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Now, what is the impact for imaging facilities?
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The primary, uh, impact is gonna be increased.
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MRI scan volume.
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So, uh, an MRI is required
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by label at baseline, and it should be recent.
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Um, the old label said within one year,
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but now the new label has been changed to say recent.
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I don't consider recent, uh, a one year, obviously,
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so probably within a couple of months.
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Um, in some institutions they're gonna sort of require it,
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but others, just, if you, you've got it within a couple
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of months, um, then you're good to go.
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Then an MRI is required prior to the fifth dose, prior
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to the seventh dose and prior to the 14th dose.
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These are all at the high dose, um, categories,
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which is 10 mgs per kg, um, administered
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by IV infusion every two weeks.
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So MRIs must be acquired prior to these.
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These are scheduled MRIs.
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The A UR guidelines also recommend, um, a, uh, an MRI prior
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to the 26 dose.
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That's at 52 weeks, so that's not on the lecan label,
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but it is, uh, the recommended schedule.
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So this is five MRIs here,
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and then plus additional MRIs, non-scheduled MRIs
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whenever the patient develops a new neurologic symptoms.
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So if you assume maybe the patient might have five headaches
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a year, you know, the neurologist is probably gonna order an
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MRI each time and probably on an urgent basis.
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So, you know, if you assume about 10 scans per year,
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roughly, um,
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and let's say there's 1500 treatment candidates in the
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United States, we're looking at 15,000 new MRIs a year, um,
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impacting imaging facilities in the US alone,
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uh, throughout our country.
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So this is a very big number.
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Imaging facilities really need to be prepared
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for the increased number of MRIs that they're going to see.
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Now, another impact for imaging, uh,
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facilities would be consistency, and that is consistency
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and protocol field strength, and ideally with vendor.
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Um, the protocol is very important.
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So the required sequences, uh, as recommended by the, um,
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the A SNR, uh,
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Alzheimer's ARIA Study group is A-G-R-E-A flare
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and A DWI, I can tell you at our institution,
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we're just gonna do a routine brain.
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Um, now some people may be doing an SWI as part
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of their routine brain, and some neurologists may always
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require an SWI, again, because of the increased sensitivity.
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If that's the case, please do A GRE in addition to that,
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because when you're doing therapeutic screening, you need
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to do the count off the GRE.
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So in your dictation, you would report the number
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of micro hemorrhages you see on both the GRE and the SWI.
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But just put a note in there that using the GRE
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for the ARIA grading, um,
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and then field strength, um, you know,
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ideally really should be done on a three T or 1.5 T.
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Um, and preferably maintain the same field
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strength between each visit.
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And then, you know, ideally if you can stick
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with the same vendor, that would be, uh, wonderful.
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But I know that that's not possible in a lot of cases.
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Uh, at our imaging enterprise, uh, we, you know,
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we are the largest outpatient freestanding IMA
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enterprise in the United States.
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We have 355 freestanding imaging centers that we read from.
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So we, we have a big diverse, uh, fleet of scanners,
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so we can't always maintain the same vendor.
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Now, the other impact for imaging facilities would be an
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educational initiative for a neuroradiologist, uh,
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for training for, uh, aria.
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We're gonna do ARIA training here in this webinar,
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but, you know, ALS imaging is a good website, uh,
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for additional information
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and educational, uh, initiatives are also, uh, ongoing
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through the A SNR and through RSNA
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and through, uh, other educational
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webinars and things like that.
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Now, another impact is quantitative volumetric imaging.
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We're already, um, at least in my area,
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my clinical practice, I, my referers order this, uh,
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for almost every dementia patient,
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but in other areas, it's not ordered as frequently.
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But this is a very useful, uh, AI tool.
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It can allow you to track the hippocampal volumes
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and it can help with automated ARIA screening report
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and is also was used in some of the trials.
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Um, the other implication
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for imaging facilities would be the beta amyloid
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confirmation, which is required prior to treatment.
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Um, this, it can be done through lp,
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which is covered right now,
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but, uh, again, uh, amyloid PET would be a preferable way
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for patients to be screened for a beta amyloid confirmation.
