:18
sure that what you're seeing is not, uh, not a polyp.
24:22
For example, this little—
24:23
Here, it's smaller than six millimeters, so I
24:25
wouldn't have even bothered with looking at it.
24:28
But you can tell here on the, on the 2D
24:29
views that it's denser than soft tissue.
24:32
It's, uh, it's, um, contrast attenuation.
24:35
So that's just a little tagged piece
24:37
of stool and I keep going through in
24:39
this direction until I reach the cecum.
24:42
And then the goal is to fly, to turn
24:44
around and fly back towards the anus.
24:47
So usually we set up 120-degree field of view on the,
24:52
on the endoluminal camera here, and you can set that
24:55
in your options, depending on your software package.
24:59
You can set the angle viewing angle here.
25:01
The, the wider the angle, the more of the, um, mucosa
25:04
you're going to be able to see on each fly-through.
25:07
And you, you can see on this particular
25:08
package, you can go all the way to 360
25:11
degrees and have a 360-degree field of view.
25:13
But again, there, there can be quite
25:16
a bit of distortion inherent in that.
25:17
For example, here, this is what a 360
25:19
degree camera looks like, not, um—
25:23
Physically possible, but through the
25:25
magic of software, you can do it.
25:27
And you can see backwards over here, but you can
25:29
see how the image gets, uh, very fisheye distorted.
25:33
So our recommended field of view is 120 degrees for
25:36
the most comfort in terms of the fly-through, but
25:38
it does require flying through in both directions
25:41
to be able to see both sides of a haustral fold.
25:43
'Cause, uh, for example, if you're flying through,
25:45
you may not be seeing the backside of each haustral
25:47
fold quite as well, uh, as if you fly both
25:51
fly forward and backward in both directions.
25:54
So right now we're in the transverse colon.
25:55
You can appreciate also the, the, the typical
25:57
architecture of the colon with our three haustral
26:00
folds, these three arcades of haustral folds.
26:03
And in some cases, you can even see the tenia coli
26:05
between the, the haustral folds here. For example,
26:08
here's a nice tenia coli, um, between each
26:12
of the three sets of the haustral folds and the—
26:17
The colon map is showing you, with that
26:20
purple arrow here, where the camera is
26:22
and where we are in the transverse colon.
26:26
So we're getting towards the ascending colon, where you
26:29
can already see that I marked a finding in advance.
26:37
So here's our hepatic flexure.
26:38
You can still see our gas-fluid level here.
26:41
And then we're seeing something that doesn't
26:43
look like a haustral fold in the ascending colon.
26:49
And I'm gonna delete the measurement here
26:50
because it's obviously an undermeasurement.
26:54
You see this mass here.
26:56
And then the question, I guess, is in the
26:58
ascending colon cecal area, is it an ileocecal
27:02
valve or is it not an ileocecal valve?
27:05
And there are multiple of these, um,
27:08
abnormal-looking haustral folds here.
27:10
So once we've found this area, and then
27:12
here's our, our appendiceal orifice.
27:14
Again, we know we're in the cecum.
27:18
This is what the appendiceal
27:19
orifice looks like on the 2D views.
27:21
So you're confirming that that's the appendix here.
27:25
We're also looking at what the rest of
27:27
the ascending colon looks like here.
27:28
Let's go into soft tissue windows, and you
27:30
can see what these folds look like on 2D and
27:37
widening the window to see through the contrast.
27:40
You can see there's definitely some, some
27:42
masses and haustral fold thickening and luminal
27:44
narrowing in the ascending colon here.
27:48
Uh, another plane that appreciate that
27:50
on would be the coronal images here.
27:52
So you can see if this is your appendiceal orifice.
27:57
We can see where the ileocecal valve is.
27:59
It's actually this fold right here, and on the
28:03
3D view, you can see the typical appearance.
28:05
This is a, a fairly classic appearance of the I valve.
28:09
Which tells me that nobody has
28:11
more than one ileocecal valve.
28:13
So everything else out here is not ileocecal valve.
28:15
It's this annular constricting mass in the ascending
28:19
colon just above the level of the ileocecal valve.
28:22
And remi—remember that the ileocecal valve
28:24
divides the cecum from the ascending colon.
28:27
So this, if this is located antegrade,
28:31
uh, downstream from the ileocecal valve,
28:33
it's located in the ascending colon.
28:35
So we've got a, an ugly looking
28:37
mass here in the ascending colon.
28:41
Another way to look at this is, um, you can
28:45
go to something called a Q view, which kind
28:47
of renders the, the mass, uh, in a cube.
28:53
And you can even go outside the mass to see what it
28:56
looks like from outside the, um, the colonic lumen.
29:04
Actually not quite, quite
29:06
working the way I want it here.
29:08
Gimme one second.
29:15
Okay, so on the outside view here, you can see the,
29:19
what the, um, the outside of the colon looks like.
29:22
You can see that annular constriction
29:23
here in the outside wall, the colon.
29:25
So this is the view that then
29:26
endoscopically definitely cannot get.
29:30
And then again, the view from
29:32
inside the colonic lumen there.
29:34
So we've got a mass here that's clearly
29:36
measuring more than 10 millimeters.
29:37
In fact, it's probably measuring more than, than, uh—
29:40
than four, three or four centimeters in size even.
29:43
So this would be something that we would, um, clearly
29:46
be very suspicious about a malignancy and, and we
29:49
would call this a C4 finding for a colonic mass.
