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Hey everybody, it's Mark again.
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We're gonna talk today a little bit about reticular opacities
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as we continue on the whole curriculum.
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Reticular opacities are, again, a form of
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something that we perceive from radiographs or CTs.
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And from that information, we try then to deduce
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what the pathology is and the potential etiology.
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So as you know, this is the morphology that we've
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been going through, and we'll be focusing on reticular
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opacities specifically in this session on septal lines.
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Now, what are reticular?
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Opacities?
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These are lines and lines that really they don't branch.
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And there are different forms of
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reticulation, which kind of means net-like.
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There's re that's sort of the so-called
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curly lines where they're perpendicular
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one to two centimeters from the pleura.
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So-called curly lines which radiate to the hilum.
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And then there's the other ones, which
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are the thick reticular opacities here,
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which we'll talk about in the next session.
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And then the curved reticular opacities
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that we'll talk about in the third session.
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So Interlobular Septation, what is it?
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This is usually what we refer to when we see
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reticulation with the so-called septal thickening.
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The Interlobular Septations are the sheetlike structures
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that form the girder system of the lung, and they
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contain, uh, veins and connective tissue and lymphatics.
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And this is, uh, from Dr.
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Ito's lab, uh, radiograph of the specimen.
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And you can see a beautiful secondary pulmonary lobe.
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This is the, uh, central lobular airways.
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The arteries and the veins are lying within these.
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Septations along with the lymphatics, and
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you can see how they go right up to the
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subpleural surface and then continue along.
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And then the so-called curly lines, or the interrelated
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sort of septal thickening tend to meander the.
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Towards the hilum.
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Again, they don't tend to branch, so when you
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see these thickened, they'll look like lines
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that are sort of extending out from the hilum.
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So these are the septal lines.
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Differential is very small.
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The hardest thing is seeing 'em, right?
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It's all about that perception, picking them up.
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But almost always when you start seeing the septal
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thickening, it's gonna be hydrostatic pulmonary
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edema, so-called congestive heart failure.
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But there are a couple of other things.
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One important one is lymphangitic spread of tumor,
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which is almost always gonna be adenocarcinoma.
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Pick the most common for the
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patient's age and sex or lymphoma.
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Some rare ones, early AVMs can give it 'cause it
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looks like hydrostatic edema and acute eosinophilic
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pneumonia, which Eric Milne used to call allergic edema.
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So extensive septal thickening.
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In this patient, you can see nicely these
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so-called Curly A. Don't bother calling 'em Curly.
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Curly was a name.
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Just say septal thickening.
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They're all the same.
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And then the septal thickening along here. Now—
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just as a note, we're often taught to
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look in the costophrenic angles, and—
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you might see the septal thickening
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there, but there's not a lot of lung there.
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But if you look in the lateral projection,
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in that retrosternal space—my God,
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you'll see all sorts of them there.
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If they're there, you'll see these little
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perpendicular—like a stepladder going up—and you
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can also see the ones that undulate back to the hilum.
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The other place I tend to look,
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oddly enough, is the apices.
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I tend to see them there also.
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Okay, so again, just kind of a representation.
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These are septal thickenings.
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There's associated lower lobe consolidation.
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This is characteristic of congestive
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heart failure or hydrostatic edema.
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Okay?
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On CT, this is what they look like, right?
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They often reflect these lymphatic thickenings.
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From whatever fluid or such.
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Remember, lymphatics kind of are a sump pump,
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and you can see there. And also, you'll tend to
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see subpleural, fissural thickening, maybe some
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effusion, and it's just thickening of these.
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Interlobular septations.
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Now, just quickly about lymphatics—
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the function is like a sump pump.
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It takes away particles and
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fluid, and it's usually very slow.
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The production and flow relate to the driving force
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of the pulmonary artery pressures, and since the
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pulmonary artery pressures are so low posteriorly
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in the upper lobes and the superior segment, we
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tend not to see very much of the septal thickening.
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The other thing is that the
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chest wall motion is theorized—
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theorized to also improve lymphatic flow—so we
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don't see much septal thickening in the upper
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lobes and posteriorly in the superior segment.
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This has a direct effect on
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manifestations of some chronic diseases like—
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cavitary tuberculosis, which you almost
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never see anteriorly but posteriorly.
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It's not because of high oxygen,
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which is commonly taught.
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A nice example—this is congestive heart failure.
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Remember, the septal thickening reflects the lymphatic
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drainage, and you can see in the lower lobes there's an
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awful lot of these septal lines, along with effusions.
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But as you go up, you notice that they're
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more anterior and not very many posterior.
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And this is also why, in the lateral
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projection, that retrosternal area is a good
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place to look for those septal thickening.
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And you can see 'em in the apices,
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anteriorly more than posteriorly.
