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Alright, next case is a 58-year-old patient
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and we know they have a stent.
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So they have known coronary disease that's been treated.
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Interestingly, a few months before this test, uh,
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they underwent a stress echo
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and it just showed a mild inter apical wall motion under
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Maori, an apical would be LED territory,
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and that's where the stent is.
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We do acquire a non-con scan on these, by the way.
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Uh, we don't obviously interpret a calcium score
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because it's irrelevant,
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and then it would give you a high number
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because you're measuring metal.
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Um, and there's no need to measure pretest risk.
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You know, it's definite risk.
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Uh, I still like the non-con
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because you're gonna see these spots
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of calcium you might miss
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and that might help you sort something out.
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Um, the other thing that I find a non-con calcium score, uh,
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acquisition, good for on stents is if there's fractures.
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So it's really easy to spot. Um, so we always do it.
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It's a minimal radiation expense,
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but it's a sometimes beneficial.
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Um, I will go right to the CTA, just knowing
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that it's good quality.
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RCA looks fine. Let's show the, uh, left main.
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There is some plaque in this left main
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and, uh, left main's always
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warrant a little bit of extra attention.
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Um, but I just wanted to show
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and highlight that you can see the plaque along the superior
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wall of the, uh, left main here.
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So coming off the aortic root,
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but, um, plaque is hard to distinguish from epicardial fat.
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I can see the difference here.
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Uh, but there's a epicardial fat there. This is air density.
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Um, but there is a distinguishing signature density.
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Uh, Tom sometimes takes a little care to figure that out.
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So we know there's plaque but not stenosis in the left main.
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And, uh, let's look at that stent.
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And, um, this is a great look at a stent.
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The technology only gets better.
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Uh, but this is a, just a standard protocol.
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We add a sharp kernel to every CT we, um, create
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and we, uh, find that to be useful
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for reducing calcium blooming and stent blooming.
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Um, second teaching point is,
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and we talked about this in the lecture, uh,
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we see contrast in the native vessel before the stent.
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The stent itself has maybe a millimeter
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before it becomes occluded.
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And by the way, a, a tiny trickle
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of flow in there could certainly be possible.
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It's hard to say you get some artifact within it,
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so it's difficult to be very accurate.
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Um, but when we go beyond the stent, it's important to note
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to the team that there is some atherosclerosis slash
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occlusion beyond the stented segment
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and into the native distal segment.
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Uh, and that matters because that's new disease
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or disease that wasn't treated
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and perhaps that's why the stent went down.
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And second point is you can see denser contrast here,
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less dense contrast here.
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This is probably retrograde flow.
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Um, there's more than likely ample collaterals from either
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left to left, left to right,
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transseptal, uh, all kinds of ways.
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Um, but the CT won't depict that.
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That'll show that you got some contrast on
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the other side of the stent.
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Um, but if there's ever a, um,
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clear cut case, it's this one.
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If you can't see in the stent, you can say that
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and just interpret everything else
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and just be very careful
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to say it's a non invaluable stent. In
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This this case, I can evaluate the stent.
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So I'm gonna give it a CAD RADS five for occlusion.
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If it's subtotal occlusion, I'll be okay with that.
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It's going to be a slash s for stent.
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And I'm gonna note that I see a little bit of disease
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beyond the stent in the native LAD
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and I really don't see anything else.
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I just see some left main plaque.
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In fact, that left main plaque is humbling
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because that is noncalcified plaque.
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You saw that the calcium score was negative.
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So any test other than a CT angiogram is gonna miss that.
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So it's certainly already gonna be maximum medical
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therapy, uh, for this extent.
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The thing is, he, he is getting symptoms.
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There's an abnormality of profusion, um, by the stress echo.
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I'm not gonna show you that 'cause it's a cumbersome process
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to look at a stress echo.
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Um, you're looking at wall motion
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and the changes in wall motion.
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But I just wanted to look at the myocardium here on the CTA
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and I'm, this is the, the coronary phase.