29:54
This patient ended up go—getting
29:55
sent to a colonoscopic biopsy,
29:59
where it was confirmed that
30:00
we were dealing with a cancer.
30:01
And in fact, the, uh, a management option
30:04
that's acceptable for a C4 is a direct,
30:07
um, uh, direct referral to a colorectal surgeon.
30:12
Um, because our confidence is pretty
30:14
high that you are dealing with a neoplasm,
30:15
here, regardless of what the histology is.
30:18
More often than not, they want the histology
30:20
prior to planning for a right hemicolectomy.
30:22
But at the time of a hemicolectomy, this ended
30:25
up being a T3 N1b, uh, adenocarcinoma.
30:30
So this is an example of a, of a colon cancer on 3D.
30:34
But just to finish the, the, the 3D approach,
30:38
basically, once we reach the cecum, we turn
30:39
around and we fly back towards the anus.
30:44
And this gives you a chance to look at the
30:45
backside of all the haustral folds, uh,
30:48
on the way back to the, uh, anal verge and—
30:53
Once I do that for the supine views, then I switch to
30:55
the prone images and do the exact same thing from anal
31:01
verge to cecum, starting at the anus, flying through.
31:06
And I'll do this in a much
31:07
faster than I usually would,
31:09
just, uh, in the interest of time to show you
31:12
the, the primary 3D method from start to finish.
31:16
And again, you can see that mass
31:17
in the ascending colon there.
31:19
And then it—you turn around in the cecum and you
31:21
fly back and you can control the speed of how quickly
31:26
you're flying back through, through the colon.
31:30
And then when you reach the anus, then the one last
31:32
thing that I do do on, uh, with a primary 3D method,
31:35
is since I'm not electronically subtracting any fluid
31:39
present—
31:40
I'll look one last time on the 2D views,
31:42
just mainly focusing on the, the contrast levels
31:46
to make sure that I'm not missing a polyp that's
31:49
submerged on one view or the other view, or rarely—
31:53
It can be submerged on both views,
31:54
if there's an up of a twist of the colon between
31:57
the supine and the prone in, uh, positions where the
32:00
polyp could theoretically still be, um, submerged.
32:03
Um, and gravity dependent in both locations,
32:06
especially if it's a polyp on a long stalk that tends
32:08
to flop around, uh, where the head of the stalk may
32:11
flop around dependently, uh, in, in both positions.
32:16
And then I'm done with the, uh, looking at the colon.
32:20
Keep in mind the, the, you have the rest of
32:22
the, um, the abdomen on these images as well.
32:25
So one thing I do like to do, you, you want to
32:28
also make sure that you're not finding any, um—
32:32
Clinically relevant extracolonic findings.
32:35
So the other half of the C-RADS, uh, system
32:37
includes, uh, an E-score for extracolonic findings.
32:41
Um, again, E1 would be normal.
32:45
E2 is what we call a finding that's
32:49
clearly benign or not worth working
32:51
up, for example, like a renal cyst.
32:53
And then the next C-RADS, um, version that's
32:57
coming out imminently, we're combining C
32:59
1 and CT together into the same category.
33:01
In effect.
33:02
A C3 would be a finding that's incompletely
33:05
characterized and may require workup.
33:07
For example, a hyperdense renal cyst or
33:10
something that's, uh, not clearly defined,
33:13
but, um, but could be further evaluated with a
33:15
contrast-enhanced study, for example, CT or MRI.
33:19
And then an E4 is a, a, a clinically relevant, uh,
33:22
potentially urgent finding like a, uh, AAA or, um, uh—
33:28
Something that looks much more, um, uh, worrisome
33:32
for malignancy, like liver metastases, for example.
33:36
So that's the, the E portion of the, uh, C-RADS system.
33:39
So that's the primary 3D read.
33:42
Okay, for our third case, I'm gonna
33:44
show you a few more polypoid findings.
33:47
Um, in this partic—particular case, we have
33:49
multiple findings here in the right colon.
33:52
Um, we're here in the ascending colon here.
33:54
You can see on the 2D views here that
33:56
there are multiple findings that don't,
33:59
that look different from the haustral folds.
34:01
And, um, the largest one is located right here.
34:05
I'm showing it to you on the 3D image right here.
34:08
And you can see it looks polypoid.
34:11
There may or may not be a stalk associated
34:13
with it, but the key finding here is that
34:15
on the soft tissue windows, it does not
34:19
look like it's soft tissue attenuation.
34:21
It looks like it's similar in
34:22
attenuation to adjacent fat.
34:24
So that makes this a lipoma.
34:27
There are some tools in our toolbox for some of these
34:30
3D workstations that help you, uh, look inside a
34:33
polyp without necessarily looking at the 2D views.
34:36
But I find the 2D views to, to still be ground truth.
34:39
That's the one I trust the most, but there are some,
34:42
some of them have this kind of an x-ray view to it.
34:45
Um, try to get it centered over the polyp here,
34:50
where it'll kind of allow you to look inside
34:53
the polyp here and scroll through the inside
34:55
of a polyp and render the attenuation of the
34:58
material, uh, along the Hounsfield unit scale here.
35:01
And what you're really looking for here is
35:03
something that's kind of mostly green-colored,
35:06
whereas in this case, we're seeing things that
35:07
are kind of closer to blue or purple, representing
35:10
fat attenuation, negative Hounsfield unit numbers.
35:13
So this x-ray view, this, this spot NPR
35:17
view is, um, is telling us that we're
35:19
dealing with a lipoma in this case.