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Okay, now here we've got two patients, and I'm
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showing you the lateral, and they both have septal
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thickening, but they're a little different.
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This one—um, if you don't notice it, it's okay—
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but over time, you'll start noticing, you know,
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there almost looks like there's some nodularity
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to this one.
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I don't see that here, but I see the nodularity there.
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When you see those little nodules in there, or
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when you think you see them, that should raise
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a red flag that you're probably dealing with
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something besides congestive heart failure. And the
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big one to consider is lymphangitic spread of tumor.
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You could consider sarcoid, but I'll get into
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that later in a perilymphatic nodularity talk.
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But sarcoid doesn't tend to give you as
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much septal thickening. But this is very
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characteristic for lymphangitic spread of tumor.
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You have your septal lines, and you have your
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perilymphatic nodularity that follows the
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lymphatics, kind of in a beaded appearance. How
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can you tell? Well, it's usually asymmetric,
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and it won't respond to diuretic therapy.
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Okay.
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Another patient.
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You have septal lines.
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You can see the septal lines there, but
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in addition, you almost wonder if there's
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a little nodularity along the fissure.
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If you don't see it, don't worry about it,
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but you should take a look at this and go,
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holy macro, that's all on the right side.
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That's not gonna be congestive heart failure.
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Probably not hantavirus. Probably not
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acute eosinophilic pneumonia.
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Oh, snap.
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I think this is lymphangitic spread of tumor.
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Another patient with septal thickening, and
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there's the lung cancer right there.
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There's this kind of beaded, undulating
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thickness and thinness—nodularity, unilateral.
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So the asymmetry and the perilymphatic nodularity
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should clue you in that this is going to most likely
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be the spread of tumor. Again, most likely adenocarcinoma
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or lymphoma—in this case, adenocarcinoma of the lung.
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So this is, uh, from Dr.
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Ito's lab again, and you can see how there are
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some areas that do look like smooth septal thickening.
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'Cause you can have smooth, but it, it,
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there'll be some areas of nodularity as well.
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37-year-old, increasing dyspnea over three weeks.
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Septal thickening.
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But it, it, it's asymmetric, right?
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It's here, and there's a little bit
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here, and that's kind of funny.
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And 37-year-olds with congestive heart failure?
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Well, you know, I'm also noticing that
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the, the mediastinum is too dense.
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The aortic pulmonary recess is convex.
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Oh, that suggests that
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there's, uh, adenopathy here.
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And you'll also note she's missing her left breast.
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So in this case, this is most characteristic for
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lymphangitic spread of tumor from metastatic breast cancer.
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Could it be sarcoid?
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Maybe, but probably not.
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You can see the hilar adenopathy really
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well on the lateral, the so-called donut
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sign, which I've talked about before.
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And again, when you look at the septum,
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you, you know, you can see it, and it's like,
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well, if it looks smooth, it looks smooth.
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But if you suspect, like here, there's
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some nodularity, it's okay to say, "Hey,
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you know, there may be some associated
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lymphatic nodularity."
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Now get a CT.
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Think, consider lymphangitic spread of tumor.
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All right.
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Another patient, 18-year-old,
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increasing dyspnea for one day.
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Well, she's got some septal thickening.
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She's got bilateral lower lobe ground-glass.
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You can see the septal thickening
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best in the lateral subpleural.
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Pleural thickening.
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All right.
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No effusions really that I'm seeing, but it's kind of
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funny for her to have congestive heart failure, right?
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Hydrostatic edema.
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They got a CT, and it's just
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widespread septal thickening.
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She did not respond to diuretics.
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That's a clue.
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Hydrostatic edema should respond
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to diuretics very quickly.
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She did not.
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Red flag.
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This is going to be something else.
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In this case,
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this was acute eosinophilic pneumonia,
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and she responded promptly to steroids.
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Remember, Melanie used to call this allergic edema?
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That was a pretty good title.
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That's a pretty good name for it, actually.
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And then another patient. You may not ever see this,
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but a patient with fever, you have septal thickening.
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It's a little asymmetric, some effusions.
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This turned out to be Avium.
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They soon went into ARDS.
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Diffuse alveolar damage over the next, uh, couple of days.
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So that's the summary of septal thickening.
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The hardest thing about it is perceiving it.
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So try looking in the lateral retrosternal region.
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If you have a lateral, that's
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usually the best place to pick it up.
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There's more lung, and again, lymphatics tend
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to occur mostly in the anterior lung, not
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the posterior, except in the lower lobes.
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It's a short differential.
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It's usually hydrostatic pulmonary
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edema, congestive heart failure.
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But if they don't respond to diuretics or if it's
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asymmetric or you think there's some perilymphatic
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nodularity, you gotta be suspect for another etiology.
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Okay.
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Thank you so much for listening.
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