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Okay, next we're going to talk about
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cardiac MRI protocols in the management
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of non-ischemic cardiomyopathy.
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First, some technical notes.
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One question that comes up all the
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time is whether one should use
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1.5 Tesla or 3 Tesla MRI for imaging of the heart.
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And it turns out, contrary to what one might think,
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that the 1.5 Tesla is generally preferable
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for cardiac MRI.
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And this is actually really handy for a lot of
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practices because, as we know, 3T MRI often gets
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really busy with neuro and musculoskeletal
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indications.
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And so, having some studies that
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can actually be performed on the
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1.5 Tesla can be really helpful for some practices.
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Certainly, it's very helpful in our practice.
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So generally, the preferred and
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kind of workhorse is the 1.5 Tesla.
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Why would one ever want to use the 3 Tesla?
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Well, in some situations, if you're really interested
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in doing perfusion images, so those will be the
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people who want to do a lot of stress cardiac MRI.
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We're not going to talk about that today.
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We'll talk about it in different courses, but in
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general, if you're doing a lot of perfusion imaging
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for stress MRI, 3 Tesla can be a little bit better.
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If you're performing 3D late gadolinium
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enhancement, which is a very sort of
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specialized, almost research-type application,
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but if you're in a place where they are really
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interested in very, very highly detailed late
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gadolinium enhancement images—and I can think
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of maybe perhaps if you're in a practice that
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does a lot of electrophysiology and they want
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mapping of scar prior to any ablation procedures—
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then maybe 3 Tesla might be helpful.
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And then finally, 4D flow.
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4D flow applications really are probably, in my mind,
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the best in congenital heart disease, which again,
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we won't be talking about today, but if you're
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really interested in 4D flow and you're doing a
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lot of congenital heart disease, then perhaps
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3 Tesla would have advantages for your practice.
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What about coils?
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Well, ideally, you want as many coils as you
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can get, but certainly you want at least
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an eight-element or greater thoracic coil.
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We use a 32-channel coil as our
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workhorse, and that tends to work great.
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Just the most amount of signal you can get.
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Obviously, saves some time and allows
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you to make higher resolution images.
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You want to have a power injector.
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Usually, we inject at roughly 5 mL
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per second for any perfusion images that we're doing.
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So certainly, a power injector
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becomes helpful in that situation.
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If you're not doing perfusion, then maybe you
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can get away without a power injector, and you
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can even just do a hand injection because for
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late gadolinium enhancement, we're generally
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waiting about 10 minutes after the injection.
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So, you know, it doesn't really matter how
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fast that contrast gets into the patient.
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And then you do need some
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specialized software for cardiac MRI.
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In particular, you need some specialized post
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processing software for function and flow measurements.
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Generally, the PACS that you have is not going
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to have the tools necessary to do ejection
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fraction calculations, volume calculations,
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and so, I would say it's almost universal that you're
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going to need some sort of secondary software
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package to do that kind of post-processing.
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Okay, so let's talk a little bit about
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cardiac MRI protocols and what are kind of
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the key elements to performing a cardiac MRI.
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We always start with an anatomic overview.
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We get an axial steady-state free precession,
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bright blood image just to get the anatomy.
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This is helpful looking for things like pleural
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effusions, adenopathy, possibly in somebody
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with sarcoidosis, pericardial effusion, you can
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look for any abnormalities in the upper abdomen,
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perhaps like cirrhosis that can, you know,
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be helpful for evaluating the patient overall.
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You could also add dark blood HASTE.
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We do that in some of our protocols, not all.
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The dark blood HASTE images we'll talk about later.
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They give you a little bit more anatomy.
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You can get them as sort of a T1
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weighted image, and they may be helpful,
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for instance, at looking at the aorta.
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We always include them in our MRA protocols
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to look for any aortic thickening in
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somebody with chest pain, for instance.
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But, it's kind of plus or minus whether
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or not you want to include it in your
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cardiac MRI, standard cardiac MRI protocol.
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We always include functional imaging.
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You have to have functional imaging,
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and this is done with Cine SSFP, steady-state
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free precession, bright blood images.
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The only situation where we might not use SSFP
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images would be if there are a lot of artifacts.
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In particular, if you're at a place where you're
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doing scans in patients with cardiac devices,
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those cardiac devices create a lot of artifact.