35:22
So it doesn't matter what the size of this is.
35:24
You can try to measure it here just for
35:26
reporting purposes, but, um, the size doesn't
35:29
judge the, um, management of a lipoma.
35:32
Uh, generally, um, nothing is necessary in these
35:35
cases unless it happens to be so large that it
35:38
ends up being symptomatic or causes some issues
35:40
with, um, with luminal narrowing, for example.
35:45
Uh, there are other findings though in the ascending
35:47
colon that don't look clearly fat attenuation.
35:50
And you can see there's other—this one
35:52
looks like more of a billowy-looking, um,
35:55
polypoid mass located on an adjacent haustral
35:59
fold or further down the haustral fold here.
36:02
And this, uh, is, uh, consistent with a,
36:04
a polyp—soft tissue attenuation polyp.
36:08
You can either measure it as two separate
36:09
ones or one large one, but basically it
36:12
measures greater than one centimeter in size.
36:14
So this is something that we already know is gonna
36:16
be sent on to colonoscopy as a C3 lesion—C3 finding.
36:23
Um, let's see what else.
36:25
There are a few other findings in this case.
36:29
Right down here, you can see there's, there's a third
36:32
polypoid finding in the end colon on the 2D views.
36:36
You can see that the core of it is soft
36:39
tissue in attenuation, although there is a
36:41
coating of, of contrast around that polyp.
36:46
As long as it's on the surface and
36:47
not on the inside of it, that is fine.
36:50
Uh, as if the core of it looks like it's
36:52
soft tissue, then it counts as a polyp.
36:55
And this one looks a little more, um, like it could
36:57
be a, could have a little bit of a stalk to it.
37:01
So that one's more of a pedunculated
37:03
polyp and its size also.
37:06
Let's see what its size is.
37:08
It's, it's probably also big
37:10
enough to, to represent a C3.
37:15
Yeah, so we have some multiple sizable polyps
37:20
in the ascending colon in this particular case.
37:23
Um, let's see, what else is there to see here?
37:28
I think there was a fourth polyp in here somewhere.
37:31
Let's take a look and see if we can find it.
37:41
This one may have been easier
37:42
to appreciate on the 2D views.
37:48
There's a little bit of thickening and a lot
37:50
of contrast along this haustral fold here, but
37:55
one lipoma and multiple polyps
37:58
meeting size criteria for C3.
38:06
Okay.
38:08
Uh, one last thing I'll show you here is the, um.
38:11
This is the file view.
38:12
So basically the file view is, uh, analogous
38:15
to gross anatomy specimen of the colon.
38:18
Basically it's a, the colon stretched out,
38:20
straightened out, cut on one side and opened
38:23
up, fillet open like a, like a, a canvas.
38:27
And basically you're looking at the full
38:29
360-degree, um, circumference of the colon.
38:33
And, uh, this is the, um, the, the
38:35
luminal direction of the colon here.
38:37
The area that's grayed out here is basically
38:39
your area of overlap, so it's a little
38:41
bit more than 360 degrees, uh, wraparound.
38:44
And you can see your three haustral folds
38:47
here with the three taenia coli between them.
38:49
And basically you're looking for something
38:51
that looks different from these haustral folds.
38:54
For example, these, these, um,
38:56
lesions here in the ascending colon.
38:57
So this is what a mass would look like
38:59
on the, on the, um, on the fillet view.
39:02
Multiple of them here.
39:03
And you can just click your mouse on each one of
39:05
these and find them on the 3D and luminal view here,
39:09
as well as on the 2D images.
39:12
So this is how you can use this.
39:13
And if you page through this, you can
39:15
basically go down the length of the entire
39:17
colon very quickly in just a couple pictures.
39:20
Um, as long as you can read through the
39:23
image distortion that's particularly, um,
39:25
prominent at the, um, colonic flexures.
39:30
You can see there's other findings in here
39:31
that don't look like haustral folds either.
39:33
Um, and if you click on them, you can
39:35
see that they actually are outies, not
39:38
innies, so they're holes in the colon.
39:40
These are diverticula.
39:42
So this is your typical appearance
39:43
of the, the diverticulum.
39:45
And they differ in appearance from the haustral, from
39:48
the polyps in that, uh, when you rotate your camera,
39:51
you can see that it's, it's projecting outward
39:54
rather than inward into the lumen of the colon.
39:56
But you can also see that oftentimes you'll have
39:58
an incomplete ring of, um, of this, uh, dark, um,
40:04
dark rendering around the, the rim of the
40:06
finding because, uh, you're seeing some mucosal
40:10
continuity with the diverticulum on the other side.
40:12
So they tend to look a little different on the
40:14
3D views and usually are not a, uh, a difficult,
40:18
um, diagnosis to make on the 2D images.
40:20
As you can see that they, they look like they're
40:22
projecting out from the wall rather than, uh,
40:25
soft tissue attenuation projecting into the lumen.
40:28
Okay, for our fourth case, I'm showing you,
40:31
uh, another case here of a patient with, uh,
40:36
bilateral hip prosthesis.
40:37
So you can see there's a lot of artifact, streak
40:39
artifact, uh, beam hardening artifact, uh, between
40:42
these, uh, metallic prostheses in the bilateral hips.
40:46
You wanna widen your windows to be able to
40:47
see through that, you know, just like any
40:49
other, um, CT image you're looking through.
40:52
Um.
40:53
You have to deal with artifacts that
40:54
you have, uh, at the time of the scan.