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And, you know, we're hoping to see that
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that will be covered in the near future.
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Um, and then productivity ad
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and also, uh, quest has a new, uh, blood test as well.
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These are both blood tests at this point.
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Um, uh, there's still some variability in
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the reliability there.
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And, uh, also no coverage as of yet for blood testing.
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Um, now, uh, let's talk about ARIA reporting.
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So Aria screening and follow-up can be reported manually.
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Um, the neuroradiologist are, again, uh, very important
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because it impacts the therapeutic decisions.
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Um, it's, uh, in terms of the interest level, uh, for Aria
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and Alzheimer's, it's very interesting
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'cause the As NR American Society
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of Neuroradiology has an a ARIA study group.
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Um, there's about a thousand
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neuroradiologist that come a year.
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There's actually 2,700 that are members of the AS NR,
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but about a thousand make it to the meeting every year.
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And, you know, they thought that there might be a small
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number who study they would sign up for the study group.
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Well, it turned out 800 neuroradiologist
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signed up for the study group.
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Um, and then we sent out a poll
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to all 2,700 neuroradiologists that are members of AS SNR
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and of the responding poll neuroradiologists.
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It turned out that 63%
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of them we're interested in using an automated proprietary,
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uh, computer audit detection, uh, screening software,
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AI software for RA detection, longitudinal follow-up
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and automated reporting.
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So we will talk about that and look at that.
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Now, automated RA reports are in active development right
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now, uh, from, uh, some of the major vendors
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and pending FDA approval.
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So this is kind of what it looks like.
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This automated segmentation for quantitative MRI, this is,
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uh, the white matter overlay, which
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Would you use for Aria e screening, uh,
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on the flare sequence.
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And the other input sequence would be GRE,
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where you'll see automated, uh, detection of the foci
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of micro hemorrhage.
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Um, so this is the GRE beforehand.
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You see these little, uh, foci of micro hemorrhage
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and they can be very small.
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And I'm, I'm not sure if you can appreciate this,
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but there's actually two right here.
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Um, and then there's a few more along
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here, one here and one here.
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And this is what it looks like
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after the automated detection is applied.
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Um, here's an REE case, automated detection, uh,
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through quantitative, uh, MRI, again, RAE
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and automated, uh, detection.
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Here's an RAE with SoCal fusion case that is color coded
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after it goes through the QMI software.
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This was originally, um, so again, uh, it's very useful for,
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uh, detection of, uh, RAE and RAH.
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Uh, there are different screening reports, uh,
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that can be, um, generated.
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This happens to be one from, uh, one company where it will,
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for aria e it will give you, uh, the, uh, the lesion burden
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and the count, uh, what's new, what's enlarging,
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what's shrinking over time for Aria E
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and for aria H, again, the, uh, count
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for Aria h the count is mandatory,
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so it's very important here.
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We'll do the same thing for superficial cirrhosis
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and compare dynamically since the prior study.
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So here's sort of a, uh, summary report here for REAE, um,
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lesion one, it's giving the, uh, diameter and size
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because this is what's required for the grading system.
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Um, so you get the diameter, uh, for, uh, all four
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of these lesions, and you get the
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change from the prior study.
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It tells you where it is, right frontal lobe.
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Um, and then it gives you a severity score for Aria E.
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And this is based on this criteria that we talked about
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before, um, for mild, moderate, and severe.
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Here's in our sample Aria H report, uh,
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that is in development,
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and again, counting the current micro hemorrhages, uh, uh,
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as well as the baseline.
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And you can get the change in the number.
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So baseline had one,
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and then there was nine new ones at the follow up.
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Uh, imaging will tell you where they are in the brain,
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and, um, and,
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and again, we'll give you a severity grading, uh,
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for both superficial cirrhosis and for micro hemorrhages.
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So having to be moderate, um, for super, uh,
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for micro hemorrhages and mild for superficial cirrhosis.
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According to this radiologic severity chart.
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This is another ARIA screening report from a different
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company.