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In particular, they create abnormalities of the local
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magnetic field around the device, and that's going to
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create a lot of artifact, particularly on SSFP images.
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And so in those cases, you may want
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to use cine gradient echo images.
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These are kind of the older way to do cine gradient imaging.
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Turns out they have less artifact than the SSFP images,
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and so in that situation, you may use those
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in place of SSFP.
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The other situation where I've had to use
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it would be sometimes patients with, say,
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for instance, iron deposition in the liver.
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If you're evaluating for iron deposition
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in the heart, a lot of times those patients
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will have a lot of iron in the liver.
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That iron actually can sit really close
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to the undersurface of the heart and
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create a lot of artifact in some patients.
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And so in those cases, again, gradient
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echo may be a better choice.
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Okay.
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What else is part of the protocol?
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Well, certainly tissue characterization is important.
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In any of our non-ischemic cardiomyopathy evaluations,
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we want to include some dark blood
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T2 weighted images to look for edema, and we
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want to include late gadolinium enhancement
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images to look for the patterns of late
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gadolinium enhancement if it's present.
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And really of all the various types of acquisitions
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that you get in cardiac MRI for this particular
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indication, non-ischemic cardiomyopathy,
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the most important one is going to be this
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late gadolinium enhancement, far and away.
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So really that's the one that you
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want to put the most effort into.
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Other optional types of acquisitions.
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Flow, like I mentioned, so this is
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not particularly important in the
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setting of non-ischemic cardiomyopathy.
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The only situation where I could see it useful would
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be if you're not completely sure if it's a patient
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with severe valvular heart disease that might have
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the cardiomyopathy, and so you may want to do some
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flow measurements to try and quantify, say, for
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instance, aortic regurgitation or mitral regurgitation.
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But otherwise, I don't see flow
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playing a big role in these patients.
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So, the T2 star mapping can be really helpful
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in patients with sickle cell anemia, and then
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also in patients who have beta thalassemia.
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Um, those often have a lot of iron deposition as well.
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T2 mapping and T1 mapping are slightly newer
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applications.
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They have been getting a lot of attention in
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literature, and I would say that they're still
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kind of on the cusp of routine clinical use.
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Of the two, I think T2 mapping right now is probably
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a little bit more useful and ready for prime time.
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The T2 dark blood images that I mentioned, they tend to
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have frequent artifacts and are sometimes less reliable
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in people who can't hold their breath very well.
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The T2 mapping sequences can overcome some of those
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problems and give you a more uniform evaluation of T2.
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And this is helpful in looking for edema in patients
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who perhaps might have myocarditis as the sort of
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the number one application, or maybe sarcoidosis.
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T1 mapping is something that's gotten even
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more attention really in the research space
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than T2 mapping, but on an individual
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per patient basis, I don't think
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it's quite as useful for diagnosis.
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I think the numbers that you get for T1 mapping,
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you basically get an exact number of the T1 time
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of the myocardium, and the idea is that T1 times
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are abnormal in patients with a lot of fibrosis.
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The problem is that there's a lot of overlap between
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normal patients and patients with disease, so much
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so that the T1 mapping often doesn't really help you
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distinguish between patients who have a particular
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cardiomyopathy versus a patient who's normal.
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I would say the one exception to that...
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There are really two exceptions to that.
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First would be patients with amyloid.
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The T1 mapping is really, really
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abnormal in those patients.
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And so, in that case, it can be useful.
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And then the other is in the patients with the
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glycogen storage diseases, particularly Fabry's.
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They can have really abnormal T1 mapping as well.
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So in those cases, you may have enough
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distance between normal and abnormal
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values that you can use them for diagnosis.
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Perfusion is also optional.
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In our practice, we always get perfusion images.
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So you'll see when we go through the
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cases that we always have perfusion.
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Do we need to get it as a routine?
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Not really.
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Rest perfusion is not particularly helpful.
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Sometimes we'll see in patients who
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have a recent MI that there's areas of
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hypoperfusion on the rest perfusion.
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And then also in people who have really severe acute
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sarcoidosis, we can see some hypoperfusion at rest.
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But really, for nearly all other indications,
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we're not going to see any abnormalities.
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So it's, it's plus or minus whether you do it.
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We tend to do the perfusion, um, just
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because it doesn't really lose us any time.
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And it helps get our technologists used to just
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performing the perfusion so that if we ever do a stress
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MRI, they're very comfortable with that sequence.