40:57
There are metal artifact reduction algorithms
40:59
on many of these scanners that can help, uh,
41:01
alleviate some of the artifact associated with this.
41:04
You can see, interestingly, there's some
41:05
cement, um, leakage here medial to the,
41:08
uh, to the right acetabulum as well.
41:09
But when you fly through on the 2D images, when
41:12
we, when you scroll through on the 2D images, you
41:14
can see our first finding is in the sigmoid colon.
41:19
And this is the reason for the CT
41:21
colonography in this particular case.
41:23
So they, in addition to having an extremely tortuous
41:26
sigmoid colon here with a lot of diverticulosis,
41:30
there is a stricture in the sigmoid colon.
41:33
Uh, you could see some luminal narrowing here, uh, and
41:40
parts of it, you can see it on the 2D images as well.
41:45
This, uh, area of luminal narrowing and eccentric
41:48
wall thickening, um, soft tissue windows.
41:51
You can really see that there's some
41:52
bulky soft tissue in this suspected, uh,
41:55
malignant stricture in the sigmoid colon.
41:57
And this is what the, um, the,
41:59
the colonoscope could not pass.
42:01
So, you know, usually in these cases, the colonoscope
42:05
will get far enough that if there's a stricture
42:07
that's worrisome on endoscopy, they're gonna
42:09
auto, they're going to still be able to biopsy it.
42:12
But just as importantly, in a patient with a
42:15
suspected colon cancer, is to determine what the
42:19
status of their remainder, remainder of the colon is.
42:21
Because if there are other masses or polyps
42:24
elsewhere in the colon, they want to be
42:26
able to deal with it at the time of surgery.
42:29
Um.
42:31
To be able to tell whether this patient is just
42:33
gonna get a partial colectomy or if they're gonna
42:35
need something more than just a partial colectomy.
42:37
Are there other lesions to worry
42:39
about in the remainder of the colon?
42:40
So this is where we can be particularly helpful to
42:44
complete the, um, screening of their remainder of the
42:47
colon, uh, in somebody that's, um, likely going to go
42:51
on to, uh, a partial colectomy at, of some sort, uh,
42:56
to get the status of the rest of the colon, to find
42:58
if there are any, uh, synchronous lesions elsewhere
43:00
in the colon, in the non-visualized part of the colon.
43:03
And in this case here, the first finding
43:04
you can see just upstream from the
43:07
sigmoid mass here is a submerged polyp.
43:10
Here you're not seeing it on the 3D views
43:12
because it's submerged within contrast.
43:15
But you can see on the 2D images here, that
43:17
similar appearance of a pedunculated polyp on a
43:20
stalk arising from the proximal sigmoid colon.
43:24
Actually, the stalk is on this side
43:25
here, and then it's falling dependently.
43:30
Into the, uh, the pool of contrast
43:31
on this particular prone image.
43:33
You can take a quick look at the supine image
43:35
in that same location to see, um, how well
43:39
the sigmoid mass, the stricture, uh, opens up.
43:44
And you can see it.
43:45
It's pretty fixed and, uh, narrowed in this location.
43:48
And on the supine images, you can see that polyp
43:52
is obeying the force of gravity and it's kind of,
43:55
uh, lying dependently on the, um, the, uh, the
43:58
supine side of that, of that proximal sigmoid colon.
44:01
And we've got a chance to be able to
44:04
see it on the 3D view here as well.
44:06
So on the 3D image, it kind of looks like that lipoma
44:10
I showed you on the other case, uh, in terms of the,
44:13
uh, shape of it, uh, the, uh, the polyp on the stalk.
44:16
But in this case, it is not fat attenuation,
44:19
it's soft tissue attenuation,
44:23
confirmed on the soft tissue windows here.
44:26
Remember, contrast coating is okay as long
44:29
as there's not contrast or bubbles of gas
44:31
within it to tell you that you're dealing
44:33
with a stool ball rather than a polyp.
44:36
Um, I think there was one other
44:38
finding in this particular case,
44:46
and it was actually in the right colon here,
44:48
so you can see there was a, a more proximal
44:52
lesion in the, in the ascending colon here.
44:54
This is located, I think it was, it
44:58
was located above the ileocecal valve.
45:00
So that would place this in
45:01
the, uh, in the ascending colon.
45:04
You can see it here on the coronal recons here again
45:07
with a little bit of a contrast coating around it.
45:10
Another pedunculated-looking
45:13
polyp with, on, on a haustral fold,
45:17
superior to the ileocecal valve in the
45:19
right colon at the time of resection.
45:22
Uh, this was a colon cancer.
45:26
And both those polyps were, were
45:27
confirmed to be tubular adenomas.
45:30
Okay, for our next case, I'm gonna show
45:32
you a, a case where they already knew that
45:34
there was a cancer, uh, in this patient.
45:37
You can see here in the descending colon and
45:42
on the colon map, I'll show you the image
45:44
right here where the, um, the purple arrow is.
45:47
You can see there's an area of
45:48
luminal narrowing on the coronal NPR.
45:51
You can see that there's already a stent
45:52
placed through this, this colonic mass.
45:55
So we know that there is a, a mass here in the colon.
45:58
They had to put a stent in to decompress
46:00
the, the, um, the colon because it was an
46:02
obstructing mass at the time of presentation.
46:05
And for one reason or other, they couldn't get the
46:08
scope all around to the, uh, to the remainder of the
46:10
colon to see if there were any synchronous lesions.