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One other way to look at the myocardium is
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to thicken up your slices.
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So, um, a couple of sites, including ours,
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have done some studies on what's the best, uh, way
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to look at myocardium with CT turns out to be, in my opinion
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and my paper, uh,
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eight millimeter thick multiplanar reformat
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tight window width level.
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Um, some vendors do allow you to do color mapping
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and fancy things, but you're just looking
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for relative hypo enhancement.
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Uh, the other thing you can look at on the ischemic cascade
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as we talked about, was looking for wall motion.
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So here I'm in the short axis and I've got a two chamber
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and a pseudo four chamber.
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I can even turn it into a true four chamber
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by just bisecting the acute margin of the right ventricle.
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Um, but I'm most curious about this area here.
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So I'm gonna give you an, uh, three chamber view.
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So I'm gonna go up to that, uh, basal slice bisect,
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the LVOT, and then I'm going to animate this for you.
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So, um, short axis here.
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So the stress echo showed intra septal down by the apex.
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I'll read that for you. Mild inter
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apical wall motion abnormalities.
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So, um, we're in the mid segment here
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and there's the apical a little noisy,
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but I I could say that there's maybe some hypokinesis.
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Let's look on the three chamber.
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Um, it does not thicken as much.
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It's a little thinner and it doesn't fully thicken.
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So I think I'll agree with the stress echo.
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Um, oh, that's actually a nice view there. By the way.
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This is noisy, but it's enough, um,
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perhaps less noisy than some of the nuclear scans we see.
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So let's move on. Now, can't send this one for, uh,
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C-T-F-F-R because it's not the time of this recording.
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There's no FD approval for C-T-F-F-R in stented patients,
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um, by the vendor that our hospital uses.
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Uh, looks like the next test done
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was an FDG PET ct.
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That test showed a large size, moderate severity mid
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to distal anterior wall and apical ischemia.
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So reversible perfusion, beautiful
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because that's exactly where the territory
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of the LI stent would be and where the echo, uh, segments.
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So we're all speaking the same language.
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The target meets the vessel.
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So a good next step would be to go onto an
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Invasive coronary angiogram.
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Okay, so here we are
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with the catheterization on this patient.
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So in summary, we had a CT showing occlusion.
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There might've been a trickle,
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but we, we called it subtotal total occlusion.
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Uh, and gave it a cataract five
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'cause it looked like the disease went beyond the stent.
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We got a nuclear test, which confirmed ischemia in
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that territory and corroborated the echo
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and the CT findings of wall motion abnormality.
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And here you have this really tight stenosis,
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but there's a nice example
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where the superior spatial resolution
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of an invasive angiogram shows
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that there's a little trickle of flow there.
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So the right things happen that the stent was identified
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and treated before it, we lost the vessel.
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Uh, that trickle of flow still could have retrograde
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or just slower flow beyond it.
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Um, but the dynamic information
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that a cath has is complimentary and in this case, superior.
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So, um, the nice thing when you have a stenosis like this,
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you're able to wire it quickly
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'cause you have to get a wire, um, across that lesion.
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Just like we talked about with chronic occlusions.
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It's a little harder to, to cannulate those.
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So that makes a nice, um, roadmap
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and highway for your, your stenting procedure.
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And let's see what the final result is.
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I'm glossing through a lot of cath.
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These are a lot of work, but beautiful result here.
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So, um, successful stenting, uh,
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or re stenting of the vessel.
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Uh, and again, a lot of additive information from the CTA in
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that there was native disease not treated beyond the vessel.
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So that's a, uh, a known reason for, uh, stent failure.
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In fact, new guidelines recommend that when
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of stent is placed and intravascular ultrasound is performed
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to make sure they don't miss disease.
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Uh, because then progression is obviously gonna happen in
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the non-treated segment.
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So, in summary, a great case of CTA sensitivity,
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maybe some complimentary role of profusion
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and, and wall motion imaging.
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And then, uh, catheter angiograms, superior
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spatial resolution.