46:13
So this was our opportunity to complete
46:15
the, um, the, the workup looking for
46:19
synchronous lesions in the colon.
46:20
Similar history to the prior one.
46:22
Except in this case I get to show you a, a stent and
46:26
on the fillet views you can sort of see the, the mesh
46:28
of the stent here on the 3D, um, fillet view here.
46:33
And then we can also fly
46:35
through the stent on 3D views.
46:38
So you can see the, the mesh here again.
46:42
And in this case we're able to get through the
46:44
stent and look at the remainder of the colon.
46:50
And I believe there were findings in the
46:52
remainder of the colon in this particular case.
46:54
One thing to note is with the appearance of
46:57
motion artifact on, uh, CT colonography, sometimes
47:00
you'll see these little, uh, jagged edges.
47:03
Uh, and if you look on the coronal images
47:05
in particular, you can see they correlate,
47:08
they're in the plane of the axial, uh, slices.
47:12
And you can see there's motion artifact in this
47:14
particular scan here, and that's what the motion
47:16
artifact ends up looking like on the 3D fly-throughs.
47:19
These little kind of straight
47:21
cuts through the, uh, the lumen and it's
47:24
important to just realize that that's
47:25
artifactual related to, um, respiratory motion.
47:28
Usually
47:31
the, uh, in the proximal colon,
47:35
there are other findings here.
47:40
Uh, get to the cecum.
47:42
I think that's where the main mass
47:43
was, as well as ascending colon.
47:48
So here we're flying through the transverse
47:49
colon and you, again, you can use your, your
47:53
colon map here to, to show you where you are.
47:55
There's a very, very tortuous
47:58
transverse colon in this case.
48:01
And again, appearance of motion artifact here,
48:07
as fluid level.
48:10
And here we are in the ascending colon.
48:12
We can see some, uh, other abnormal findings here.
48:15
There's definitely a thickened
48:16
SSL fold here with a mass on it.
48:21
And, uh, there are also other findings here,
48:25
which we can look at on the 2D images to
48:27
see whether these represent real polyps.
48:31
And there's, there's multiple of these,
48:32
so that, that probably is a real polyp,
48:35
although it may not meet our size criteria.
48:38
One way I, the only time I ever mention
48:43
polyps that are five millimeters or smaller
48:44
in size is if I know that somebody's going
48:46
to be going on to colonoscopy or surgery.
48:50
Um, and, um, and that area is going
48:53
to be seen, going to be looked at.
48:55
If the five millimeter polyp is the
48:57
only finding, then, uh, gen, generally
49:00
it doesn't meet our size criteria to be
49:01
specific enough by CTC to call it a polyp.
49:05
And those polyps, even if they're
49:06
below five millimeters, the so-called,
49:09
uh, diminutive size category.
49:11
Uh, they will get picked up if you follow
49:14
a regular, um, screening interval.
49:17
So usually for CT colonography, the recommendation's
49:19
been every five years to get a CTC. For colonoscopies,
49:23
it's every 10 years, but usually you'll pick up
49:25
a, a tiny polyp if it grows in that interval.
49:29
Uh, it's important to note that, uh, uh, polyps,
49:32
abnormal polyps are a waxing and waning phenomenon.
49:35
Clearly not all polyps become cancer.
49:37
Only a tiny subset do.
49:39
Uh, some of them will actually stay stable
49:41
or even, uh, get smaller or completely
49:43
disappear between, um, follow-up studies.
49:46
So, so some polyps can be safely watched.
49:50
Many of them can be.
49:51
The smaller they are, the more
49:52
safe they are to, to watch.
49:54
But in this case, we have a synchronous
49:56
mass in the ascending colon.
49:59
On the 2D images, you can confirm that
50:01
it's soft tissue attenuation here.
50:05
A lot of it is, is mostly soft tissue.
50:07
There's some contrast outlining
50:09
the submerged portions here.
50:11
The 2D images, you can see how grainy our images are
50:14
here because we're using a very low radiation dose
50:16
study analogous to lung cancer screening, right?
50:20
And lung nodule screening.
50:24
So in this case, this is important to note that
50:26
there were, um, both polyps and masses seen in the
50:30
right colon, um, much more, uh, proximal to the known
50:36
annular constricting mass in the descending colon.
50:39
And we were able to get this patient
50:41
set up for, uh, a subtotal colectomy
50:44
rather than just a left hemicolectomy.
50:46
So this is very important for,
50:48
um, for the surgical planning.
50:51
Uh, other things that I should point out here,
50:53
the low dose images, um, they can look a little
50:56
grainy because you don't need much radiation
50:58
to render a, a polyp in a gas-filled loop of
51:01
bowel, just like you don't need much radiation
51:04
to, to render a pulmonary nodule in the lung.
51:08
Uh, we aim with our radiation doses
51:10
to be lower than that of a barium enema.
51:13
So even with both supine and prone images
51:15
combined together, usually our radiation dose
51:17
ends up being less than five millisieverts.
51:20
Sometimes, um, even two or three millisieverts.
51:23
And I've seen some groups get it to even closer,
51:26
close to one millisievert depending on, uh, what kind
51:28
of, um, iterative reconstruction or deep learning
51:32
image reconstruction, uh, algorithms you use to,
51:35
to aggressively get that, uh, radiation dose down.
51:39
Um, when you are reading extra colonic findings,
51:43
sometimes the image noise can really get in the way.
51:45
Um, but, uh, one thing that you can do to,
51:49
to reduce the, uh, that appearance is you
51:51
can, you can read with a, a thicker cut.
51:54
So you, instead of looking at the thin cuts
51:56
here, the 1.25 millimeter cuts, you can
52:03
set the slice thickness a little bit thicker.
52:07
That will, that will reduce
52:08
your image noise quite a bit.
52:12
And then this way you can look for any adjacent
52:15
adenopathy next to these masses as well as,
52:18
uh, any incidental liver mets that you might be
52:20
able to pick up on a, um, non-contrast study.
52:24
And then you can get a sneak
52:26
peek at the lung bases as well.
52:28
So you can do some of the, um, M staging, although
52:33
this is not a, uh, contrast-enhanced study.
52:35
One other thing I would probably bring
52:37
up here in this case, the one thing that
52:39
could have made this study even better.
52:41
Than it was and even more helpful than this
52:43
was, is performing it with IV contrast.
52:46
So if you know that the reason the patient is
52:49
coming to you is for a known obstructing colon
52:52
cancer and it hasn't been fully staged yet with
52:55
a, um, CT abdomen, pelvis, or CT chest, abdomen,
52:58
pelvis, you can combine the staging CT with IV
53:03
contrast with the CT colonography at the same time.
53:05
So what we would usually do then is what we would,
53:08
we would inflate the colon and probably scan
53:11
a non-contrast in the prone position and then
53:13
flip the patient's supine and set them up with
53:16
a higher radiation dose, uh, routine contrast
53:19
enhanced CT with the colon still distended.
53:23
And then we would scan through the, uh, the
53:24
relevant body parts with the IV contrast onboard
53:27
with the usual routine, uh, contrast timing
53:30
and be able to stage all the solid organs,
53:32
uh, at the same time as doing the, um, the CT
53:35
colonography to look at the rest of the colon.
53:39
So keep in mind that that is an option, but
53:41
that you don't want to use low radiation dose
53:43
for the IV contrast portion of that study.
53:46
Thank you for sharing your lecture today, Dr. Chang.
53:48
At this time, we'll open the floor for any
53:51
questions from our audience and you can submit
53:54
those questions through the Q and A feature.
53:56
Dr. Chang, we have quite a few in that
53:58
Q and A box, and I can kick us off. When
54:01
the colon isn't perfectly distended,
54:03
how do you differentiate a fold and flat
54:05
polyp mass if it's both sides of the bowel?
54:07
That looks bunched up also.
54:10
What are your tips for the assessment of flat polyps?
54:14
Yeah, those are excellent questions.
54:16
So, ob obviously the, the better distended
54:18
the colon is, the, uh, better quality the,
54:21
the read you're gonna be able to impart.
54:22
So the, the first tip there is to try to,
54:25
to, to distend the colon as best you can.
54:27
If it's not fully distended, if a specific
54:30
segment is not fully distended on the two
54:32
initial views you get, then you can get, though
54:35
I would recommend a, a third scan in maybe a
54:38
different position such as the right lateral
54:39
decubitus position to try to give that segment,
54:42
uh, one more chance at, uh, fully distending,
54:44
making sure that the CO₂ distension is running
54:47
the entire time to try to open that up.
54:49
But we all will encounter, uh, times where there are
54:52
certain parts of the colon that don't fully distend.
54:55
And the way to determine whether you can clear
54:58
that segment or not when it's not fully distended,
55:02
is to look at the architecture of the haustral folds.
55:04
So I still look at whether the folds are in the,
55:08
in the usual locations, whether the, the, uh, the,
55:11
the arcades of the haustral folds are still preserved.
55:13
'Cause in most cases, even when the colon is not
55:16
fully distended, or in cases where you have, uh,
55:19
patients that have chronic diverticulosis, for
55:21
example, and myosis coli with the, um, the muscular
55:24
hypertrophy or the muscular thickening, uh,
55:26
associated with that, you still have the preserved,
55:29
uh, haustral architecture of the colon in those cases.
55:31
So, so usually, uh,
55:33
we look at the, the shape of the folds and
55:35
determine whether there's any, anything that
55:37
looks a little more irregular or, or more
55:39
mass-like or polyp-like to differentiate that
55:41
in the, in the setting of under-distension.
55:44
Uh, the flat polyp question is
55:45
kind of a separate question.
55:47
Usually flat polyps are more often
55:49
seen in the right colon than the left.
55:50
Uh, and in those cases we, we can see the flat
55:53
polyps, the flat lesions if you know what to look for.
55:56
So usually there are, there is some soft
55:59
tissue component associated with a flat lesion.
56:02
Uh, for the most part, most of them tend to
56:04
be a little raised from the adjacent mucosa.
56:06
So you have a little bit of a plateau or a mesa, uh,
56:09
in comparison to the remainder of the, of the bowel.
56:13
But, um, but yeah, you do need some
56:15
sufficient, sufficient distension to
56:16
be able to appreciate that appearance.
56:18
In addition, if you use contrast tagging, uh, either
56:22
barium or iodine, uh, or both, uh, many of these flat
56:26
lesions will, will have contrast adherence to it.
56:29
So it's important to note that when you have a kind
56:32
of a plaque-like look of contrast adhered to the
56:35
wall of the colon that's not falling dependently
56:38
with, uh, changes in the patient position, to take
56:41
a look at the wall undermining the, the contrast
56:45
area and not to just, uh, automatically dis, dis—
56:49
uh, discount it as, uh, adherent, uh, contrast.
56:52
Because oftentimes if you can demonstrate any
56:54
kind of a wall thickening underneath the tagged,
56:58
um, area, uh, oftentimes you'll—that that's one
57:01
of the best ways to, to pick up a flat lesion.
57:04
And I think that answers that question.
57:07
Yeah.
57:07
And there's a couple questions, um, that
57:09
ask, what's your procedure for CTC prep?
57:13
Okay, so that's a good question.
57:15
Uh, that was covered in, uh, Judy's, um, talk, uh,
57:18
the didactic lecture portion of the CT colonography.
57:22
But for that, there's a bunch of
57:23
different bowel preps you can use.
57:24
I, I'm not particularly, uh, uh, married to one
57:28
particular prep or the other, although the one
57:30
that I tend to use most often is magnesium citrate.
57:33
So you can use anywhere between one
57:35
and three bottles of magnesium citrate.
57:37
I usually, I use two bottles of
57:38
magnesium citrate the night before.
57:40
These are 10-ounce bottles.
57:42
Kind of separate them out.
57:43
Start like at five o'clock and eight o'clock,
57:45
for example, or even earlier if you want.
57:48
Uh, in addition, it's important to be, uh—
57:50
To, to have a clearly good
57:51
diet the day before as well.
57:53
Um, and then you can use an adjunct, uh, like,
57:56
um, like Culex to, to help with the bowel prep.
58:00
But there are other bowel preps that
58:01
you can use—MiraLAX, HalfLytely.
58:03
There's, there's a whole bunch of different,
58:05
uh, polyethylene glycol-based preps as well.
58:07
Some, uh, some newer, uh, preps like Plenvu as well.
58:11
So any bowel prep that works
58:13
should be, should be fine.
58:14
I know there's one question that asks
58:15
about, um, what to do in patients that have—
58:19
That have had a history of difficulty with bowel
58:21
preparation, especially, for example, they're
58:23
presenting after an incomplete colonoscopy
58:25
because of too much or a poorly prepped colon.
58:30
And in those particular cases, it's probably important
58:32
to change up that bowel prep, try something else, or,
58:36
or in terms of magnesium citrate, you can increase the
58:38
volume, uh, add an additional bottle, for example, find
58:41
a prep that works for that patient, uh, because it's
58:44
just as important to have a, a properly prepped colon
58:47
for CT colonography as it is for optical colonoscopy.
58:52
But the question: can stool or fecal
58:54
residue have soft tissue density?
58:56
And if yes, any tips to differentiate stool
58:58
from polyp besides air in the suspected focus?
59:02
I mean, theoretically, stool
59:03
could have any attenuation in it.
59:05
Uh, what part was particularly helpful, especially
59:08
when you're using contrast tagging, is if the contrast
59:10
can tag the interior of a, of a stool ball, that
59:14
definitely, uh, helps you differentiate it from a polyp.
59:16
Uh, and more often than not, you'll have some bubbles
59:20
of gas within some of these, uh, stool balls as well.
59:22
But theoretically, you know, the—if the, so—
59:25
if the stool, uh, poop ball, uh, theoretically
59:31
could be soft tissue attenuation, so there,
59:34
there can be some, uh, a few false positives.
59:37
But, but generally speaking, most stool balls are,
59:39
are pretty well differentiated from, from, uh—
59:43
from true polyps in that, uh, a true polyp tends
59:46
to be homogeneous and soft tissue attenuation and
59:48
be shaped differently from the, uh, haustral folds.
59:51
Dr. Chang, how much time do you
59:53
use approximately for one reading?
59:57
So I cover this during the, uh, the, the video—
60:00
usually in—when, when you have your learning curve
60:05
under you and you, if you figured out the interface
60:07
and you're very familiar with the 3D software
60:09
package that you're using, you could probably do
60:11
these—usually, even for me, about 10 to 15 minutes.
60:14
Uh, in general, depending on the complexity of the
60:16
case. Uh, if it's a negative, it definitely on the
60:19
shorter side—5 to 10 minutes even sometimes.
60:21
Uh, but you know, there, there are problem
60:23
cases where there's a lot of tortuosity,
60:26
under distension, uh, poor bowel prep.
60:29
In those cases, those can certainly
60:30
take longer, uh, on the order of 20 minutes.
60:33
But usually I would say I try to aim for 10
60:35
to 15 minutes, but it's gonna take longer.
60:37
In the beginning, I would probably
60:39
budget at least a half hour for a case.
60:41
When you're first starting out and getting
60:43
familiar with the, um, the 3D interface,
60:47
and in patients with an iodine allergy,
60:49
what oral contrast would you use?
60:52
So it's a good question.
60:53
Um, there's a couple different answers for that.
60:55
Uh, the practical answer, I guess, is that, uh,
60:59
it's very rare for, uh, an iodinated IV contrast
61:03
allergy to cross over, uh, to oral administration.
61:08
The, um, the risk of, uh, of, uh, contrast
61:11
reaction to orally administered iodinated
61:13
contrast is exceedingly low, very, very low.
61:16
So it's, it, the likelihood is very
61:18
low that you will have any kind of a
61:19
contrast reaction with just ingestion.
61:22
But, um, you know, some, there's certainly
61:24
some hospital policies that still would,
61:25
uh, would not recommend giving, um, the
61:28
iodinated oral contrast agents in that setting.
61:30
And, and, and instead you can give barium as well.
61:33
That's a good alternative.
61:35
Uh, and you could potentially do this without,
61:37
uh, oral tagging, although certainly oral
61:39
tagging makes the reads a lot easier than,
61:42
uh, than not using an oral tagging agent.
61:44
And that should—
61:46
That probably answers another question.
61:47
Somebody's asking why we were using a positive
61:49
oral contrast for CT colonography, and that's
61:52
in particular to be able to see through any
61:54
residual fluid that may still be in the colon.
61:57
So, you know, you don't, we, we rarely have a perfect
62:00
bowel prep where there's no fluid left in the colon.
62:03
The, the difference between a virtual colonoscopy
62:06
or CT colonography and optical colonoscopies
62:08
is that we can't suck out the fluid through
62:10
the endoscope at the time of the procedure.
62:12
So you have to deal with any fluid
62:13
that is still present in the colon.
62:16
And the best way to do that is to, to tag that
62:18
fluid hyperdense so that any submerged polyps
62:21
that are hiding beneath the fluid are visible,
62:24
uh, even when it's submerged under the fluid.
62:27
And that gives us a chance to look at the full
62:28
circumference, uh, and the full volume of the, of
62:31
the colon on either, uh, supine or prone image or
62:35
whatever, um, uh, position you have the patient in.
62:37
So it, it improves our, our sensitivity for polyps
62:41
and our confidence in, uh, calling the polyp,
62:43
especially when you can see it in both positions.
62:45
Despite the, uh, submerged, uh, location.
62:50
Software options, can you comment on, on that?
62:54
So, I've used a bunch of different,
62:56
uh, 3D software packages.
62:57
I would say the best one is the
62:58
one you're most comfortable using.
63:00
Uh, I don't think I've seen any specific packages
63:03
that are not appropriate for, for colonography.
63:06
I've used TeraRecon, I've
63:08
used Philips IntelliSpace.
63:09
I've used GE Advantage Workstation.
63:12
Um, others have used, uh, older
63:14
packages as well that they prefer.
63:15
I mean, I, I would just say whichever one you
63:17
feel most comfortable using, uh, uh, is, is the
63:21
one that's gonna be sufficient for reading
63:22
CT colonography.
63:24
I'm not going to, uh, uh, pick a, a winner here.
63:29
Okay.
63:30
Why can't we go inside distended
63:31
small bowel loops like colon?
63:34
You can, there's no reason why you can't.
63:36
Uh, so oftentimes if you have
63:38
an incompetent ileocecal valve,
63:40
you'll see CO₂, carbon dioxide, getting
63:42
into the distal small bowel as well.
63:45
And oftentimes you can fly
63:46
through that small bowel too.
63:47
But, uh, uh, for the most part, you know, you
63:50
don't know what the, um, the, the competence
63:53
of the ileocecal valve is going to be.
63:54
So our goal in, uh, colonic distension for CT
63:58
colonography is not so much to look at small
64:00
bowel as much as colon, but certainly if you
64:01
see a, a finding in small bowel and you're
64:04
pretty confident that it's real, uh, it's
64:07
definitely something that you can call on a
64:09
CT colonography—at least I have in the past.
64:13
Finally, for our last question, do you perform same
64:15
day CTC after a failed conventional colonoscopy?
64:18
Also, do you perform stoma CTC?
64:23
So the answer to the first question is yes.
64:24
In fact, that's the majority of
64:26
my current, uh, referral base.
64:28
Um, because that's the easiest time
64:30
you can sell CT colonography, right?
64:32
Uh.
64:34
Especially if you have a, a, a gastroenterology
64:37
group that might be skeptical of the role
64:39
of, uh, CT colonography, especially how
64:41
it impact—how it may potentially impact
64:43
their, uh, optical colonoscopy, um, volume.
64:47
They're going, they're going to encounter cases
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where they can't complete the colonoscopy, where
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they can't, uh, get into the, uh, the proximal colon.
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And in those cases, you're actually helping
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them out by offering them a same-day, uh,
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alternative to complete the screening,
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uh, when they can't get the scope passed.
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So, um, oftentimes your first bunch of cases that
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you're going to be referred for CT colonography
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are gonna be your incomplete colonoscopy cases.
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And in that—in that setting—their bowel's
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already prepped, so you don't have to re-prep the bowel.
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Uh, the, the colonoscopy prep is sufficient.
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Is—is more than sufficient for CT colonography,
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although they may have more fluid than we tend to
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have with some of our drier or lower-volume, uh,
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bowel prep, uh, regimens that I've been recommending.
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But even in that case—
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You know, if you give something like,
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um, uh, Gastrografin, it'll get into the
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colon pretty quickly, and I would say most
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of the colon gets tagged within two hours.
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So if you give oral contrast to these patients
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after the colonoscopy and give them about two
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hours before they come down for the CT scan, uh,
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most of the right colon and especially the colon—
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the, the, the proximal colon that's not visualized
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at the time of colonoscopy—will have sufficient
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contrast material in it to, uh, to evaluate.
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So even a same-day colon CT—a same-day CTC—
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does not, uh, preclude bowel, uh, fluid tagging.
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You can do, uh, you can insufflate through a
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stoma, um, as long as you can, uh, get a, uh, uh,
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enough of a seal for the CO₂ to inflate the colon.
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So in that case, two different ways of doing it: you
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can—you can inflate the balloon tip of the catheter
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and either push it up against the stoma or have the
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patient hold it against the stoma, or gently put it
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inside the stoma and gently inflate the balloon.
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Um, uh, as long as it's sufficient to—to create
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an airtight seal for the carbon dioxide.
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But it is doable.
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